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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 01:09 AM Post #1 |
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so I think we definitely use the mass roleblock. only thing I wonder is if me8 will know who used the mass roleblock. GRAVY: if we used a mass roleblock, would the psychic be informed who targeted him? but yeah, if we use the mass roleblock then I am NOT going to use my roleblock for obvious reasons, no need to. we can basically kill anyone we want this night, and not have to worry about protection so this is an important kill. i'm thinking we kill me8 if we need to stop him from revealing para used mass roleblock, or if not, then possibly Menu. both of them are also pretty active and somewhat on to us and thorns in our side. Ulti is doing well but not posting a bunch, we cna probably wait a little longer with him. if the masons have another action, i would think they would have menu use it instead of ulti, since menu is a bit more inconspicuous. Arti would be nice to kill if he's BG, but he's also not going to do a whole lot this game that we need to be scared of besides his bodyguard action. he's not going to rile up town to lynch us. we need to plan out who tange says he targets. i think we go with one of the claimed nillas and one of the confirmeds, probably arti. tange can say since he got yelled at for his last targets he targeted arti to protect him and a vanilla claim so no possibly powers could die, like how he got grilled for targetting IANH since he might be doctor. might be good to use death/para if we go with one of our own nilla claims, or should we not use any fellow scum members? idk. let's talk about it all and decide. I actually think we don't need to use any of tange's powers today. strongman is only really useful for taking out dj, which i'm not sure we need to do anytime soon. i'd rather get someone who matters today than dj, even if he is confirmed he has done literally nothing. he barely posted this day. the misdirect isn't really necessary either since it directs to IANH, and i don't think we kill him tonight since we might be able to lynch him. misdirect might be good the next night in case anyone scans tange though. |
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| Paratroopa | Nov 26 2014, 01:10 AM Post #2 |
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But the question is, is one of us SCUM Mason? (no) |
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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 01:11 AM Post #3 |
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i don't think it matters who sends the kill if everyone is blocked, but we can have death do it to be safe if we want. i have a bad feeling MI or puns or Spiral or someone is cop. but if we kill me8 the deputy, they have to reveal themselves with any scans. whereas with deputy, cop can stay quiet cause even if they die, deputy gets their scans and can then reveal themselves. really deputy + cop is super powerful and they better not have a cop or that's some bull. i'm really thinking we kill me8 tonight. |
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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 01:11 AM Post #4 |
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what are you talking about? |
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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 01:16 AM Post #5 |
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the kill all depends on 2 things. 1) Is there a cop hiding in the claims, or is deputy a meta trap? if there's a cop, me8 as a PSYcHIC deputy and possibly PSYCHIC COP is absurdly overpowered. you can't even block him cause he'll know who the scum is. ridiculous. and the cop can just hide knowing when he dies his results go to the deputy (which I think is dumb, results should die with the cop, makes it too over powered.) 2) does the psychic know who sent the mass roleblock? if so, we have to kill him. |
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| Paratroopa | Nov 26 2014, 01:20 AM Post #6 |
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I actually think I should SAVE the Mass Roleblock today. Tange is probably the most likely lynch tomorrow, if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. There seems to be a lot of doubt about him at the moment, people think there can't be that much protection (they're actually wrong, because Leo is RB! though maybe IANH really isn't doctor, I don't know), and Tange hasn't navigated the pressure brilliantly (no offense meant at all btw - Bus Driver is a potentially good but very tricky claim if you aren't rock solid about your motives). I don't seem to be on many peoples' scumlists, so unless I completely implode tomorrow I should be fine. I can save the Mass Roleblock for a rainy day. Tange, on the other hand, may not be able to save his Strongman kill. At this point, the Mass Roleblock, as far as I can tell, is basically a Strongman kill anyway. Are there even any roles to roleblock aside from protection roles and the psychic deputy who probably has no cop? It's possible there's still a scanning role deep undercover at this point, but I wonder. Even if they do still have a scanner, it might be better to let them use that scan today and let us know that they're there, since they're less likely to hit one of our more undercover players today than on a future date when the roles are narrowed down. After that there's the question of who we kill. We have to be CAREFUL here. A few strange seeds of paranoia about the "confirmed" townies got planted at the end of that discussion day, which is really interesting. I think dj makes the most sense if we use a strongman kill, since that's a nice one to get it out of the way (does roleblock block a bulletproof, i.e. let them be killed?). The thing about dj is that he hasn't been extremely active or helpful for town to this point, so he's high value in role but low value in actual value to town. me and arti are pretty much equally good kills at this point too I think. We don't want to run the risk of Arti ever successfully bodyguarding me813, and he might even try to do it today. We have several ways to get around this though so it's not hugely likely to become a risk. I am wondering if it is possible to sow more paranoia about the masons by not killing them, or killing one but leaving the other alive. I haven't really run the numbers, but I have no idea if it's even POSSIBLE to win the game without getting a mislynch on one of the "confirmed" townies, I have no idea if we have enough time or not. There's so many damn "confirmed" townies in this game right now that it feels like we need to get town to do the work for us on at least one of them. There is some paranoia for me that Ulti/Menu have more detective scans, but if that's true, then they're absurdly broken because you need to kill both of them, so fuck it, I think we're going to just have to trust that they don't have more. |
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| Paratroopa | Nov 26 2014, 01:21 AM Post #7 |
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I was just making fun of Corrik's post about there being a scum mason. |
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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 01:26 AM Post #8 |
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i don't want to take the chance that someone gets a guilty scan off today. hell even an innocent scan would ruin us, the last thing we need is more confirmed towns or near confirmed towns. what if they scan you para? then we're fucked. idk i get what you're saying but i don't like risking it. i don't think tange is necessarily the lynch tomorrow. plus if there is a mass roleblock, then i think the chance he gets lynched decreases. |
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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 01:27 AM Post #9 |
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i think there has been scum in masons before, but usually only if a mason recruiter recruits a scum i think. that or the mason recruiter dies if they try to recruit scum. idk. it's a remote possibility we could get menu/ulti lynched way down the line. but it's not very likely and i'm very paranoid that they have more abilities. ulti basically taunted scum, he seemed like he was faking and acting when he said he had no more abilities and scum would be wasting their time to kill him or menu. seemed like he was trying to had to cover it up to me |
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| Paratroopa | Nov 26 2014, 01:29 AM Post #10 |
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I actually think the odds of tange getting lynched tomorrow might increase if there's a mass roleblock. There's a possibility they'll think that scum couldn't have a roleblocker AND whatever the fuck I just did. of course, they're fucking wrong in advance, there's THREE roleblockers, but fuck town and their dumb strawman assumptions that I'm making up. on the other hand, if we don't use the mass roleblock, tange has to actually have pretended to do something. I don't know, I'm just thinking about wanting to make use of tange's strongman kill today and save the mass roleblock as a second strongman kill for later. It might help navigate around IANH's nonsense. Even if there is a scanning role out there, we don't have the faintest idea who it is (and if it's IANH somehow I don't want to kill him anyway), so they might still get scans off anyway. |
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