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Review of Senatorial Acception
Topic Started: Feb 21 2011, 04:00 PM (290 Views)
Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem
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I have created a new procedure that concerns mainly the initiating of new Senators into the Senate. The current procedures allows for Senators to vote either Aye or Nay on the application of new Senators. However the current system does not give any conceivable time for existing Senators to review the new Senators and therefore base their vote on the new Senators actions.

Section 1:

1. A Senator can make himself recognised as an applicant to the Senate by taking an oath of loyalty to the Emperor.
2. After the oath has been taken the applicant will become an Under Senator and will be subject to a period of 72 hours of review.
3. During this time the Under Senator has the privileges of a full Senator but does not have the voting power. Any vote made by an Under Senator will not be taken.
4. After this period a vote will be taken that will last 72 hours.
5. After the period if the Ayes have the majority then the Under Senator will become a full Senator with all the power and privileges of a Senator.
6. There will be no discrimination and disregarding of the opinions an Under Senator makes. All people in the Senate Chamber are equal regardless of title.
7. No limit will be created on the number of recognised Senators.


This system may hopefully reduce the chance of potential infiltrators gaining access to the Senate. Those Senators currently being voted upon are exempt from the system change as they are under the jurisdiction of the current system.
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New Enterprise
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So, you want to extend the time it takes to gain full recognition as Imperial Senator from 72 hours to 240 hours? :blink:
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Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem
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It would hopefully create a better system that we may review the Senator applicants. Of course, I am open to suggestion about the time.

However, in my view, the longer the length of time it takes to review these applicants the better.
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New Enterprise
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What kind of review are we supposed to do? Say a nation applies to the Senate and then doesn't post at all during the review time. How does the extended time then give us anything more to go on?
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His Lordship Yonghuoyan
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I feel that extending the deadline for review would only discourage possible Senators. Waiting a full week is quite high. I myself would prefer reducing the time for review, but adding the ability to eject any Senator by a majority vote or other such practices.
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Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem
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@New Enterprise: We deduce that the Senator will not be active in his service and therefore we do not vote for them or not even consider them. Of course, this does not limit them to Senatorial decisions. This would go to roleplay and activity in the Imperial Attack Force.
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Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem
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Yonghuoyan
Feb 21 2011, 05:01 PM
I feel that extending the deadline for review would only discourage possible Senators. Waiting a full week is quite high. I myself would prefer reducing the time for review, but adding the ability to eject any Senator by a majority vote or other such practices.

I would be willing to reduce the time to three days.

This system would eradicate any need to later consider whether to evict any Senator, a system currently in effect if I remember correctly.

It is important that we have time to consider whether these people who are applying are going to work for us. One way to figure this out would be if these applicants immerse themselves fully in the Legion. We should not really give our Senatorship to anyone who comes along and asks for one.
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New Enterprise
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We have so far been giving Senatorship to anyone who comes along and asks for it. And this debate has made me realise that I would like to see that practice continue.

There is no law or convention requiring Senators to be active.
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Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem
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Indeed we have and if I was an infiltrator then I would certainly see an opening into the Imperial Legion which is certainly despised and many would certainly want to enter and give away information. Surely you can see that?

While there is, indeed, no law against inactive Senators this should be possibly be discussed at a more in depth level at a later time.
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Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem
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Note: Section 2 has been edited to 72 hours as opposed to 1 week.
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His Lordship Yonghuoyan
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At the same time, becoming a Senator is not that much of a deal for an infiltrator. True, they may effect legislation, but they won't have access to the military secrets that this region keeps. To get that requires one to either be a Cabinet Minister, or an IAF member, both of which are a bit more selective on who can join.

The issue of Inactive Senators is definitely something to consider in the near future.
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New Enterprise
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A review period of 72 hours and a subsequent vote of 72 hours make it 6 days and nights in total.

An infiltrator does not gain much by being recognised as a Senator. Let us assume, for argument's sake, that the Senate has already been infiltrated. What threat does that pose to the Imperial Legion anyway? Senatorship does not grant access to any sensitive information.

I would be more worried about the IAF being infiltrated easily, but that is not a matter for this Senate.
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Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem
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True. I therefore close the topic as it is pointless and would only cause difficulty and perhaps decrease for people to apply to Senatorship.
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