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Regional Government
Topic Started: Jun 8 2015, 09:39 PM (194 Views)
Triodard and Florard
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As our population begins to grow I think it would be fun and in our best interest to establish a regional government starting in June, assuming we get a few more active nations by then. We have about 20 days to write up a Constitution, and if we finish sooner we might even be able to hold elections by then, although I find this unlikely.

Below is what was proposed as the New Talos Constitution but was never passed and, as such, did not go into effect.

The Proposed New Talos Constitution


In my opinion it is a good basis of government, but I think we should write a new Constitution for Talo Balka, considering we merged with Franco Balka, who had a very different government, and we have several new members. I just left it up here for inspiration and guidance.

So, how do you think our government should be run?

I will keep any updated drafts of the Talo Balkan Constitution below:

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Wait, we should have SOME sort of method of making people citizens. Otherwise anybody can barge in and vote.
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Like what, and if someone is motivated how would we be able to stop them from gaining multiple citizenships? To be honest if they know what they're doing we have no way to detect it. Really any big requirements might only discourage people.
Edited by Triodard and Florard, Jun 10 2015, 09:52 PM.
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Well, isn't the whole "citizenship" thing entirely useless then?
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Triodard and Florard
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Not really. Most people are honest, and being told "Hey, you cannot have more than one Citizenship" will be enough. Others will be sloppy (Like use the same IP address) and get caught. But making them do x amount of posts isn't going to change that. I mainly added the clause about citizenship being revoked if they don't make a post after one month on the forum because of that. Perhaps we could lower it? That way we ward off 'puppets' whose sole purpose is voting.
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I wasn't going to suggest a post requirement or anything. I was just gonna say we should have them fill out a short thing saying they want to be a citizen, then get approved by a minister or admin or something and have their forum account moved to a "citizens" group that is able to access the voting place. Most regions do something like that for citizenship.
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That's exactly what I have in the Constitution. Article I, Clause 5: A thread is to be established for citizenship applications. The application must include the player’s nation in Talo Balka, any other current regional citizenships, and any questions they may have. The application thread must make very clear the rule that each player must hold only one Citizen in Talo Balka.
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I made some major revisions to the Judiciary Article.

Article IX: The Judiciary
1. The Judiciary's purpose is to determine the Constitutionality of Laws and to hear cases regarding violation of laws.
2. The Judiciary is composed of Justices. Justices are Citizens who have thorough knowledge of the Law.
3. The Speaker and the President may nominate a Citizen for position of Justice, but they may not nominate themselves for the position. If the nominated Citizen desire to become a Justice, it will be put to vote. Three-quarters of the votes must be in favor of them becoming a Justice in order for them to be lawfully appointed.
4. Once appointed, a Justice serves indefinitely unless recalled or if they willingly step down.
5. Laws are assumed Constitutional unless a Justice challenges it. If a Law is challenged by a Justice, the Justices have a week to discuss and vote on the Constitutionality of the Law, and unless two-thirds or more vote in favor of its Constitutionality, the Law is rendered null and void.
6. Any Citizen may petition the Judiciary to hear their case if they believe a Law has been broken. At least two Justices must declare that the case is worthy of the Court's time in order for it to be heard.
7. The Justices serve as the Jury for the trial. They may not take an active role as the Jury in the trial if they are part of the Prosecution or the Defense. A Justice may voluntarily choose to not participate if they believe they would be biased.
8. All the Justices serving as the Jury must vote from among themselves a Chief Justice before the trial begins, who will keep the trial organized and decide the punishment should the Defendant be found guilty.
9. The Judiciary must hear the prosecution's and defense's cases until both parties declare that they are satisfied with what has been said. If the case lasts a month, at least two Justices must declare that it warrants more time in order for it to continue for a week.
10. After the case is over, the Justices serving on the Jury must vote on each charge to determine whether the Defendant is found guilty or not guilty. A two-thirds majority is needed for them to be found guilty of a charge. This discussion and voting may not last longer than a week.
11. If the Defendant is found guilty, the Chief Justice is to decide on the punishment within a week.
12. Should the Defense or Prosecution feel the trial was unfair, they may appeal for a retrial. All the Justices, the President, and the Speaker are to review the trial, and after no more than two weeks vote on whether it should be reheard. Only a simple majority vote among them is needed for the trial to be reheard.
13. A case may only be appealed once.
14. Should a government official be found guilty of a crime, a recall election is to be immediately held. Only a simple majority is needed to remove them from office in the recall trial.
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Based on suggestions from Ismaria, I have made some more changes to the proposal, including:

- Article V, Clause 8 now refers to defamation as opposed to slander, as we are not actually speaking with each other.
- Article X now has improved wording. Many thanks to Ismaria for the revisions, especially for Clause 1. Clause 3 is expanded to be broader while still keeping in like with Article V, Clause 8 and allowing the government to deal with spam.
- Article IX now revised to prevent a retrial from having the same jury. (Clause 13)

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Hello all, just introducing myself on the forum.

I am a new nation to Talo Balka, and there seems to be an amazing system for this region!

Anyways, I had a couple thoughts, as to make it more diverse.

Firstly, for the Assembly, I would consider maybe having elections for that itself. Then, the Assembly would proceed to vote on a Speaker, as that's generally how it works. Now, seeing as this hasn't really even begun yet, parties could possibly be introduced later. With majority and minority leaders and such.

As well, what of a Supreme Court, or a Court of Justice? I don't really know what else to say other than that.

Anyways, these are just a few ideas for regional government.



Another idea is maybe to have a system such as the European Union, with the Commission being the executive branch, the Council and Parliament being the upper an lower houses of the legislation, respectively, and then a Court of Justice.

Thanks!

-UK
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I can understand wanting an elected assembly, and if we grow sufficiently larger in the future, that would be a good of action. However, as it stands, I don't think we have enough active nations to make that viable. One of my goals with this Constitution was to make it functional even while our region is small, so I created only two necessary elected government positions. As we grow we always could change it and expand it. Concerning parties, I don't see a need to include anything about them in the Constitution, but I don't see a problem with it.

The Justices serve as the Supreme Court, determining the Constitutionality of laws and hearing other cases.
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