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(Skyrim) Student of Winterhold (2); Time to grab those robes and cast some spells!
Topic Started: Aug 25 2016, 10:30 AM (4,785 Views)
glargg
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There's a proven engine bug that can cause even higher damage, and that may be what's hitting some of the time. This bug is not fixed by the Unofficial Patch for PC, but can be fixed with a mod that requires the Script Extender, to add a DLL.

I don't use that mod. Turija mentioned it recently on the Bethsoft forum.
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Glargg,

Are you referring to the engine bug I mentioned in the previous post which is fixed in a USLEEP change, (HERE: change log V2.1.3(2015-07-12) "magic, perk and skill fixes"At Bullet point 14)

Or did the USLEEP fix attempt fail...requiring a different and later attempt to cure it?

Specifically...from USLEEP
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Hope that helps :)


It is worth pointing out again the obvious that even the correctly working npc perk can deal UPTO 6x extra damage. (But can be less).

That means for example on legendary....18x more damage than adept.

WITH the engine bug operating that doubles to 36x adept damage

So a basic longbow and iron arrow would deal about 500 damage!
Armour reduces that hitting the char...but if the npc has an ebony bow and arrow set and they are a Deathlord...well...goodnight!
Edited by Rick, Sep 12 2016, 09:07 AM.
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Richard
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I added a thing and removed another. I also ate some ice cream, which is ice.

Carry on, mages.
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Sep 11 2016, 01:04 PM
I did to no avail. My best guess is that a Riekling snuck in a rocket propelled grenade in place of a spear and one shot him.
so sorry Rafer ..... :(

its all this ones fault :face: , ever since this one almost wiped out all the Ewok population they have become more hostile than usual........Revenge of the Ewok's ..... :bat:

Are you sure you did not hear a ...."come here little human" ?.....Bipp bipp bipp bipp .......just before you where blown to smithereens? :zap:
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Sah
Sep 12 2016, 05:20 PM
Rafer
Sep 11 2016, 01:04 PM
I did to no avail. My best guess is that a Riekling snuck in a rocket propelled grenade in place of a spear and one shot him.
so sorry Rafer ..... :(

its all this ones fault :face: , ever since this one almost wiped out all the Ewok population they have become more hostile than usual........Revenge of the Ewok's ..... :bat:

Are you sure you did not hear a ...."come here little human" ?.....Bipp bipp bipp bipp .......just before you where blown to smithereens? :zap:
Nothing funnier than shooting the mini nuke as the suicider charges you!! :gun: :evil:
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Uhmmm.. Depends on how close the suicider is when you finally set it off...

"Shoot the nuke!"
"Quick, shoot the nuke!"
"For the love of God, SHOOT THE NUKE!"
"WAIT! DON'T shoot the nuke dont don't dont do..."
BOOM
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I still laugh when my torso goes flying, lol. I havent started DiD in Fallout, yet.
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Sep 12 2016, 06:49 PM
I still laugh when my torso goes flying, lol. I havent started DiD in Fallout, yet.
now that's a good idea & a challenge.............a FO4 DiD challenge ........... :clap:
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You know those of you who play FO4 can always do a DiD challenge.... nothing say's ya can't.
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Sep 12 2016, 05:55 PM
Uhmmm.. Depends on how close the suicider is when you finally set it off...

"Shoot the nuke!"
"Quick, shoot the nuke!"
"For the love of God, SHOOT THE NUKE!"
"WAIT! DON'T shoot the nuke dont don't dont do..."
BOOM


Beep Beep Beep ........"Shoot the nuke!" .........bang bagn bang :gun: ........miss miss miss ^o)
Beep Beep Beep ........."Quick, shoot the nuke!" ............bang bang :gun: ........missed again & missed again :-/
Beep Beep Beep ........."For the love of God, SHOOT THE NUKE!" ........bang bang bang :gun: ....miss miss miss.....ohhh shit & :bleep:

"WAIT! DON'T shoot the nuke dont don't dont do shoot :scared:

Beep Beep Beep.........Nooooooooooooooo :face: ................
"BOOM" :grump:
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this one take her EDP pills every day :metal:

NOTE.............this one may be totally off subject :meh:

as Rick says its hard to prove EDP exists, .............especially if you always play Legendary ...........witch the illusion is that every opponent appears to be a host of the EDP disease

the Ebony Warrior & Karstage are very good at this ..............1 hit kills ..........no legal armor ratings will help you if you are unlucky to get hit first, and very honestly this one dose believe it is a very bad joke on Bethesda behalf ..........give you an opponent that you cant kill on legendary. Every one gets the shock of a unexpected death .............I don't believe any one who says they have killed him in there first EVER encounter on legendary .....EVERY ONE DIES when you meet the warrior the first time .........you just cant predict that he has such a EDP multiplier (well for his first 2-3 power hits)

every now or then you do come across a NPC that is extremely powerful for the level you are playing .......who has meet the mage that challenges you to a wizards contest? .......he is insanely strong ......so strong that anything you do you just cant keep up with the damage he deals ..............is this EDP? or just a normal thing?

if this passed on to other NPC its another question ?.........and is not saying that this one has not experienced this affect, on the contrary after 5 years of playing there are some places in Skyrim that this one goes too that she is so scared of because of this very reason ............Deaths by one hits only.
an observation .............these 1 hit kills have NEVER happened in the same place or by the same opponent twice witch makes you wonder whats going on??

