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| Governing Document - Draft 4 | |
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| Ascienia | Feb 6 2011, 11:43 PM Post #1 |
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OOC: I think this can be put through a formal vote. Durk's already razing regions, so I think we need to get government sorted out. Section 1: General 1.1) The government of the Imperial Legion is to consist of three legislative bodies: The Sentry of Elders, The Council of Ministers, and the Imperial Senate. Section 2: The Imperial Senate 2.1) The Imperial Senate is a self-organizing, self-sufficient democratic chamber. 2.2) The Imperial Senate reviews all External Affairs actions such as, but not including declarations of war, treaties of friendship, etc. They cannot reject them, but can stay the bill until a specified date. 2.3) The Imperial Senate establishes, commissions, and regulates Internal Affairs Ministries within this region and any colony regions affiliated with this region. 2.4) The Imperial Senate can choose to vote "non-confidence" over any governing body, requesting Emperor intervention in shuffling or removing the members of the specified governmental body. 2.5) Imperial Senate Membership can be attained either by a Senate vote or by direct appointment of the Emperor. 2.6) The Imperial Senate cannot disband any Sentry of Elders post. Section 3: The Council of Ministers 3.1) Ministries are commissioned by the Imperial Senate. Ministers are to be chosen by the Imperial Senate. 3.2) Ministries can be disbanded and Ministers can be shuffled at any time by the Imperial Senate. 3.3) The role of the Ministries is to perform the tasks commissioned by the Imperial Senate. Section 4: The Sentry of Elders 4.1) The Sentry of Elders is led and Elders are commissioned by the Emperor to carry out External Affairs. 4.2) The Emperor can pass specific positions to Senate control. 4.3) The Emperor can make decisions for the entire Sentry. Section 5: Ratification and Amendments 5.1) Ratification of this document shall require a majority vote of the Imperial Senate and approval of the Emperor. 5.2) Further amendments to this document will require a 2/3 vote by the Imperial Senate and approval of the Emperor. OOC: This is Rappatoni's document with a few modifications from me. I think the cannot reject but postpone is a good balance of power. Also, the Emperor should be able to give Chancellor positions to Senate control. I think this can be put to a vote. |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 7 2011, 12:02 AM Post #2 |
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Very nice; this is the best one yet. I am willing to 'officially' lend my support to its passage. I also agree that it is time to move on this. Originally I had hoped to drag this process out for a couple weeks but our region is growing much faster than I could have ever anticipated. My one suggestion would be to specify the amount of time the Senate can stay executive actions. |
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| Trasillia | Feb 7 2011, 02:09 AM Post #3 |
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I think senator its time you added this with a poll for the senate to vote for it to become law |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 7 2011, 02:57 AM Post #4 |
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Hold up - I would still like to leave the discussion on this open for another 24 hours or so, so that others may offer amendments. I would also like to see the executive action stay limited to a certain time (2 weeks for example) before we vote on this. I deeply appreciate your enthusiasm Proconsul but we need to establish some level of consensus before bringing this to a vote :P |
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| Trasillia | Feb 7 2011, 03:03 AM Post #5 |
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As you wish Majesty, i see your point i only mean to serve the legion to my fullest and most expediant. I apoligise for the rushed effort |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 7 2011, 03:06 AM Post #6 |
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Not a problem; like I said I admire your enthusiasm. |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 7 2011, 03:11 AM Post #7 |
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Thread pinned. But I would like to get a move on this very soon, so now's your chance to offer amendments/suggestions. |
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| Trasillia | Feb 7 2011, 03:19 AM Post #8 |
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The Cabinet interior positions and exteterior positions should be made known in this document so as there is refernce to what council people belong in. |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 7 2011, 04:46 AM Post #9 |
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I actually like the flexibility of not explicitly naming the cabinet positions. That way we can create and dissolve them as we please. But it might be a good idea to list examples somewhere in the document. |
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| Trasillia | Feb 7 2011, 04:49 AM Post #10 |
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i agree majesty, in some form it would be good |
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| Horak | Feb 7 2011, 05:39 AM Post #11 |
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i don't see any detail of the actual legislative duties of the senate. in this form it seems to be more an advisory/regulatory committee. is this how it is intended or was the ability to legislate actual laws overlooked? how does the military fit in? are they part of the Sentry of Elders? and who came up with the name Sentry of Elders? :P |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 7 2011, 05:48 AM Post #12 |
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Simply Irresistible
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I assumed the Senate's ability to legislate was implied in their power to regulate the ministries, but in retrospect that doesn't make much sense. The Senate absolutely should have legislative power over the internal affairs of the region (and its colonies). And I did overlook the sentry bit... I don't know what a sentry is, other than a lookout guard or something. :P |
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| New Enterprise | Feb 7 2011, 05:50 AM Post #13 |
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"such as, but not including" sounds contradictory. Should it perhaps be "including, but not limited to"? |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 7 2011, 05:52 AM Post #14 |
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Section 1: General 1.1) The government of the Imperial Legion is to consist of three legislative bodies: The Council of Elders, The Council of Ministers, and the Imperial Senate. Section 2: The Imperial Senate 2.1) The Imperial Senate is a self-organizing, self-sufficient democratic chamber. 2.2) The Imperial Senate reviews all Council of Elders actions such as, but not limited to declarations of war, treaties of friendship, etc. They cannot reject them, but can stay the bill for up to two weeks. 2.3) The Imperial Senate establishes, commissions, and regulates Internal Affairs Ministries within this region and any colony regions affiliated with this region. 2.4) The Imperial Senate can choose to vote "non-confidence" over any governing body, requesting Emperor intervention in shuffling or removing the members of the specified governmental body. 2.5) The Imperial Senate has legislative authority over the internal affairs of the Imperial Legion and its colonies. 2.6) Imperial Senate Membership can be attained either by a Senate vote or by direct appointment of the Emperor. 2.7) The Imperial Senate cannot disband any Council of Elders post. Section 3: The Council of Ministers 3.1) Ministries are commissioned by the Imperial Senate. Ministers are to be chosen by the Imperial Senate. 3.2) Ministries can be disbanded and Ministers can be shuffled at any time by the Imperial Senate. 3.3) The role of the Ministries is to perform the tasks commissioned by the Imperial Senate. Section 4: The Council of Elders 4.1) The Council of Elders is led and Elders are commissioned by the Emperor to carry out Security and External Affairs. 4.2) The Emperor can pass specific positions and areas of policy to Senate control. 4.3) The Emperor can make decisions for the entire Council. Section 5: Ratification and Amendments 5.1) Ratification of this document shall require a majority vote of the Imperial Senate and approval of the Emperor. 5.2) Further amendments to this document will require a 2/3 vote by the Imperial Senate and approval of the Emperor. |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 7 2011, 05:53 AM Post #15 |
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I've edited the document a little bit further to address some of the concerns raised here. |
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