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| Topic Started: Feb 27 2008, 08:25 PM (128 Views) | |
| stormbreaker | Feb 28 2008, 07:39 PM Post #16 |
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| seraphrevan | Feb 28 2008, 07:39 PM Post #17 |
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Je dois manger le chapeau? |
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| stormbreaker | Feb 28 2008, 07:44 PM Post #18 |
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My kitten is so cute. 
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| lumpunzik | Mar 3 2008, 05:44 PM Post #19 |
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Don't just jump to calling it "dumb", because LSD is not just a random mixture of poisons and hydrocarbons. It's made from a long chemical process, turning these things into something that they were nothing like before. (No, I have not, and will not try make it myself, nor have I ever taken this drug or any other drug discussed, for the record). Do you eat bread mold? Would you eat bread mold? Do you think eating it is dumb? Well, guess what! Penicillin is made from bread mold! Now I know that ventures a little bit because penicillin is meant to cure diseases, but don't forget that hallucinogens like marijuana and even rarely LSD are used as painkillers for incurables like cancer. I'd rather be depressed on my deathbed (I already would be) than in pain AND depressed with the knowledge of my inevitable, soon-to-come death. About this "thought process", more on the subject of recreational drugs: I've found an interesting parallel. You see, we all know the problem America has with obesity, people get depressed because they're fat, and then eat even more to soothe the emotional pain, blah blah blah. Those lacking enough self control to deal with the side affects of overeating, just like with drugs, will eventually be destroyed by it. (Remember "taking the safety labels off of everything"?) Everything in moderation: Avoiding eating too many fatty foods is just like not overusing drugs. Yes, you'll still have to deal with the little amount of fat/depression you put on, but if you have the ability to cope with it and get over the state of depression just as one exercises fat off, is there really a problem? |
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| stormbreaker | Mar 3 2008, 09:45 PM Post #20 |
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The ingredients in some of these drugs are pretty outrageous. Some of them even use Clorox. Eww. Yes, I know about Penicillin. And that is a perfect example of how some drugs are helpful. I agree with the use of marijuana for medical purposes and such, but not recreational. Because when it's used recreationally, it's not for health. In fact, it damages your health. There's no denying that. If it's used to numb pain without medical attention, you could cause yourself further damage. (Pain's there for a reason...) I like your XKCD approach to drugs, but I think that would only work in a perfect society. Whilst many will say that the clear minded should do what they can to save people like this, I would have to agree partially. It's not good for people to cause damage to themselves. However, when they hurt or kill others while high or drunk, that's a whole nother situation to address. And you can't deny that drugs have no impact in that field. More on that here. |
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| lumpunzik | Mar 4 2008, 09:10 PM Post #21 |
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Please revise this paragraph and clear it up. Whatever point/points you are trying to get across is/are poorly written out. Also:
I have already addressed this. I have only a vague idea of what you're talking about in the part that I italicized. |
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| stormbreaker | Mar 5 2008, 09:38 AM Post #22 |
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Did you click the link? That article pretty much sums that statement up. But if you're injured or something and you take drugs to numb the pain, you could potentially harm yourself further. If you are receiving medical attention, there's less chance for that. For example, if you break your leg for whatever reason, and you take drugs to numb the pain, but don't see a doctor because of the drugs, or some other reason, that's bad. You could harm your leg more trying to walk on it. It sound kinda farfetch'd (pokemans) but it's not that uncommon. Also, even alcohol if used with certain painkillers can create drastic effects. That's produced fearless mad men who punch through walls and glass windows and headbutt poles without felling a thing. When in reality they just broke their arm, sliced their arm, and cause a concussion. Sad stuff. I think, and most people will agree, that we should do our part to try and prevent this kinda of avoidable behavior thats dangerous to them, the people around them, and the cops that have to stop them. |
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| lumpunzik | Mar 5 2008, 02:24 PM Post #23 |
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1st bold: Who would do that? They would only deserve that kind of bodily damage for their own stupidity of NOT SEEING A DOCTOR FOR A BROKEN BONE anyway. 2nd: Source/backup? This is only a hypothetical. Sorry, but you're just making broken fallacious arguments now. |
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| stormbreaker | Mar 5 2008, 03:52 PM Post #24 |
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1st: It's on "COPS" all the time. I'm not saying they deserve it... But it can easily be prevented. P.S. I don't watch COPS. 2nd: Not really, the school's officer who came into our class on Friday said he's run into these people before. And he described it as a very frightening situation. I'll take his word. But these are real problems with the effects of drugs on people. I honestly see no reason to take drugs (other than medically) unless you feel like you're not cool enough, or feel insecure with the happiness in your life... Those problems can easily be fixed by going outside and exercising. Apologies, apparently exercising isn't in Firefox's vocabulary.  Here's the corrected link from before: http://tinyurl.com/yreykn |
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| lumpunzik | Mar 5 2008, 10:39 PM Post #25 |
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This doesn't even deserve the witty retort that came to my mind the instant I read that.
Yeah, there are morons like that out there. But I very well implied this in my last major post: legalizing drugs will work like social darwinism. People who make decisions to do stupid shit will get their asses handed to them by nature. People who know to take recreational drugs in moderation will know how much is too much for them, and not push the limit, and therefore, not get eeked out by their own bad decisions. It currently works that way with alcohol and tobacco. (Though tobacco is chemically addicting, thus unlike LSD or Marijuana, but you still get my point: stupidity will kill itself off.) Classic D.A.R.E. propaganda: "Cool people don't do drugs!". Give me a fucking break. This is social propaganda intended to make people choose a side, and as they imply, the "good", or "cool", whatever-you-want-to-call-it-side. People who think they do drugs to be "cool" are part of the group that will kill itself off with its own stupidity because they will do anything (i.e. get stoned on a daily basis) to be part of the social group they choose. And that's not what it's about. It's about being able to make your own choices. Make the wrong ones, like joining a druggie group to be "cool", or making the right ones, like using recreational drugs wisely and carefully. Recreational drugs are for recreation. I will say the following one more time only, and even stress it with italics: Everything in moderation. Just like fatty foods, just like alcohol. Oy. |
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