when it comes to DiD when this happens its feels like you have been gutted like a fish .....it hurts because for one you have no idea if it was you or the game ...
you know that your good ....you know its an easy opponent in front of you ....you know that the out come of the battle is in your favor & that you have set up everything properly (build).....you approached the combat in a responsible & SAFE fashion ....this should be easy ..... but what happens ........wham your DEAD

what just happened? ................was it me? ............ was I so careless? ..........it can't be me or was it? .....no no no ........what just happened?
right there and then you know you been ripped off .............you just know that what just happened was a horror moment.....game gone insane!!!!!!!

changing of topic

it is one of Bethesda downfalls that the only way they know of how to make the game harder is to change the Difficulty multipliers.

honesty the legendary x 0.75 Vs x 3 is insanely hard at the early stages of the game ............a good level 30 is a safety zone

the problem here is that this change dose not flow with the rest of the game .........Armor Capping makes no sense on legendary .......and so do many other things.

also the 1 to 1 on adept really dose not reflect a true picture of how game should be ...............why can you kill some one with 1 hit but you seems to be invisible if you are wearing a descent set of armor .......literally you can stand in front of a wolf all day long and not feel a thing (except from getting a disease or two)

like this one said may be TOTALLY off subject ............sorry has a hobbit of doing that :meh:

:rose:


Edited by Sah, Sep 13 2016, 12:57 AM.
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Sep 12 2016, 08:36 AM
Glargg,

Are you referring to the engine bug I mentioned in the previous post which is fixed in a USLEEP change, (HERE: change log V2.1.3(2015-07-12) "magic, perk and skill fixes"At Bullet point 14)
No, there's a separate engine bug that occurs when NPC perks are doubled. It can happen when you load a save; nearby NPCs are affected.

It's fixed by a bugfix mod made by meh321, which requires SKSE.

Patches that fix game engine bugs typically need a DLL, so you need SKSE to handle loading that file.
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Mini update...cause we haven't gotten far.

Ar'Ryai is lvl 9.... 10.12 hrs

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1st lesson ( more pic's in then DiD Screen shot thread)
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ohhhh please tell ..........what robes are you wearing? ................nice
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@ Sah...Those are her "Robes of peerless seduction" Turns mens legs to jelly for 30 seconds.....

@ Glargg....thanks....so in fact then....I have TWO sepparate engine bugs in my system both of which double the npc damage perks....that's just great!

I have come to realise that in fact MOST npcs use extra damage perks....its how they are given meaningful output at higher levels.

But normally you would encounter the commonly applied lower values like 1.5x extra damage or maybe 2x......but the 6x damage is the killer.....especially when doubled by the bug!

Its all in the Wiki page under skyrim combat/ damage/ npc perks (I can't link it on ipad...but if you follow the string I gave you'll find it easy enough)

I HAVE actually caught a Marauder archer using it in the TG quests in that cave system you access via the Warehouse when tailing the Argonian Gulum Ei. We didn't die cos her armour was really high and the archer only had something like a Dwarven bow....but one hit took most of her health. I experimented a bit...but on reload he was back down to his expected low output and couldn't take more than like a quarter of her health per hit.
If our Armour had not been up in the 1000+ range...it would have been a one hit kill.

I don't think it affects magical damage...but the effect is not limited to archers!
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Sah it's from Art of Magicka

<sigh> which is NOT checked in my load order on NMM "mods" page but IS under "plugins"... and all but the very base robes might be "an advantage mod"... I had thought it was added on with Opulent outfits... ( which would be just the robes) but no... so I am still having the same issue. ( I think I know what the issue is, cause I know when it started...I'll have to run some "tests" and see)

So Richard... I'm out... I'll shadow play, along with everyone, but until I can get this locked down and fixed, I can't switch profiles without leaving some files behind that aren't supposed to be.
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Looked at the mod page and it says that it adds craftable items, so you'd have to craft them to obtain them. i believe it's pretty safe to use.
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Sep 13 2016, 08:04 AM
Sah it's from Art of Magicka

<sigh> which is NOT checked in my load order on NMM "mods" page but IS under "plugins"... and all but the very base robes might be "an advantage mod"... I had thought it was added on with Opulent outfits... ( which would be just the robes) but no... so I am still having the same issue. ( I think I know what the issue is, cause I know when it started...I'll have to run some "tests" and see)

So Richard... I'm out... I'll shadow play, along with everyone, but until I can get this locked down and fixed, I can't switch profiles without leaving some files behind that aren't supposed to be.
has no idea what your talking about :'( ...............but those robes are soooo sexy :bunny: ............must get them ...........how much? ;)
Edited by Sah, Sep 13 2016, 08:16 AM.
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Sep 13 2016, 08:12 AM
Looked at the mod page and it says that it adds craftable items, so you'd have to craft them to obtain them. i believe it's pretty safe to use.
yea .......... :clap: ..............now this one can go and buy it :hubba:
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Sep 13 2016, 08:12 AM
Looked at the mod page and it says that it adds craftable items, so you'd have to craft them to obtain them. i believe it's pretty safe to use.
OK.. that would be fine for that mod...but I have a list of others that keep popping in... and some of them would be an issue.

I may re-join later but right now... I want to track the issue and play without worrying that I'm "cheating"
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