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(Skyrim) Thief round (4); Ooh, free jewels!
Topic Started: Jan 5 2017, 05:46 PM (1,354 Views)
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Ha! Italo brothers! I always liked that track.....I would never have thought of it for a video backing track. Impressive stats there honey....and fast :)
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Nice vid there Sah. Good progress! :)
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Kane
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This round has been good fun so far. I really enjoy the randomly drawn skills, as it makes me go outside of comfort zone and try new things. :D
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Two oddities occurring here. First, I was going to pick a really nice necklace out of an unsuspecting pocket. I had only my natural ability, and the 15% granted by TG boots. The base chance of success at that point was 28%.

I didn't like the odds much, so I drank a potion of pickpocketing which claims to add 20% chance, and I also donned a pair of "Bracers of deft hands" that add another 15%.

I then went to pick the pocket, and noticed my chance of success was now down to 23%. WTF? Just for the hell of it, I took off the bracers, and the odds of success went up to 25%, the potion wore off, and the chance rose to 27%. I took off the TG boots, and the chance of success was now back to 28%. Figure that one out if you can, eh? :)

Seeking high power illusion spells, Tanita went to Winerhold. On arriving in town, she was faced by a young man who greeted her with "You call yourself a mage? I challenge you to a duel!" Hmmm... She tried to tell him she was not a mage, and merely a colector of owned objects, but he wouldn't listen and insisted on casting lightning bolts at her throughout the conversation.

Eventually, she ducked into the Inn, where she elected to spend the night. If she had to fight that fool, she just didn't want to do it in the damned dark. Bright and early the next morning, she stepped out into the street looking for the challenger... He was nowhere to be found, but it seemed a vampire had taken his place.

The guards and her flame atronach made short work of the vampire and his thrall, so with a sigh she stepped into Birna's shop to sell off some things she'd picked up.

On leaving Birna's, she was greeted at the door by a wolf and an Ice Wolf. With a little effort, the canine villains were dispatched, and she tried to enter the college to buy some spells. It seems she had to pass a test, and of course the test involved buying a spell from Faralda and casting it on her. The spell was "Healing Hands". Fortunately, it didn't drive her up a level, but it felt frustrating anyway.

Thinking it over, it certainly feels like the drawn skills somehow favored playing a mage more than a thief... Tanita has no intention of pursuing anything but spells at the College, but perhaps the challenger wasn't too far off with his accusation.

Strangerer and strangerer, said Tanita as she headed out of town with only one of the two spells she had wanted to buy.
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Kane
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Depends on how you approach the skills, especially with the swapping ability.

My goal with the skills given/exchanged is to remain undetected as much as possible. :)

I aim to do as much damage as possible with an unsmithed/unenchanted bow, and then slither off into the shadows. Occasionally I sprinkle in a frenzy spell. That method got me through Brinewater Grotto with only having to kill two bandits. :)
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My goals are more or less the same... I mean to tell you, I was shocked when the challenger showed up and called Tanita a mage! I'm like "WHAT?!? Are you nuts!?!"

In retrospect though, it's Tanita's use of muffle that has put her in the category of mage by raising her Illusion skill. That goes with the idea of remaining undetected. The thief perk "muffle" only reduces armor noise by 50%... and that really isn't great if you wear any armor at all (that of course explains why most of my stealth characters work in the nude).

Anyway, she usually uses her plain old Orcish bow, but sometimes opts for Bound Bow even though it totals out her magicka for quite a while. Either way the idea is the same... hit from range and split, 'cuz she has no melee capability that's worth anything.

Which brings us back to the skills and the predominance of magic. Three out of five useful drawn skills are mage skills, while out of the freebies, only Sneak is really useful in an assault and then really only if it can be perked.

The two spells Tanita went to the college for were Invisibility and Pacify or Frenzy. All she was able to get was Frenzy because her illusion is too low I guess.

