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| glargg | Jun 13 2017, 05:06 PM Post #141 |
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Yep, we're spoiling the game for, uh, us. ;) |
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| Serethil | Jun 13 2017, 06:52 PM Post #142 |
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I sometimes go get the chest at Anga's Mill, after dealing with Gallows Rock (for the treasure map) and Uttering Hills Cave. |
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| neildarkstar | Jun 13 2017, 11:00 PM Post #143 |
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Another shorty while fighting a Frost Troll... |
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| Serethil | Jun 13 2017, 11:08 PM Post #144 |
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Why do you shoot video in first person? That.... just annoys me. I NEVER use first person, and - well, it's just ANNOYING. |
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| neildarkstar | Jun 13 2017, 11:20 PM Post #145 |
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Well, it may be annoying, but in Al's case it's a matter of life and death. Her primary weapon is "lightning Bolt" but... in third person, it almost never goes where intended. She can't hit the broad side of a barn in third, and after a few misses the magicka is all gone. She has no weapons at all, except a dagger with a skill of 15 just for use with poisons of one sort or another. If you noticed in "Al is SO bad" when she was fighting the frost troll on the hillside in third, she kept hitting the rock at her feet. When the magicka was gone, she shouted simply because that was all she had left to use. if her position hadn't been secure, she wouldn't have survived the use of third person... I prefer third person myself, but if it's a choice between death and first, it's going to be in first, and that's just all there is to it. :) |
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| Serethil | Jun 13 2017, 11:33 PM Post #146 |
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I don't have any issue with third person stuff. Then again, I don't use spells. Ugh. Why would I? Magic is useless in this game..... It was fine in previous games. But not in Skyrim. In Skyrim, I use stealth archer exclusively. Because of course (with Nock2Tip) I can one-shot-kill from.... a.... VERY long way away. Works for me. Regardless, first-person videos are.... just ugly. And not really good viewing. Oh.... hmm. I haven't actually had any issue with "minor" spells in third person. I've on occasion used various spells - not lightning bolt 'cause I never have that - but the key is you target using the crosshair, and simply click-release. Don't mess with the auto-target. On a horse, using auto-target, I can kill whatever it is without doing anything other than click-release. It's - not maybe intuitive (except for someone like me, who just wants to kill it without faffing about....) Edited by Serethil, Jun 13 2017, 11:40 PM.
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| glargg | Jun 13 2017, 11:35 PM Post #147 |
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Same problem happens in third person with archery, while crouching and shooting down over a ledge. The arrows will hit the ledge's collision box every time. I solve that by going into first person for sniping. It probably doesn't matter much for normal play, but these things are desperately important in DiD. |
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| Serethil | Jun 13 2017, 11:42 PM Post #148 |
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I... guess....I automatically compensate. I haven't had that issue.... in.... years. |
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| neildarkstar | Jun 13 2017, 11:57 PM Post #149 |
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It's true that magic is seriously nerfed in Skyrim... except for Illusion of course. However, I would point out that Al uses nothing else, and is currently on the verge of level 30, has cleared Bthardamz, killed Orchendor, cleared Saarthal, cleared Fellglow Keep, cleared Mzulft, Cleared Ratballs, Taken out the Forgemaster, cleared Alftand, and is ready to enter Blackreach proper. Seems to me she must be doing SOMETHING right... and that magic must not be entirely useless. :) ...and of course I almost exclusively don't use mods that make life easier or make the character OP in any way. In fact, I usually go the other way, so mods that give a lot of one-shot kills just aren't going to happen. Mods that make foes tougher on the other hand, are the norm. EDIT: WAIT! What is "auto-target"? How do you use anything BUT the crosshair? Edited by neildarkstar, Jun 14 2017, 12:02 AM.
