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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 07:49 AM Post #51 |
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it comes down to, is there a cop somewhere? if there's a cop somewhere hiding and we don't kill me8 ASAP we auto lose the game. as I said, if there's a hidden cop the hidden cop has NO REASON to come out AT ALL until he has multiple guilties, or until me8 dies. we kill me8, we force any hidden cops to claim if they have info and stop the bleeding. as it is now a cop could sit back and rack up scans, die, then pass them all on to me8 and then he says oh yeah, here's the whole scum team and here's MORE confirmed town. unless you guys really don't think there's a cop, then we could risk leaving me8 alive. but it's risky. i wouldn't put it past MI to be cop secretly, I DEFINITELY wouldn't put it past Spiral or Puns to secretly be cop. In fact, we should check out their flavor and see if it points to being cop instead of vanilla. Puns even taunted us, daring us to kill him or something. It felt extremely cocky and not at all like a town vanilla, tbh. Did Spiral or puns or MI do a complete 180 on anybody between day 1 and day 2? that could point to a potential innocent scan? I would think they'd claim if they had a guilty but who knows maybe knowing there's a deputy means they wouldn't. can anyone find what flavors the town vanillas are? I'd really like to double check their flavors for cop hints. |
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| Paratroopa | Nov 26 2014, 07:52 AM Post #52 |
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The only concern I have is that dj is just not lynchable unless we can link him and ulti, which is the longest of long shots. I sort of hate leaving people around who cannot be dealt with, even if they are not the most useful member of town. But other than that, I'm totally fine with doing this. If we use the Mass Roleblock, I think we must kill the Deputy, because that will force the Cop's hand instead of letting him hide without needing to do anything, if he's still out there somewhere. So that's a good plan. |
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| Paratroopa | Nov 26 2014, 07:54 AM Post #53 |
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Also, even if there is no cop, me813 is STILL a good kill, just because he's confirmed, and directly linked to Scare. Killing off a townie who was just confirmed by a scum lynch is pretty typical procedure. The ONLY problem with it is that it's so typical that it probably won't raise a lot of eyebrows in IANH/Ulti/whoever's direction, but we have to start killing off these confirmeds, no way around it. So yeah, me813 is proactive against a possible cop problem, and even though I don't think there's a cop, it's not exactly a risky kill to make because it's still a sensible kill. |
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| Paratroopa | Nov 26 2014, 07:56 AM Post #54 |
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Seriously, fuck me if there are any scanners or any other good power roles on the loose that could get hit by this roleblock, though. I REALLY think this mass roleblock is only going to function as basically a strongarm with the roles that exist now, but if by some damn chance it doesn't... |
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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 07:57 AM Post #55 |
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there are going to be other towns alive. yes dj would be nigh unlynchable, but ulti and menu are practically unlynchable too. arti is practically unlynchable. there's no real reason to kill dj over arti/ulti/menu, because they're basically unlynchable and are more useful. hell, i bet if it came down to final 3 mylo with dj, you could fake a quoted post and he would bite. he's new, he's easier to manipulate. no matter what we do, if we win, there are going to be some town alive. dj is just going to have to be one of them imo. or we can kill him later if tange lives a while. |
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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 07:58 AM Post #56 |
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i will not be the least bit surprised if ulti/menu have more power. a two man mason team only has one power? i don't buy it. I questioned them about it too, ulti said THEY used their power, that they had a shared power. I don't buy it, i've never really seen a shared power other than a night kill. powers are up to an individual to use, they are tied to a role. I think it's more likely that they both have powers or something. or they are mason cop/mason detective or something. |
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| scare | Nov 26 2014, 08:00 AM Post #57 |
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There is no sense in killing DJ the guy has like no voice, All he is is a pawn. Manipulate him to vote in our favor. He's fine. |
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| Paratroopa | Nov 26 2014, 08:00 AM Post #58 |
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Yeah, that's true. Even if we get down to final 3 and it comes down to dj picking the wrong guy to lynch, I would take that scenario right now in a heartbeat. Let's go ahead and go for the other confirmed town first. Unless something new comes up tomorrow I think Arti's the one to go for the day after, just on the crazy long shot that we might get some paranoia on Ulti/Menu - even a little bit would be great. Although killing off one mason and leaving the other alive would also be really funny. |
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| ScareChan | Nov 26 2014, 08:00 AM Post #59 |
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me8 isn't as confirmed as ulti/arti/menu. he COULD get mislynched potentially, ESPECIALLY if there's no cop. it's possible to write off his interaction with scare as two scum trying to confirm me8. i did a little bit of that earlier in the day. but does anyone have a list or know where the claims list with flavor names is? I really think it's key that we look into the vanilla claims and see if any of their flavors scream cop instead. or even ulti/menu/arti. |
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| scare | Nov 26 2014, 08:01 AM Post #60 |
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- Puns even taunted us, daring us to kill him or something. It felt extremely cocky and not at all like a town vanilla, tbh. - He may be aware we blocked him then. Did he suspect Tange today? |
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