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DiD Round 4 Talks; competition chat
Topic Started: Dec 29 2016, 12:50 PM (1,206 Views)
Areial
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Rick I rolled the eye's...but really not cause...guy's will be guy's... You could always just us a "masking" armor LoL...naked as a Jay-Bird and the armor rating of a Abram's tank....

Neil... I think for the 1st round using mod's it should be just a +/- that doesn't really effect scores, just let's us all know where someones mod order stand's against others.... we can make the round more of a "fun" thing than completely serious if that suite's also.. which I think is for the best at first.

but I'm all for a "draw the skill's" and see how far we all get... just have to come up with the "premise" of the game. I'm not sure TG would work without Pickpocket and sneak.. cause the radiant quest's pretty much rely on those...unless we make those and speech "freebies" and draw.... 4 or 5 more skills..
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Trace,
There would be no call to get pissy about me saying I am "playing wimpy" at Adept....because my set up is different yours and with how I build her, Adept IS a wimpy setting...we would just slaughter everything in seconds.

That does not mean that I think the same is true of your unsmithed builds.
You would not have AR 600+ or weapons of 300+ damage would you.
But I am sure we have been down that road before.

The crafting goes hand in hand with the Legendary setting....and together they are nicely balanced. I would not play on legendary uncrafted it would be suicide and I wouldn't play on Adept with full crafting...it would be a boring cake walk.

And before anyone says it....no...unsmithed/crafted Adept play is not exactly the same as fully crafted Legendary play....there are differences and subtleties, but both balance well....

One of the reasons I like a fully crafted build is the various opportunities for the changes I choose to implement....more variety of build choice...all the enchantments to choose for the armour etc and where to use them.

By crafting everything for Legendary play, I get the most choice about exactly how the build is constructed.

So, no hon, the 'wimpy Adept' comment is not a blanket claim that all adept play is wimpy....and certainly not aimed at you :hugs:
Edited by Rick, Dec 30 2016, 06:03 AM.
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Areial
Dec 29 2016, 10:04 PM
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Dec 29 2016, 08:47 PM
could we use the Sorting Hat
Sure thing. ...
Yes, please! :D
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Rick, I know it wasn't directed at me directly, only reason I don't really get hot under the collar... I thought about it... and I know that the AR's that you use would be so over powered it's not funny...at Adept or Expert.. might as well just us God Mode.

Blanket statement's ya know...



Kane... drawing skills is fine with me, Still Thief or something else that would be more suited to a build that we don't know yet? Or Speech, Lockpick and Sneak freebies, with 4 or 5 other drawn skills?
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Exactly my point Trace.

Legendary requires crafting....Adept would he ruined by it....we have no discord.

However, I should also point out that.....and quite beyond my understanding....some folk are in it only for the exploring and interactions. They do not want challenge and would be quite content well armoured up on Novice level. Slaying only things in their path which annoyed them. Thats an entirely different emphasis which does not include adrenalin.

However, that would provide no satisfaction for me....and probably be detrimental to Adella as a persona. She is literally Battleborn....evolved initially as Ulda, from those strong fight or flight emotions.....if I stopped combatative play or made it very easy....would she eventually fade? I do not know, but I wouldn't want to risk it.

On topic....thats a yes from me also, for random drawn skills....its exciting not knowing what you will have to work with.

Edited by Rick, Dec 30 2016, 12:02 PM.
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Ok...so we have, draw the skills...now we need the "and" part....

T.G. with sneak, lock pick and speech "freebies" or something else? I say those as freebies cause you need them for the quest line... but with another direction we wouldn't necessarily need those as freebies.
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Thieves Guild works for me! Sneak, lockpicking, and speech should be fine as the "freebies".
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TG is good for us....until we hit Irkingthand....then we die....and everytime that happens, our intense hatred of Falmer just gets a little bit stronger.

"I say take off and nuke the site from orbit...only way to be sure"
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Hick's...Aliens... and Damn if he didn't have kissable lips...

Why die? with a high enough sneak...you can sneak right by them ( carefully of course)... Ick and Bick usually have to fight, but if you stay far enough away from those two...

2 times through TG... 2 kills on the 1st, 1 kills on the second... IN the TG guest line... can't help it if bandit's like to commit suicide...

Actually... that's a good idea... No murders... Killing yes, murder no.. point's off for bounties... So Life time bounty 40...-40 points... lifetime bounty 1,000...-1,000... sound good?

Posted on Beth:

So with no objection's so far, this is what we have.

Thieve's Guild round:
- Skills to be drawn randomly
* Speech, Lock-picking, pick-pocketing & sneak are "freebies"
- the rest to be drawn randomly 4 or 5 skills

Still up for discussion
- time frame
- points for???
- Penalties for???
- run dates


My suggestions:
- start the 7th of Jan...to the 21st ( yes I know that's when Sah and Rick have their show down)
- 40 hrs
- points for... TG quest's & radiant quests
- Penalties for murders and "life time" bounties ( penalty for bounty equal to bounty)
- points for key's pick-pocketed..thing's like Nazeem's Key..must have them IN inventory when scoring is done and have a picture is asked.

