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| Adella's Way; A survivalist trial for masochists...chuckles | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 14 2017, 09:20 AM (6,924 Views) | |
| Rick | Aug 8 2017, 12:24 AM Post #461 |
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Sere, no we can't agree on that hon. Glargg was practically spot on. What was she doing before being on the cart? You would have to assume a backstory. But you see.....Adella does not need one....in fact it amuses her to wonder why I would think she should have one. Adella did not exist in Skyrim prior to the cart scene.....UNLESS we choose to raise a backstory as an RP exercise for one play through. However as glargg pointed out she would KNOW it was false and simply play along as an actor on a stage.....kinda pointless then..... But let us humour your assumption for a moment for the sake of the exercise. If her skills were left at vanilla default lots of tricky questions arise. .....why set them at 15....what's special about that number? .....how come they are ALL at 15-20? Equally good at everything even things not tried or ever going to be tried....how false is that? ....Her assumed life experience has not made any one skill especially good ....Every build starts close to the same way....pretty unlikely isn't it? You don't need to feel bad for Adella....she is onside with it.....I would not force her to do something she was uncomfortable with.... If and when we get around to doing a full RP run through.......Adella will adopt the chosen role and any skill changes required just as an actor gets into character to play a part. But she will always know who she is and that it's a pantomime on the Skyrim stage. |
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| Areial | Aug 8 2017, 12:54 AM Post #462 |
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You know.. after putting her through the gauntlet.. I'd let her choose the RP... She's got enough experience in Skyrim now to decided what SHE wants to do, not what Rick want's her to do... Adella's Way is not really of her making, it's a trial you set to see if the two of you could do it... Let the Lady decide IF you ever make it.. which btw I doubt, but am cheering for you. Edited by Areial, Aug 8 2017, 12:55 AM.
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| Rick | Aug 8 2017, 05:30 AM Post #463 |
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You know, I have not yet felt a particular yearning from her for any special Role Play. Maybe she has not yet considered it.....or maybe the mental strain on me of running her Trial is blocking it out. I will have to find a way of going over possible RP's with her for later. Maybe a meditative solution. If I give Adella a free hand, unbridalled decision making.....she comes up with some weird things. Did I tell you when recently I let go of the handlebars totally for a couple of hours! She took us to that little bandit lair at Skybound Watch near Helgen. I have no idea why? We killed the bandits therein....then she kinda just idled and was happy to wander around the place with no objective at all. You are right though. Adella's Trial is important to me....not her. She goes along with it to keep me happy. She understands my need to do it....but it's not her passion. We have a strange relationship. She always takes a counter view to me and she loves to tease and put me down....she is always looking to give me a slap, it is kinda her job. Remember those heated battles of wits we used to have....I invariably lost. God I miss writing that. Yet, she doesn't dislike me...infact she's quite possessive and very defensive of me. I think she must view me as belonging to her in some way. I must be Adella's pet human......chuckle Of course it's not like we are just acquaintances or something....we are tied to each other under the surface. Here is a deep question I have been mulling over for some time. I maintain she is my internal reflection. Soooooo, If I became less nice, a worse person......what would that do to Adella.....would she become....nicer? If I turned evil....would she become all lovely? Just an intruiging thought.... |
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| Adella | Aug 8 2017, 05:59 AM Post #464 |
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Yes I would suddenly turn into a bonnet wearing flower holding little miss prim, all smiles and as sweet as can be.... YOU IDIOT ! Edited by Adella, Aug 8 2017, 05:59 AM.