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| glargg | Jun 14 2017, 12:02 AM Post #150 |
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Even when one plays in first person, sniping over a ledge, if the game calculates a kill, and goes into the killcam, forcing third person, the arrow will hit the ledge and fail the kill, because changing viewpoints messes up the aim. The reason for all of this is that the game is bugged, and the aiming point in third person corresponds to the upright character height, instead of the crouched height, whereas the aiming point is correct in first person. Sere, I have no idea what you're talking about with "auto target." Is this a mod thing? If you're using a mod that changes archery targeting, we're not even talking about the same thing here. Edited by glargg, Jun 14 2017, 12:06 AM.
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| Serethil | Jun 14 2017, 12:06 AM Post #151 |
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Yeah, each to her own. I just want to explore, so whatever makes stuff die at range and faster works for me. I actually don't get making things harder. To me, that's not fun period. I just want to wander around and collect stuff. So killing mobs at long range makes tha easier for me. I do NOT think having to kill gazillions of mobs is fun. It's not. I'll never feel any different about that. The only reason I play this sort of game is because there are so many other ways to play.... including killing whatever from VERY long range. Mods. Gotta love mods. |
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| neildarkstar | Jun 14 2017, 12:06 AM Post #152 |
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Even when NOT in kill cam, if you go to set loose a spell, your character will change position in third. Again in "Al's SO bad" you can see when she's try8ing to target the troll, she actually bends down at the last second sending the lightning bolt into the ground at her feet. Sere: :D We're complete oppostites on that. Playing without danger is not fun fun at all, and simply boring. Sure, exploring is fun... but sooner or later you start finding that without enemies everything is more or less the same. It's a cave. There's some loot, or a chest.. view is nice. Again. It's a dwemer ruin, lots of dwemer loot, traps that don't matter, the occasional puzzle, but more of the same. It's interaction that makes it fun for me. Edited by neildarkstar, Jun 14 2017, 12:10 AM.
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| Serethil | Jun 14 2017, 12:10 AM Post #153 |
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Uh. Auto-target.... You have your bow out, you simply make sure the mob is showing as red and click once. The AI auto-targets. The arrow hits whatever is targeted. It doesn't always work - if you're above or below on horseback, it's not always optimal. But for the most part, it works just fine. I have maybe a 5% fail rate. That's acceptable. |
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| Serethil | Jun 14 2017, 12:12 AM Post #154 |
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neil - I don't play games for "thrills". I play them to get lost in them. That does NOT include getting dead in them. Nope. Not going there. I don't DO kill cams. Stupidest thing any dev ever invented. Edited by Serethil, Jun 14 2017, 12:13 AM.
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| neildarkstar | Jun 14 2017, 12:13 AM Post #155 |
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In Skyrim, I've never had "red" opponents... ever outside of when using "Aura whisper" or "Detect Life". In Fallout I've used VATS of course, but I have no clue what you are talking about in Skyrim.
Edited by neildarkstar, Jun 14 2017, 12:14 AM.
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| glargg | Jun 14 2017, 12:14 AM Post #156 |
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And this is a competition-related thread, with Neil playing as he must play to survive. That mod, with an auto-target, would be an unfair advantage in our game, and would have to be offset by something else that makes the game harder. |
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| Serethil | Jun 14 2017, 12:16 AM Post #157 |
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Okay, backing up here. First, auto target is a not mod thing. It's vanilla. Second, "red" targets are also vanilla. Your HUD shows targets as red dots. |
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| neildarkstar | Jun 14 2017, 12:20 AM Post #158 |
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Sure, red dots in the HUD... but I've no idea how you would use them for "auto targeting". All I've ever done with them is note which direction that damned wounded wolf ran off to. |
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| Serethil | Jun 14 2017, 12:23 AM Post #159 |
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Well..... the red dot is your auto target. You pull the bow and release the arrow - without aiming - and if the target is in range.... the arrow hits it. Mostly. |
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| glargg | Jun 14 2017, 12:25 AM Post #160 |
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Jarl
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Are we talking about the fact that the crosshairs somewhat compensate for arrow arc on a medium-range shot? That's sort of an "auto-aim," but it only works for mid-range shots. Long shots have to be aimed high, and with some windage, and short-range shots have to be aimed slightly low to be accurate (but then they hit the ground if you're crouching in third person.) |
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