Edit: Cause as Sah pointed out.. you need pick-pocketing... for some of the radiant quests.
Edited by Areial, Dec 30 2016, 06:23 PM.
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HAPPY NEW YEAR
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Edited by Sah, Dec 31 2016, 05:09 AM.
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Sah always gets her's first....chuckles

Happy New Year Honey :hugs:
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Happy New Year Sah
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I don't think I could do difficulty mods. I tried legendary with no crafting and really hated pincushion mobs. I don't get hit with sneaky types but I'm not a fan of reduced player damage, and that's essentially what beefed up mobs/HP does.

I'm looking at a mod that removes the player damage reduction but increases mob damage dealt modifier, so that might be an idea. I prefer to play without forced crafting.
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TG Sounds fun but I'm not sure if I can participate in time.

The move will have me out a week minimum. If I have to wait on an electrician it might be later.
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Dec 30 2016, 03:43 PM
Hick's...Aliens... and Damn if he didn't have kissable lips...

Why die? with a high enough sneak...you can sneak right by them ( carefully of course)... Ick and Bick usually have to fight, but if you stay far enough away from those two...

2 times through TG... 2 kills on the 1st, 1 kills on the second... IN the TG guest line... can't help it if bandit's like to commit suicide...

Actually... that's a good idea... No murders... Killing yes, murder no.. point's off for bounties... So Life time bounty 40...-40 points... lifetime bounty 1,000...-1,000... sound good?

Posted on Beth:

So with no objection's so far, this is what we have.

Thieve's Guild round:
- Skills to be drawn randomly
* Speech, Lock-picking, pick-pocketing & sneak are "freebies"
- the rest to be drawn randomly 4 or 5 skills

Still up for discussion
- time frame
- points for???
- Penalties for???
- run dates


My suggestions:
- start the 7th of Jan...to the 21st ( yes I know that's when Sah and Rick have their show down)
- 40 hrs
- points for... TG quest's & radiant quests
- Penalties for murders and "life time" bounties ( penalty for bounty equal to bounty)
- points for key's pick-pocketed..thing's like Nazeem's Key..must have them IN inventory when scoring is done and have a picture is asked.

Edit: Cause as Sah pointed out.. you need pick-pocketing... for some of the radiant quests.


That all sounds good to me! I'm kinda wondering though about pickpocketing and the bounty penalty. At earlier skill levels, you're bound to be caught so I would think any reward points for keys would have to be high enough to compensate for bounty incurred.

Sakiri
Dec 31 2016, 01:24 PM
I don't think I could do difficulty mods. I tried legendary with no crafting and really hated pincushion mobs. I don't get hit with sneaky types but I'm not a fan of reduced player damage, and that's essentially what beefed up mobs/HP does.

I'm looking at a mod that removes the player damage reduction but increases mob damage dealt modifier, so that might be an idea. I prefer to play without forced crafting.


I'm not a fan of "pin-cushion" enemies either. For me the perfect game (particularly for a stealthy character) is unaltered player damage and triple damage from opponents combined with a better enemy AI. A combination of Deadly Dragons, Enemies Enhanced, and ASIS (with appropriate settings) are perfect in my view. Too bad they aren't available for SSE yet... ;)
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@Neil... your right their, I'll think on what appropriate points are for keys...suggestions are always welcome!


I like my game balanced. ...
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well this is a fine new years day :grump: ........just deleted all my videos of Skyrim Forums
Edited by Sah, Jan 1 2017, 05:24 AM.
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Umm Why?
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What happened Sah?

And Neil, I can't do deadly dragons. As it is I'm so fragile that without a city of guards I run until I can sneak shot them at a wall.... and not seen.
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What happened Sah?

And Neil, I can't do deadly dragons. As it is I'm so fragile that without a city of guards I run until I can sneak shot them at a wall.... and not seen.
:hugs: Sakiri happy new years

will not stay on the same site with her (moderator) .........will not go back as long as she is there, wont stand for double standards, this was the last straw, getting a BIG lecture of how wrong it was to post a Christmas thread on the general section because it was NOT skyrim related, but it was OK that this one did post the Christmas tread for the last 2 years (only to have it moved to some dark corner of the forums where no one can see it) only to have a New years thread by other members allowed a few days later
3 months now this one was staying out of her feet ......that she says its not personal and that she is just doing her job when it took her over a month to approve my videos so they would not be visible on the general page with the excuse that she has to watch them & did not have the time, .............no no this one dose not like her at all

Edited by Sah, Jan 1 2017, 05:20 PM.
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