Invisibility requires so much magicka early on that it is an "emergency only" last resort, but when you really need it, you REALLY need it... :)

Fury and Frenzy are fun, but mainly as amusing toys. IMO Muffle and Invisibility are the stealth work horses this time around since there are no melee skills available.

That's the very essence of hit and run, eh? :)

EDIT: Perhaps some of the difference in our POV is simply due to you playing on Adept, and me playing on Master... It's kinda funny though, mud crabs seem to be REALLY overpowered in this game. I watched a mud crab kill a Markarth City Guard a short time ago in a one-on-one confrontation.
Edited by neildarkstar, Jan 9 2017, 09:52 PM.
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Sah
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QUESTION

about the stones, there are 24 to collect
are there points for this? or getting the crown?

some stones you have to become a member of other factions & do other quest lines ........any penalty's for this?
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Sah
Jan 9 2017, 10:46 PM
some stones you have to become a member of other factions & do other quest lines ........any penalty's for this?
I thought about that, too. You really only have to join the DB and stop at the Sanctuary. It'd available to take as soon as you have access.

The other hurdle is Proudspire Manor. Have to do the Potema quests an drop 25,000 Seppies on it.
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neildarkstar
Jan 9 2017, 09:47 PM
EDIT: Perhaps some of the difference in our POV is simply due to you playing on Adept, and me playing on Master... It's kinda funny though, mud crabs seem to be REALLY overpowered in this game. I watched a mud crab kill a Markarth City Guard a short time ago in a one-on-one confrontation.
Hmmm, I did overlook that part. If I play my cards perfectly, I can drop a Bandit Thug in two hits. I don't see that happening on Master.
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We did not discuss extra points for those, but if everyone is agreeable. ..then 100 pts per stone? 1000 for crown?

No penalty for doing other factions, but no points either.

Neil, Grimoire has a low lvl Chameleon spell, same as Oblivion. ..lol....but assassin's and thieves will use it also, with ASIS....fun..fun...
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Jan 10 2017, 12:00 AM
We did not discuss extra points for those, but if everyone is agreeable. ..then 100 pts per stone? 1000 for crown?

No penalty for doing other factions, but no points either.

Neil, Grimoire has a low lvl Chameleon spell, same as Oblivion. ..lol....but assassin's and thieves will use it also, with ASIS....fun..fun...
is all up for it, it is a Thives quest after all .......getting the crown is another issue

anyways every one has collected some

thanks Areial
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Sah
Jan 10 2017, 12:07 AM
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Jan 10 2017, 12:00 AM
We did not discuss extra points for those, but if everyone is agreeable. ..then 100 pts per stone? 1000 for crown?

No penalty for doing other factions, but no points either.

Neil, Grimoire has a low lvl Chameleon spell, same as Oblivion. ..lol....but assassin's and thieves will use it also, with ASIS....fun..fun...
is all up for it, it is a Thives quest after all .......getting the crown is another issue

anyways every one has collected some

thanks Areial
true...
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This is Tanita's final update. She met her end at the hands of an orc who one-shotted her from behind with a double-bladed steel axe.

Personally, I think she died as a result of "Vivid Weathers". She was in Brinewater Grotto, had lost track of Gulum-Ei in the dark. Even with Night-Eye, she couldn't see a damned thing.

Anyway, she had to have passed the orc in the dark without ever seeing him.

Tanita
Level: 20
Race: Khajiit
Hours Played: 28 hours
Days Played: 3
Skyrim Days: 34
Difficulty: Master
Times Killed: 0
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SKILL TREES
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Score:
8 TG main quests times 100 = 800
15 radiant TG quests times 100 = 1500
18 keys pickpocketed times 25 = 450
Unusual Gems (Stones of Berenziah) = 5 x 100 = 500
Total 3250 times Master multiplier 50 = 162,500
162,500 - lifetime bounty 117 = 162,383

Grand total 162,883



Good luck to other contenders... :)
Edited by neildarkstar, Jan 10 2017, 11:11 AM.
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Jan 10 2017, 07:33 AM
This is Tanita's final update. She met her end at the hands of an orc who one-shotted her from behind with a double-bladed steel axe.

