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| Motion to Discuss: Procedures of the Senate; Apropos Recognition as Senator | |
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| New Enterprise | Feb 21 2011, 05:25 PM Post #1 |
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Esteemed fellow Senators, I hereby bring forth a motion to discuss the Procedures of the Senate of the Imperial Legion. My intention is to amend the procedures to be in compliance with the letter and spirit of the Codex of the Imperial Legion, namely this part:
Arguing that the intent of the Codex has been distorted in the Procedures, that a vote with no basis is no better than no vote and that a high threshold to attain full recognition as Imperial Senator is discouraging to possible Senators, I submit this motion to discuss in accordance with Mark 5 of the Procedures and remind my fellow Senators that it needs to be seconded before any actual process of amendment may commence. |
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| Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem | Feb 21 2011, 05:40 PM Post #2 |
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I will second the motion assuming you mean that you want the Codex to be changed so that instead of mark 2.6 reading "Imperial Senate Membership can be attained by either Senate vote or by direct appointment of the Emperor." you want it to be along the lines of: 2.6 Imperial Senate Membership can be attained only by vote in the Senate. |
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| New Enterprise | Feb 21 2011, 05:44 PM Post #3 |
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The quoted 2.6 is from the Codex. This is a motion to discuss the Procedures. My intention is to restore the system outlined in the Codex that no vote is needed if the Emperor directly appoints someone as Senator. |
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| Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem | Feb 21 2011, 05:46 PM Post #4 |
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So what exactly are you wanting? No vote with the Emperor appointing directly or a vote? |
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| New Enterprise | Feb 21 2011, 05:49 PM Post #5 |
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I want that which is in the Codex: becoming a Senator requires either a.) a vote in the Senate or b.) direct appointment by the Emperor. |
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| New Enterprise | Feb 21 2011, 05:55 PM Post #6 |
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Rinamir Mortem, I think it would be best if you stated clearly whether you have seconded this motion or not. |
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| Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem | Feb 21 2011, 05:57 PM Post #7 |
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So is what you decide to change going to be decided via poll or by what is discussed here. If the latter then I would say changing it to appointment by Emperor because I still think that by voting on letting people in would be a waste of time considering that our Emperor could do literally what we are doing but much quicker. |
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| New Enterprise | Feb 21 2011, 06:11 PM Post #8 |
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This is the procedure for amending legislation:
If there is a Senator who wishes to see my amendment proposal, I suggest that that Senator clearly seconds my motion to discuss. |
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| Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem | Feb 21 2011, 06:16 PM Post #9 |
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Right. I got that part. I, Rinamir Mortem, hereby seconds New Enterprises Motion to Discuss: Procedures of the Senate. |
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| New Enterprise | Feb 21 2011, 06:35 PM Post #10 |
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I would like to direct the Senate's attention to Section 1 of the Procedures:
I hereby propose that this be amended to:
This would mean that once someone has taken the oath, the Emperor can directly appoint them as Senator. Alternatively, the Emperor can request the Senate to vote on it. Also, the nation in question can request the Senate to vote, if the Emperor has not already appointed them Senator. |
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| Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem | Feb 21 2011, 06:43 PM Post #11 |
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I assume the vote will be tomorrow? Also, the reason why my second was somewhat late was purely because I missed the 6th post. |
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| New Enterprise | Feb 21 2011, 07:04 PM Post #12 |
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I don't think there's any rule to exactly when we vote, so I guess it'll be some time when we feel like we have discussed the matter enough. |
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| HIM Emperor Emeritus Durk II | Feb 21 2011, 08:59 PM Post #13 |
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Simply Irresistible
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I've always had mixed feelings about the requirement that the Senate vote on each application. On one hand it'd keep the Senate busy and active; on the other hand it could be a turnoff to potential applicants. It also worries me that the Senate could easily get flooded with application votes during busy times. So, while I am not strongly against the current procedure, I would prefer the one proposed by Senator New Enterprise. |
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| Ascienia | Feb 22 2011, 12:24 AM Post #14 |
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Known Traitor
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I suggest the commission of an elected Senate council / position to evaluate Senatorial applications. He has a deadline, say, 24 hours, to accept a Candidate Senator or not. If we are unhappy with his decisions, the Senate has the power to overrule / dispose of him/her, as per the Codex. |
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| Rt. Hon. Rinamir Mortem | Feb 22 2011, 12:49 AM Post #15 |
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Sounds like a good idea. I like. It takes the decision away from the Senate who may already be preoccupied with other votes. Who would be the Senate Council/Position? |
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