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Round V: The Hero of Skyrim; A Dead is Dead Competition
Topic Started: Feb 3 2017, 09:00 AM (2,805 Views)
glargg
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I can see that Ella Menthri's biggest challenge is going to be raising the money to buy the properties. She doesn't have Smithing or Enchanting, so she'll have to rely on selling high-value potions and loot.
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Kane
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Providing you don't spend money on trainers, Septims seem to pile up pretty quickly. In the thief round, I think I still had north of 30k even after buying Proudspire.
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On higher difficulties buying training is almost mandatory.

I got rekt by those 2h bandits(one was a chief) even with the training.
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You know that's one of the thing's I rarely do.. buy training.. it lvl's you up...meaning the reason that you got the training for is almost moot.. unless it's for a skill that was lagging behind.

Ie one of the two thing's I have bought training ( non-mage) for is Archery and Armor... reason, I may not be using as much archery... so it doesn't lvl up... for armor it's even simpler.. to raise armor you have to get hit.. getting hit tend's to get you dead.. soo My characters try to not get hit!

Somewhere down the road A'Riya will be going to visit Angie...so that she can get her archery up to where her 2h is.. ...or well not that high, cause 2h lvl's fast. I'll probably end up with 100 before I even get a 4th perk into it. it's already in the 40's with under 7 hrs played.

Well bounties might mean stealth + archery... getting the archery up... or need to for dragons anyway... finding some better arrows, but not enough to get rid of the iron and steel.
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Problem is that Ella is a mage, so even excluding paid Training, there's the cost of spell tomes. She has four mage skills, so that's four sets of new incremental spells every time she advances to the next perk level (Apprentice, Adept, etc.)

I probably should have taken my own advice, and used Enchanting as an unperked Freebie rather than Lockpicking.

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Too many good loots in chests, though. Walking away from that locked chest could be walking away from a new spell tome!
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glargg
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It all works out in the long run. Except when it doesn't. ;)
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True that!
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I found my mages always having to train destruction. It levels SO SLOWLY.
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Best early leveling for destruction is Fire Rune especially on lower level mobs. Just need to plan to have enough magicka or cost reduction to cast it more than once.
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Caste. ..rune..then cloak, then your favorite ranged, v when they get close, dual flame, frost or shock.

Til you get enough of a pool ... rune... ( cloak when you can) a staff of..*ranged... then rune, staff of *close up..

I seriously like the cloak spells. ..cloak plus mage armor... and 1h weapon, other hand a staff...

Staffs are always a good thing for low lvl mages.
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Brambleberry
Feb 5 2017, 11:08 AM
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I'm just going to have to give up. My game is so glitchy it's just not playable... and I'm at the end of my rope with it! I guess I'll try getting rid of all mods completely, and starting over again and see what happens,,,

Good luck everybody, I'll be watching, eh? :)
Neil sorry to hear that and hope you get it resolved. Part of this competition is about the mods we're using. If you figure out a culprit or culprits, a specific load order that works please share in your wrap up as a way to help others if they use those mods as well in the future!

Best of luck!

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I've found at least part of the problem I was having. I hadn't explained it in detail, but the essence was two or three-fold. first, I was having an issue similar to what Areial is describing... Phantom opponents who couldn't be hit, and apparently had no or somehow warped collision.

The second issue was in itself two-fold. I could not go into first person view, nor could I alter the camera distance from the character that she was being viewed. Zoom distance would change with no apparent rhyme or reason, one minute being so far away the char looked miniature like a Baldur's Gate character, the next minute filling the screen with a close-up view that only had room for shoulders and head, I could go into animcam and move the camera normally (normally for animcam) or I could use TFC and move the camera around. The second I returned to normal view from either TFC or animcam, the view went back to whatever it had been originally.

So... I've found part of the problem and cured that portion. It was FNIS.esp or FNIS Spells.esp that caused the issue (and yes I had run FNIS previously. Multiple times in fact).

I removed those two esps and the zoom/first/third person issues were all instantly cured. At least now the game is playable. :)
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Doesn't FNIS require a re-patch any time you mess with load order? Seems something like that - which is why I've never bothered with it.

I won't even mess with a bashed patch. SO not my thing....
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Not necessarily a re-patch, but you do have to run Finis again... if you muck with, add, remove or change mods... Same with Wyre bash and Dual Shealth Redux..

If I think I need to run LOOT, then I run Wyre Bash.. and DSR...Then FINIS..

So yeah.. new to me mod... run... TESEditV, LOOT, FINIS, DSR, then Wyre Bash.. Is all that necessary? Probably not.. but I can generally narrow down anything wrong to something I did... like use two mod's that aren't really all that compatible.. mostly I know it, but sometimes, they are surprising.
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Ella is Level 10, time of 10:23. She has done the White Phial and Blood on the Ice, joined the CoW, and has received a letter from the Jarl of Falkreath. She has also been invited to join the Dawnguard, and declined. She's at Whiterun, trying to decide whether to return the dragonstone now, or to go on to Falkreath first, and see what that Jarl wants.

Alchemy 25
Illusion 30
Conjuration 22
Destruction 41
Alteration 26
Lockpicking 21
Speech 24
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Yes you need to regenerate behaviors every time you add or change a FNIS mod.

Anything that uses FNIS, if you change it, it needs rerun. I rerun it after sorting load order but if I'm just testing around and disabling texture mods I don't until I finalize and sort load order.
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yeah, but it screwed up... I HAD run it and regenerated FNIS behaviors. I even tried it one more time before I deactivated it. It just didn't work, I don't know why.
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Hmmm FINIS didn't give a message saying what was wrong? Doubled checked to see if any of the dependent mod's were missing?

IDK, I have had more issues with DSR.. cause something was missing or out of order..
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Starting to wonder if Neil shouldn't just start over from scratch... :(
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That is generally what I do unless I know exactly what the problem is... with Kurdan I knew that Invasion of Skyrim was my issue with his mod set...but I didn't have the data to delete and then re-download a better version of it..

of course it suck's when you are mid-way through a play through... but been their done that a few times, usually not a character I am writing about though..
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