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Be Serious
Topic Started: Feb 4 2008, 10:48 AM (264 Views)
EMUGOD
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Remember that we are being serious here (mostly)*. No, seriously. we actually intend to do this (maybe)*. this is not hypothetical, it's not role-play, we're the lunatics you read about in the newspaper and hear about on TV. So don't go bandying about that you want to "kill all the niggers", or set yourself up as supreme dictator, or any of that shit. We're also serious about doing this largely out of humanitarian interest, and if you have a problem with that, you don't belong here.

i'm leaving this open for any comments, but remember to make new threads for the actual discussion. anything goes, of course (even setting yourself up as supreme dictator or killing all the niggers), just... be serious.

*see "OH SHI-" in the general discussion board.
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Comfykun
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Aww no Dictators? But I already have a Vice Dictator, a defense minister, an Offense Minister, a leader for my secret police, and a general.
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Comfykun
Feb 4 2008, 11:22 AM
Aww no Dictators? But I already have a Vice Dictator, a defense minister, an Offense Minister, a leader for my secret police, and a general.

you where exactly who i had in mind when i made this post :P
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senstarfire
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In all seriousness, a dictatorship, or even better, a sort of council, should be set up to rule, sort of like a large company's executive board. That way, we could gain the trust of the people by installing black, even native African members to the "board". Though they will remain in the minority until we can be certain that they can be trusted, and have the necessary leadership skills. What we most assuredly cannot do are the following three things:
1) Kill everyone. Even the random civillian is out of the question.
2) Do it for the money. That is what caused Africa to be like it is today.
3) Take it over, only to turn it back over to the Africans. Yeah. That will work. :angry:
4) Install an all-white rule over the country. We would instantly have all of Africa down our throats, for, to them, it would just be a repeat of colonialism, no matter our intentions.
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EMUGOD
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i love how everyone seems to be having the same ideas.

i think hard fascism is the way to go at first. i mean evil, evil shit that still truly needs to be done. sterilize the aids/HIV carriers. kill all the warlords and their armies. get the kiddies away from their parents (those who aren't orphans to begin with) and into government run school camps. and oligarchy is almost always the actual leadership structure (regardless of how you try), and that's the way it should remain for a long while after the initial invasion.

balance this evil out with very clear, immediate improvements. give them an actual chance to survive, for starters. and MAKE THEM TAKE IT.
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Comfykun
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EMUGOD
Feb 4 2008, 11:30 AM
Comfykun
Feb 4 2008, 11:22 AM
Aww no Dictators? But I already have a Vice Dictator, a defense minister, an Offense Minister, a leader for my secret police, and a general.

you where exactly who i had in mind when i made this post :P

You have hurt my feelings.
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Marine_Medic
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Comfykun
Feb 4 2008, 11:44 AM
EMUGOD
Feb 4 2008, 11:30 AM
Comfykun
Feb 4 2008, 11:22 AM
Aww no Dictators? But I already have a Vice Dictator, a defense minister, an Offense Minister, a leader for my secret police, and a general.

you where exactly who i had in mind when i made this post :P

You have hurt my feelings.

Can I still be the head of the secret police?
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Space Shuttle Door Gunner
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The native population isn't going to like this kind of shit even if it does benefit them. Slowly replacing them with westerners would be sorely needed.
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Manik
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I agree with the partial Dictatorship/Company Council, and whilst i agree with most of the fascism post i believe that will bring the rest of the world down apon us like a sledgehammer on a peanut.
Democracy is good, if only to prevent the UN from liberating our new nation of us, however we should limit who can vote. NOT on race, then they will hate us, education should be the primary factor, dumb whites can't vote smart whites can, dumb blacks can't smart blacks can.
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Manik
Feb 4 2008, 11:55 AM
I agree with the partial Dictatorship/Company Council, and whilst i agree with most of the fascism post i believe that will bring the rest of the world down apon us like a sledgehammer on a peanut.
Democracy is good, if only to prevent the UN from liberating our new nation of us, however we should limit who can vote. NOT on race, then they will hate us, education should be the primary factor, dumb whites can't vote smart whites can, dumb blacks can't smart blacks can.

uhh.

In africa, that would basically mean that only whites and a few blacks could vote. mabye after we set up a school system, or something. Anyone who had completed, say 10 years of schooling and was over x years could vote.
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senstarfire
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I, too, am all for democracy; yet that cannot be immediate. Zimbabwe, when it was released by the British, was a democracy. Look where that landed up. As soon as South Africa became a democracy, notice the presidents. Notice the ONLY ruling party, that recieves around 85% of the vote. A dictatorship/council at first, so we can make sure the country is set straight, and then democracy once it is. If anyone complains, we will just say we will. Eventually. (it has worked before)
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Gunnar
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i think democracy needs to be introduced gradually to those new to the concept.
as far as i know those stable democracy's we have today have a long history of democracy and went through a long adaptation process.
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General Stahlheim
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I agree with you, Gunnar. People have to learn the taste of democracy. You have to introduce them to the concept and show them, that it is way better, than some dictator who shits on human rights. But you have to make clear, that democracy comes with a lot of responsibility, or you'll have some regime back up in no time.
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nigger
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Please discard what your schools and popular medias told you about dictatorships. Do not write that off as an unreasonable possibility.

Dictators fail when they are totalitarian megalomaniacs or a corrupt House full of Americoliberals packed into a single person. While this has always unfortunately been the case, it need not be the case.

In fact, we may want to consider a dictatorial emergency regime for the inception of a new country, legislating away its power most definitely on a certain time. Of course, this requires the consent of the empowered just as well as any other system.

It's important in a dictatorial system to not act in-favor or over-reaching. If we believe that some part of Africa can be rejuvenated, what we're deciding is that the fail-people, mostly blacks, are as capable as any human to achieve the upper echelons of 'humanity'. We ought to treat it as such...and in a dictatorial system, that must be presented by 'freedom'.

Participatory dictatorship is sensible, if possible.

The whole idea of americo-republicanism is to provide 'rich white men' the power to veto bad ideas. Instead, they simply became corrupt and impotent. Perhaps this is remediable if we do not install absolute faith in democracy.
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Templar
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firstly i will say this, it is not meant to be racist although it really cant helped.

democracy does not work with black people.

there, ive said it. we all know it.

stick to a council. sure, say your gonna educate people so they can vote but DO NOT LET THEM VOTE.

it will just return to the fuckhole we will be dragging out of
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