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Oh the Games we Play; DiD Competitions, mini-games, Fun runs
Topic Started: Jul 30 2016, 10:57 PM (3,269 Views)
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Well, we can't shoot in town anyway.... This is a "modernized" one, so not quite like cap, ball, powder horn etc. Actually my .270 is louder than this CVA is.
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Credit to glargg for an idea for a future competition. Adept difficulty, only what you find in Helgen. Last (wo)man standing.
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Just go Naked Nord .... :hubba:
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Haha not quite that drastic. Anything you can find in the keep, but no crafting of any kind.
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Sere, Happy Birthday to hubby!! :D
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Yep...only the spells/ powers you come with plus that sparks from the cage. Only uncrafted weapons/shield and the basic longbow with iron arrows. You can use any weapon found in the Helgen underfort rooms. Upon exit any other IRON weapons/armours may be used.....e.g. Iron greatsword, iron warhammer.

No potion brewing, no smithing, no enchanting rises....so presumably no staff recharging.

Eating ingredients is fine for their minimal effect as is eating stews and other food stuffs.

Is that about it Glargg?

Just need to decide on the objectives. MQ is out...due to gaining shouts. CoW is out due to gaining spells early on (even to get in).

You know what's left quest wise.....unless we concoct something quite different to achieve.

Please not Dragon Priest masks...yet again!

We've done bandit genocide ( loved it :) ) what about draugr genocide? And all undead...its an easy stat to accumulate and read in the UI....um yeah...about those priest masks...useful buggers!

Falmer genocide....that'll get the round over pretty quick...vicious little b'stards.

Gods I'll miss my alchemy! And my Marked for Death and my AR1000 armour.

Well we got a few weeks to fiddle with it anyhow :)

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Richard
Aug 3 2016, 08:04 AM
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Aug 3 2016, 06:05 AM
I guess it depend's on how one plays, I'm not the hugest fan of "pure" mages, but I do on occasion play them. I have never gotten my cost to 0... but then I don't play a super tank on melee either.
I never get to that point either... Mainly because I play with Perkus Maximus/Skyrim Redone and they completely change the skill trees, among other things. And because I usually die around level 30/40...
I normally try to either play a pure mage or a spellsword (light armor, spell and sword/spell and spell/shield and spell/etc). Spellswords are incredibly fun and, if used correctly, overpowered.

Rick
Aug 3 2016, 06:43 AM
One......Destruction magic has to be played at low difficulty if you want it to actually do anything.

Two......passive or defensive spells have a foe level ceiling above which they do not function it seems , like maybe level 50 Death Overlords etc, (the enemy is too powerful to blah blah) but its exactly the top foes you NEED it to work upon.....crazy!

Three......How (as a mage) do you stop an UNEXPECTED, insta kill, ebony arrow from an ebony bow, drawn by a draugr Deathlord in a dark tomb passageway......(I don't want to be obvious, but there are plenty of them, and on DiD you only need one hit to end your run!

Thinking......I suppose you could.......and maybe this IS how its done......
One.....turn up the brightness until everything is fully visable
Two.....cast a summon far ahead every few steps.
Three.....rely on Detect dead and Aura Whisper to show where they are!

FWIW.....in Oblivion....my Altmer, Vulnavia, was always a powerful battle mage...did almost everything magically.....and only on Adept. Skyrim completely changed my entire outlook!

So......are we allowed to drink a (one) restoration potion before relying upon passive fortify apparals......thinking here, its not just alchemy you know....its also fortify one handed.....also fortify say resist fire enchantments, and others. Is drinking a potion to aid other effects a legit practice? Or not? Needs thinking about......I will raise this again if it gets overlooked....its quite significant.
One - Rick, destruction magic can be played on Master and Legendary, easily. If you know what you're doing, that is. Also, with (for example) Skyrim Redone, it's much harder to play on Master/Legendary. Enemies do more damage (Iron sword does 20+ damage, I believe) and armor protects better (the armor cap, with SkyRe, is 900) but there are still people who play as mages with SkyRe.

Two - The spells work on high level enemies, you just need to level the skill tree and put some perks in them (For example, illusion).

Three - We run around like our ass is on fire :teehee: We can also use the shouts, followers, summons, etc.

Rick, the mage fighting is much different then the warrior/rogue fight. Mages need to hide, cast their protective spells, cast a summon, etc. It's hard to do, at first but one gets used to it. Also, brightness all the way up? No thanks. I prefer my game as dark as it can be, while allowing me to actually see what's happening.

Rick, magic in Oblivion (for me, anyway) seemed a bit too underpowered. Now, on Skyrim, it's stupidly overpowered, even on master. If you know what you're doing, that is.

Hmm... If it's not for crafting... Then maybe? Dunno, we might have to make a poll and have everyone decide.
I just the video where he takes his storm mage through Mzulft (about number 24 or thereabouts) and frankly I'm not all that impressed. To start with he has two or perhaps three companions, and if that difficulty is actually Legendary, then it sure doesn't look like it.