Personally, I think she died as a result of "Vivid Weathers". She was in Brinewater Grotto, had lost track of Gulum-Ei in the dark. Even with Night-Eye, she couldn't see a damned thing.

Anyway, she had to have passed the orc in the dark without ever seeing him.

Tanita
Level: 20
Race: Khajiit
Hours Played: 28 hours
Days Played: 3
Skyrim Days: 34
Difficulty: Master
Times Killed: 0
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SKILL TREES
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Thieves Guild General
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Score:
8 TG main quests times 100 = 800
15 radiant TG quests times 100 = 1500
18 keys pickpocketed times 25 = 450
Total 2750 times Master multiplier 50 = 137,000
Grand total (sort of) 137,000

Eh, she has some Stones (5 Unusual Gems) but not figured into this total.

A question. I'm sure I read about a penalty based on lifetime bounty, but when I went looking for it, I couldn't find it in the rules section of the thread.

There are two things I need to know (assuming such a penalty exists).

First, the value of the penalty
Second, when is the penalty applied... before or after the multiplier?
ohhh Sr Neil you have only 12 hours left .........use them wisely
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Oh bad luck Neil. Brinewater grotto has taken us down more than once.

The pitch dark.....well.....you must get rid of it. I mean even for realisms sake. Would anyone venture into a foe filled cave practically blind? No! It just would not make sense.

For gods sake...even the bandits wouldn't be wandering about if they could not see a hand in front of their faces. Of course...in computer land..the npcs can see and see you....in very very dark conditions which is frankly nonsense.
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The Bounty Penalty is equal to your lifetime bounty and effect's after the multiplier. The other penalty is for using skills not drawn or "free" and is:

250 for each point that accrue's for the 1st 10 after that, then -500 accruing for each point their after.
(ex: Alteration if it starts at 20 for your character)
21= 0
22= 0
23= -250 points
24= -250 + -250 = -500 points
32= -500 points plus those accrued already
33= -500 + -500 plus accrued points

and is also after the Multiplier.

I'll try and get a short update a little later, I have not actually played since the other day.

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Jan 10 2017, 08:31 AM
ohhh Sr Neil you have only 12 hours left .........use them wisely


Even before the orc altered my plans, I knew that the time I had remaining would not be enough, which is what forced me to go into Brinewater without the invisibility spell I wanted so badly. I just couldn't afford to wait until I'd built Illusion enough.

As to using my time wisely... I think I'll drink a little brandy, play a little FO4, and watch from the sidelines. :)

Rick
Jan 10 2017, 09:14 AM
Oh bad luck Neil. Brinewater grotto has taken us down more than once.

The pitch dark.....well.....you must get rid of it. I mean even for realisms sake. Would anyone venture into a foe filled cave practically blind? No! It just would not make sense.

For gods sake...even the bandits wouldn't be wandering about if they could not see a hand in front of their faces. Of course...in computer land..the npcs can see and see you....in very very dark conditions which is frankly nonsense.


Yep, that mod is going to have to go...

Areial
Jan 10 2017, 10:35 AM
The Bounty Penalty is equal to your lifetime bounty and effect's after the multiplier. The other penalty is for using skills not drawn or "free" and is:

250 for each point that accrue's for the 1st 10 after that, then -500 accruing for each point their after.
(ex: Alteration if it starts at 20 for your character)
21= 0
22= 0
23= -250 points
24= -250 + -250 = -500 points
32= -500 points plus those accrued already
33= -500 + -500 plus accrued points

and is also after the Multiplier.

I'll try and get a short update a little later, I have not actually played since the other day.


Okay, I'll update the update. Thanks!
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R.I.P. Tanita. :(
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:'( R,I,P, Tanita it is a pretty challenging round...
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Indeed. I've had to run away from foes many a time, even on Adept. I can't imagine it on Master.
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