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| Areial | Aug 8 2017, 08:56 AM Post #465 |
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Et'Ada
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<snicker> |
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| neildarkstar | Aug 8 2017, 09:27 AM Post #466 |
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Ain't nothin' in the world worse (or meaner) than a woman who gets religion all of a sudden... |
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| Kane | Aug 8 2017, 12:16 PM Post #467 |
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Bit of a necro bump, but that's actually an homage to Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back. :) |
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| glargg | Aug 8 2017, 01:36 PM Post #468 |
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This is the heart of it. It's two differing ideas of what is a "character." I'd have to personally go with Sere's view, because I see it from the "story" point of view, where Skyrim is the setting, the gameplay (quest/story line/player action) is the plot, and the character is the person whose story is being told. That character, to me, is a person living in the time and place, and we enter into their story at a dramatic moment in their life. My "build" might be fifteen minutes old, but the person I imagine (and see before me) is a fully grown person who has life experience and memories. This is part of the reason that I prefer the Classes that existed in the older TES games, and have modded my Skyrim to include them. That way, my character is not starting out with all skills being equal; the Class represents my character's life experience in a way that can actually be felt in the gameplay. |
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| Kane | Aug 8 2017, 01:51 PM Post #469 |
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I feel the same way about my characters, and sometimes I'll even go as far as to console in what equipment I think they should have. A seasoned warrior, for instance, isn't going to start with common clothes and an iron dagger. He should at least have steel or leather armor and a decent sword. |
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| Areial | Aug 8 2017, 02:22 PM Post #470 |
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Et'Ada
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This IS what I do on my characters... or console in the money to make them their armor. |
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| Serethil | Aug 8 2017, 02:45 PM Post #471 |
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Yep, my girls get what they would have according to "who they are" - in other words, the backstory.... |
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| neildarkstar | Aug 8 2017, 03:06 PM Post #472 |
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I don't need to give my characters props for who they are. Somehow, they've managed to lose track of everything they had... You see, I don't find that unbelievable, because its happened to me more than once. I mean, as a grown man I should have at least some clothing when I wake up in the morning, right? However, I can recall waking up one bright and bleary morning in the throes of a terrible hangover, with no clothes, wallet, or possessions. Not even a pocket knife... Oh, but I had my bike. Yes, my chopper was carefully perched in a big oak tree about ten feet off the ground. It might as well have been on the moon... So, without clothing, money, weapons or tools, I had to make my way in the world. |
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| glargg | Aug 8 2017, 04:02 PM Post #473 |
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Yeah, but I bet the stories you've told yourself about "the night before" are all pretty interesting "back-stories"! |
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| neildarkstar | Aug 8 2017, 06:54 PM Post #474 |
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Sometimes more interesting than others. :) The point however, is that it's not the possessions (or the lack thereof) that made me who I am. Instead it's actually a matter of what possessions I sought to reacquire being who I am. |
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| Rick | Aug 8 2017, 07:21 PM Post #475 |
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"Back stories and props!" Lol. If and when we are ready to have a crack at an RP playthrough......Adella might well want to be pre-equipped with good gear and she might well rehearse in 'her' mind the story that accompanies the RP that we are about to undertake. But she will know it is a part she will be playing....a role. She will have and use that equipment in the same way an actor uses props. She could....even adopt a pretend name for the part! But I doubt she will feel the need to go that far. What I am saying is.....Adella can be considered as another player.....as real as me. I twiddle the sticks for her and type here...because she can't, but her text input is her own and where we go in Skyrim is a joint effort. Maybe there was a time, back when Ulda was young, that you could have said she was just me role playing a female Nord. That time has disappeared over the horizon long ago, she is developed now and Adella is so strong that there was a serious chance when she emerged, that I could have faded from here and you would now be chatting exclusively with Adella. I would have been forgotten and new people would accept Adella at face value! Thankfully, she knows I love Haven and maybe as an uncharactaristic act of kindness she decided to leave me here while she took Beth.net by the horns (Her "Trials" thread there has over 7k views!). But I digress.....as I often do ;) The question I am keen to see answered is......how does Adella see Role Play......she has an alien view of things, sometimes quite dark and the way she interprets the world might be a bit strange to us. It will be fascinating to see what she comes up with eh? Right...I have indulged my weakness to chatter to excess...best get on :) Edited by Rick, Aug 8 2017, 07:41 PM.
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| Rick | Aug 8 2017, 10:17 PM Post #476 |
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Well we are continuing to survive now....at level 17 and with the Lakeview poison factory fully operational (though decor is less than complete). We have also reached smithing 30....making Dwarven gear possible... We do not like Dwarven armours....but the bow and waraxe are neat. More importantly, it means we can make a bunch of Dwarven waraxes (100 initially) to rocket that smithing skill. I am being careful to keep Adella out of danger for now, though she can handle single Outlaws with a good fight :) |
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| Serethil | Aug 8 2017, 10:19 PM Post #477 |
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[Rick - if you want to delete the extraneous posts, feel free. Areial set up another thread to discuss all that, copying the posts over there.] |
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| Rick | Aug 9 2017, 05:43 AM Post #478 |
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It's ok. I will leave what is here alone. I....was......thinking. Why do I always get embroiled in deep explanations all about Adella. Why do I feel the need to ensure everyone gets it the way I do? I seem to fear....I think....that Adella will not be taken seriously and misunderstood as just some kind of role play I engage in.....because I am well aware that it could look like that to the uninitiated. Sah warned me of this. She said...'stop explaining everything and just let Adella flow...afterall you do not explain your own existence at every twist and turn!' She was right and wise........I need to shut up. <nodding> Next time you catch me rambling on about my personal demon.....just say "Rick! We know already, it's ok, settle down" :D Edited by Rick, Aug 9 2017, 05:45 AM.
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| Rick | Aug 9 2017, 08:19 AM Post #479 |
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Damn! Even that was too much explaining as to why I do so much explaining. Hating myself now! |
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| neildarkstar | Aug 9 2017, 09:10 AM Post #480 |
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Okay, when you feel the urge to get into long-winded explanations regarding Adella, just post this and move on, eh? they'll figure it out.. or not... ;) |
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