I mean, he kills sphere by hitting it with what, four maybe five dual-cast lightning bolts? No way that sphere should fall that easily. Of course perks play a part, but the elemental damage is limited. You have the base lightning damage and two perks that increase that damage, but that's the top of what you can do without adding in potions that boost basic Destruction damage.

I just took Arilliana through Mzulft last night. As far as Dwemer and Falmer foes are concerned, she's pure mage... NO WAY is she going to try to melee with them. Anyway, she went through at level 30 on Master difficulty with NO companions... (I'm going along with the competition progressive difficulty because it seemed kinda cool :)) and while I'm not playing her as DiD, she didn't die doing it either.

To be fair, she used the Sanguine Rose a LOT, but her main power as a mage is to NOT engage in combat in the first place. So, Invisibility and Muffle play major roles, along with Fury for the Falmer. It would have been nice to have the illusion perk that allows automatons and undead to be effected by Illusion, but oh well...

Having said that, then I say this to Rick...

Playing a pure mage is not about how much damage destruction does, or having illusion effect every foe - it's about how well you manage to integrate whatever skills, spells, and abilities you have. Companions and summoned critters are nice, but they should NOT be necessary for survival.

As an example, that Death Overlord you mentioned. I'd never even dream of trying to use fury on a guy like that because of the possibility that it would fail. What I would do is use invisibility and muffle to get to a strategic point, then use a shout (perhaps MFD or Unrelenting force) to disrupt his attack followed by summons.

Ironbind Barrow is good example.

In the Main Chamber, I use invisibility immediately on entering, make my way past his skeleton archerss to the area by the throne where whasisname the boss overlord is wandering around. I wait for him to get in the right position, and blast him off the ledge with unrelenting force. I immediately cast a summon for the baddest critter I have down in the lower area with him, and turn my attention to his skeleton archers which I take out with destruction spells while the overlord is killing my summoned whatever.

Once I don't have to worry about the skeleton archers in the room, I can just keep summoning critters and using destruction to finish off the battle. That's the plan anyway. Doesn't always work out like that, but things don't always work out for the tank fighter either, eh? :)
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Edited by Brambleberry, Oct 16 2016, 12:12 PM.
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I forgot about "Thunderbolt" :) I rarely have a mage that acquires it. That also makes me wonder about the level and stats of the mage character in the video. I didn't see them mentioned, but it would be interesting to know how much magicka he has available.

Arilliana has no armor at all, but does have things like the "Mage Circlet" and other items that increase Magicka or magicka generation. Hers is about 440 with everything equipped. Anyway, she found a set of orc armor with a major restoration bonus, and an orcish helm with the same enchantment. The thing is that wearing that armor her AR comes out to about 105, but dressed in only her skin (with ironflesh) her AR is 200... and in the words of an FO4 armor vendor, "Pretty don't stop bullets!".
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Speaking of mage stuff.... oh, this isn't the place. I'll go make another topic....
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Sep 15 2016, 05:08 PM
Credit to glargg for an idea for a future competition. Adept difficulty, only what you find in Helgen. Last (wo)man standing.
Thane of all holds...extra points for guard uniforms & shields. .. NO killing them! IE you or your follower cant', but a dragon, wolf..bandit's etc can.

I had an idea for another round, but I'm not sure if we want to go their... here's the Idea anyway.

Hunter:
Legendary or Master ( everyone plays one or the other, vote)
Points for animal kill's
10 pt's for wolf ...50 for Ice wolf
50 for Bear....100 for Snowy bear
50 for Sabre cat...100 for snowy
1000 for Mammoth...
( and thing's in between)

and here's the catch! cause ya know their has ta be one!
40,000 bonus points to start... yes to start...
40 hours to get in as many kill's as you can
- 1,000 points per hour... yes that's correct... minus 1,000 points per hour

Now... a grocery list... 12 cat's howling
11 cows are milking.

Or (s)he with the most kill's wins.. ( animal's only count)
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Sep 16 2016, 01:08 AM
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Sep 15 2016, 05:08 PM
Credit to glargg for an idea for a future competition. Adept difficulty, only what you find in Helgen. Last (wo)man standing.
Thane of all holds...extra points for guard uniforms & shields. .. NO killing them! IE you or your follower cant', but a dragon, wolf..bandit's etc can.

I had an idea for another round, but I'm not sure if we want to go their... here's the Idea anyway.

Hunter:
Legendary or Master ( everyone plays one or the other, vote)
Points for animal kill's
10 pt's for wolf ...50 for Ice wolf
50 for Bear....100 for Snowy bear
50 for Sabre cat...100 for snowy
1000 for Mammoth...
( and thing's in between)

and here's the catch! cause ya know their has ta be one!
40,000 bonus points to start... yes to start...
40 hours to get in as many kill's as you can
- 1,000 points per hour... yes that's correct... minus 1,000 points per hour

Now... a grocery list... 12 cat's howling
11 cows are milking.

