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| Topic of the Week: Is feminism still relevant? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 9 2015, 12:31 PM (41 Views) | |
| Larsland | Jul 9 2015, 12:31 PM Post #1 |
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What are all y'all's views on feminism? Are there any other feminists here? Or has the philosophy overstayed its welcome? |
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| Ismaria | Jul 9 2015, 09:32 PM Post #2 |
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I think in countries like the United States, where women are basically universally recognized as being equal (if not superior) to men, there is really no need for feminism anymore. There is no empirically-proven wage gap in the United States, and all women are guaranteed equal treatment under the law and in society by the 14th, 19th and other constitutional amendments. Feminism is still incredibly relevant in the developing world, however. In the Middle East, where the line between religion and secular government has been blurred to the point of nonexistence, women are incredibly disenfranchised compared to males, as is the same in Africa, Southeast Asia, and even South America. First world feminists should be directing their attention to these actual events of structural violence, rather than overreacting over irrelevant minutiae that have no real impact on their lives. |
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| The Altarian Empire | Jul 9 2015, 11:28 PM Post #3 |
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I have generally the same opinion. The term "feminist" these days has almost completely been sullied by third wave Tumblr SJW "feminists" that aren't nearly so much as advocating for women's rights (in the sense that men and women should be equal) as they are outright gynocentrism and misandry. There is definitely a need for true "women's right's activists" in the Third World, such as the Middle East or India. |
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| Triodard and Florard | Jul 11 2015, 09:44 PM Post #4 |
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It really depends on whether you define feminism based on dictionary definitions or by the actions of the movement at large. If you're talking dictionary definitions, then by all means, I am a feminist through and through. I believe men and women should have equal rights, and I do think that there are at the very least cultural threats to this equality, even in the first world. Naturally in nations like Saudi Arabia they have a long way to go before reaching equality. My main issue with the movement is the fanatic defense of the term "feminism," to the point where it seems they value semantics more than progress. They immediately discount anyone who does not identify as a feminist, even if they call themselves "egalitarian," which, if they truly promote equal rights, would be a broader, but still fairly equivalent term. Furthermore, they go around touting the dictionary definition, which is a sure sign that their actions have begun to speak louder than their words. I agree with a lot of what they say. For example, although I think the term "rape culture" is misleading, rape is an epidemic, and it is a fact that it is primarily carried out against women by men. My issue is that it's gotten to the point that telling women the simple fact that dressing modestly will make it less likely for them to be raped has been labeled as misogyny. It's no more misogynistic than telling someone that locking their door makes it less likely for them to be robbed. Sure we should also educate people on the issue at hand, but to be labeling facts-not opinions, facts-as misogynistic is a sign that the movement has gotten out of hand. The movement is shooting women in the foot. It has good intentions, and is trying to deal with real issues, but has very poor form. |
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