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Competitor's Tales; competition-related short stories, tales, and would-be legends
Topic Started: May 28 2017, 05:01 PM (659 Views)
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Indeed, much closer. I'll need to think on that for a bit, though. I am terribly ill just now, and thinking (or concentrating) is difficult in the extreme. I'm afraid I couldn't trust any conclusion I might arrive at just now, but I promise I'll get back to you. :)
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Sure at your leisure....get well soon :)

Tentatively I ask....since you are not a follower of the Contessa's exploits....did you happen to read her biography extract in the spoiler tag? Her moment, where in 'story mode' she realises the truth of her existence.

IRL I purposely coincided the drama climax with the point that I felt she was really with me and not with Skyrim....inside.
I watched it all happening in my mind's eye...quite emotive for me.
Any thought on that? Did it make sense?
Just wondered :)
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I watch most of your videos, though I am not much for reading the written part. I should be more... diligent in my reading habits, I suppose. :)

Yes, I did read the excerpt you included in your post, and I understood probably a lot of it, though I've not actually formed an opinion that would be meaningful. Bear in mind I am far from at my best, and the whole of it seemed... chaotic as well as emotional. There are some points I'd love to delve into at a later time.

Did it make sense? Hmm... in my diminished capacity I'd have to say that it made sense from the standpoint of an outsider looking in at an event that I didn't feel was totally understood by either of the main participants. Meaning you and Adella, of course.

I'm quite certain that it's a difficult subject to deal with because you have your own consciousness to deal with as well as the... issue? ...of Adella's blooming self-awareness. To realize that one is a computer construct having only a borrowed existence based on the existence of another presents some interesting points to ponder from Adella's perspective, certainly.

To say that her "life" is an illusion, then one must wonder who is it that really experiences this illusion. In other words, who is the dream, and who is the dreamer, eh? ...and how then can the one being dreamed create a dream of her own?

I'm rambling, I suppose. Part of this lack of focus I'm talking about, so I'll leave it there for now.
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Jun 17 2017, 01:10 PM


What does that mean for a conventionally RP'd char in Skyrim?
I want to know what you mean by "conventionally roleplayed."

Do you think there's a single standard for what that means? "Roleplay" is a very broad term, and people have a lot of ideas about it. Probably as many ideas as there are roleplayers.

Consider something here. Neil's Al asks questions about missing or odd details in Skyrim. So does my character Nokandu. Other characters that we play don't do this; they have different relationships to things as "mundane" as drink labels or repetitious NPC greetings.

In fact, I'd say that all of my characters tend to develop their own unique ways of noticing (or not noticing) things in the environment.
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"conventially roleplayed" to me means you experience the world from the perspective of that character. Meaning if there is no reasonable way the character (let's say Al) could know something (source of the various libations) then she would not know. This is still seen through the eyes of you, the player, however and one can roleplay a way to fill in the details hitherto unknown. For example, Al could be sat in the Bannered Mare pondering the labels and resolve to ask Hulda about it. The appropriate roleplay procedure would be a vague, evasive answer or a direct one but either way YOU fill in the information in a way that doesn't involve Greybeard impressions.

The character's experience of food/drink is taken through the lens of your own experience or fantasy, and thus beer will taste good/bad depending on your experience or if "Al" is supposed to like beer. She could be tee total and drink only milk, all a decision made in relation to how her roleplay is set up initially.

Just my perspective on the subject, I shall return to skulking in my shadows now :)
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Sets out a roadrunner trap with Poncho's favorite food to entice the Poncho back out from the shadows. ;) :hugs:
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*Uses telekinesis spell to take food without being caught and slinks back into his cave* :ninja:

I've been busy of late due to work shifts all over the show....I have an 8am start tomorrow, monday booked off for things, then 2-4pm starts for a few days, long weekend followed by a 4:45am start (rinse, repeat for a few weeks)...I'm not great at early starts/early bedtimes as evidenced by my posting this at 11pm. :banana:
I have been checking in and keeping track of happenings most evenings though.
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"conventially roleplayed" to me means you experience the world from the perspective of that character.


is probably the best definition of roleplaying I've ever encountered as far as my own idea of roleplaying is concerned.

To me roleplaying is taking on the persona of the character and letting that persona direct you in choosing responses and actions as they pertain to everything from tasting a bottle of ale to choosing whether to fight or run when forced into combat situations.
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Yeah, pretty much what I meant by Conventionally Role played.

Conventionally RP chars often share some similar operating parameters, by player choice. Such as having a backstory and a code of conduct which the player decided they will abide by. They also mostly ignore (don't see) world events which are broken...glitches and the like, plus unrealistic operations such as standing by a bed while an arrow counts down the hours supposedly slept.
I do not mean all normal RP is done identically....of course it's not.

However, by contrast, an example of un- conventionally RP'd would be where the Char breaks the forth wall by talking back to the player about the world she sees around her.
Or where she attempts to make the player perform the actions that she wants to do....kinda tail wagging the dog. Adella is good at both ;)

That's about as far as I would define conventionsl vs unconventional.....and there will always be people who straddle both ways......such as discussing the game world with their char...but still only seeing what is supposed to happen.

This of course is my view of it.....others may see things differently....but the term RP is too encompassing to narrow down exactly what a char must conform to to be considered RP'd......we all do it a bit differently....and that is what makes reading others work so interesting.

Edit.....I have just Role Played getting eaten by a Revered Dragon....200 hours and four minutes down the pan.
I am gonna sulk for a bit.....pretty peed off.....but that's how we roll eh!
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Jun 17 2017, 11:16 PM

Edit.....I have just Role Played getting eaten by a Revered Dragon....200 hours and four minutes down the pan.
I am gonna sulk for a bit.....pretty peed off.....but that's how we roll eh!
Ouch. Those high-level dragons seem to have an appetite for Adella lately. :(

The good thing is that the two of you live on to roleplay another day.

What I was getting at with my question was that I'm uncertain that there is any such thing as "conventional" when it comes to roleplaying, since there seem to be as many variations as there are players. More, even, since some of us change styles when we change characters.

I think that there may be a dividing line between players who tell stories about their characters, and players who don't. I'm talking about stories that either elaborate on -- or go completely outside of -- the events and actions that are presented in the game.

It's a creative process, and it's quite mysterious. :)
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