Or (s)he with the most kill's wins.. ( animal's only count)
I'm kinda thinking about that... So, let's say I join that competition, and don't play at all. I have 40,000 points, and people actually playing have to get better than a thousand points per hour to beat me. How many mammoths are in the game?
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I *think* the winner would be whoever had the LEAST points at the end? At least I thought that's what it meant....
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Sep 16 2016, 07:16 PM
I *think* the winner would be whoever had the LEAST points at the end? At least I thought that's what it meant....
I didn't get it that way, but... it really doesn't make much difference, does it? I mean, okay so I start off with 40,000 points. I play the game, spending my time in Whiterun or some draugr pit and never kill an animal at all. See an animal, run like hell or use Kyne's Peace on it.

At the end of 40 hours my score is at 0, and goes into negative territory from there. I think that's a kind of a problem, eh?
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LoL....flaw....《sigh 》...so that would mean laundry list of animals that have to be killed ...at minimum. .. no bonus til after that list was checked or no time bonus.

Idea that needed to be fleshed out... you loose the bonus over time btw....like everything else. ..input...need input!
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Ok....I just watched the first parts of that number 24 video again.

Actually his shock spells were barely harming it....most of its damage was due to the melee followers assaulting it. Notice when he falls into the pit with the sphere....yes he hit it like five times....but it's already down to barely 20% health BEFORE he starts that attack sequence. In other words...if it was just his storm mage alone against a full health sphere...he'd have to shock it like about thirty times...by which time....well. And...that's just ONE sphere. So yeah...pretty unimpressive actually! But amusing. It would be better also if instead of gabbling junk constantly he had limited his rambling to meaningful and helpful input....but thats typical "you tuber" nonsense for ya.

BTW...Anyone can spiel the crap like that...""er yeah..ok..I'm just gonna go ahead here and waste this guy cos like well I Don't wanna not do that ok...HELLOOO bad guy! BOOM! Yeah how'd ya like them apples creep! Kinda ruined his day huh..oh lookey here another one wants some too""

And on it goes...a mind numbing banality of verbal squitters....and these guys get millions of ratings...why? In gods name why?.....I'm thinking more like 'shut the f.up and get on with it'


Come to think of it...if I can do that you tuber crap talk on the fly...then I should make Adella videos too. ;)
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Sep 16 2016, 07:50 PM
Ok....I just watched the first parts of that number 24 video again.

Actually his shock spells were barely harming it....most of its damage was due to the melee followers assaulting it. Notice when he falls into the pit with the sphere....yes he hit it like five times....but it's already down to barely 20% health BEFORE he starts that attack sequence. In other words...if it was just his storm mage alone against a full health sphere...he'd have to shock it like about thirty times...by which time....well. And...that's just ONE sphere. So yeah...pretty unimpressive actually! But amusing. It would be better also if instead of gabbling junk constantly he had limited his rambling to meaningful and helpful input....but thats typical "you tuber" nonsense for ya.

BTW...Anyone can spiel the crap like that...""er yeah..ok..I'm just gonna go ahead here and waste this guy cos like well I Don't wanna not do that ok...HELLOOO bad guy! BOOM! Yeah how'd ya like them apples creep! Kinda ruined his day huh..oh lookey here another one wants some too""

And on it goes...a mind numbing banality of verbal squitters....and these guys get millions of ratings...why? In gods name why?.....I'm thinking more like 'shut the f.up and get on with it'


Come to think of it...if I can do that you tuber crap talk on the fly...then I should make Adella videos too. ;)
Only if you let Adella do the talking! :hubba:
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All---righty then... It's October Halloween is on the Horizon... Some people have finished the CoW competition...some have not started ( yet), have no intention of playing 🎃 sooo what I am saying is, It's time to find out if we want to play some mini games...

#1... Trick or Treat Run ... Themed after the Fuzzily ancient custom of the men of the Village traveling .in costume, from village to village... to keep the "demon's" from knowing they were human.
* In a costume ( or not)
* Route between Inn's TBD
* timed.. DiD rules apply...cause it's timed and...ya die ya start over.

#2 ... Uhhh Costume contest ( it's Halloween for crying out loud)
* Most original
* spooky
* funny
* other class to be thought of when I have enough caffine in me

#3... Spooky Picture contest...something like \/ \/\/ that... yes you can get a good console pic!
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So IF their is enough people that want to participate... I'll drum up a run route...rules etc.
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From the complete lack of response, I am going to guess no one is interested... :D
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Not....necessarily ;)

Most people like to follow on rather than lead....I'm sure it will get underway and gather its own momentum....have faith :)
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