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Topic Started: Nov 29 2014, 03:13 AM (378 Views)
ScareChan

kill puns? spiral? menu? ulti?

block puns? spiral? menu? ulti?

tange use misdirect to avoid scans/shots, or tange use strongman to get at spiral? idk.


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Paratroopa

let's use yours, we did last night

Arti - Seiji Yomogo - Guardian (Votestuffer Bodyguard)
Ash - Hotori Suzukage - Vanilla
Atma - Okuhiko Iida - Hated Townie
Damion - Sara Matsunaga - Vanilla
Death - Junichi Yomogi - Vanilla
IANH - Kali Utsumi - Vengeful Great Mother (Doctor)
Menu - Kokoro Fuyukawa - Mason (One-shot Detective/Vig/?)
MI - Lin Mayuzumi - Vanilla
Para - Takeshi Kuranari - Vanilla
Puns - Makoto Ishihara - Vanilla
Shad - Coco Yagami - Bulletproof
Spiral - Blick Winkel - Guardian Angel (Tracker/Watcher)
Tange - Kurumi Morino - Two-shot Bus Driver
Ulti - Satoru Yukidoh - Mason (One-shot Detective/Vig/?)

will think about this for a second
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Paratroopa

At first I was like "lol let's just kill puns, we're in trouble anyway and I just want to see town freak out at a weird kill" but I do actually think we have a chance to win so...

Still, if we still think he's cop, he is a great kill choice I think. Gets rid of the cop and throws town into complete disarray tomorrow. He is also not going to be saved, no way no how.

We still have our strongman kill luckily, so we could kill someone else if we want. If we want to target either Spiral or Arti we will want to use it.

I do not know if Spiral is actually capable of doing what he's saying - knowing whether or not Puns is cop would shed a lot of light on this. He probably has his flavor since he didn't accidentally claim something on our safelist, but what his role is, I don't know. He may be trying to draw a shot, although that's a poor plan since he's more likely to just draw a save and get roleblocked instead. Roleblocking Spiral and seeing what he does tomorrow may be a good maneuver, but it means Tange will actually have to come up with a real bus action that could have done something, so CAREFUL.

I think we leave Ulti and Menu alive after Ulti just hammered town.
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Paratroopa

long story short I think "shoot puns, roleblock spiral" is a good plan, but I want to talk about it more.
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Paratroopa

My biggest concern is that killing Puns still leaves a whopping freaking four "confirmed" town, which is arti, shad, ulti, menu. If not killing ulti and menu doesn't flip to them getting suspected at some point we're in deep trouble.
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ScareChan

that's my first thought, kill puns shoot spiral. i'm at the point where idgaf. killing puns is bizarre and would be fantastic, and since we're likely going to lose anyway, would be worth it.


part of me wants to block spiral and if he is a vanilla fake claiming, see if he says he got an action off or not. or if he'll lurk till all the other powers post to say he was blocked.

part of me wants to block menu/ulti since we know they have a power. ulti had an action the first night, then menu, so i'd think maybe they alternate and block ulti. if spiral is telling the truth, it's scary that he has a watch. scary that i would have to roleblock him and could get caught but oh well.

i sort of think he's telling the truth simply because death is specifically immune to being watched. if only we could have death kill someone who would be watched by spiral, but not saved by protection. and thus be 'confirmed' town.


but yeah im' thinking we just say fuck it and go for the home run, which is killing puns cop, blocking spiral, misdirect tange, say tange drove himself and ianh if caught, and hope menu shoots tange.
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ScareChan

i think we kill puns tonight, then maybe menu the next day, on the off chance he's scum and ulti can be easily lynched right after him. also if puns flips cop we might be able to get spiral lynched off that.
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ScareChan

basically like i said, killing puns is the high risk high reward option i think.
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ScareChan

oh wait, i was under the incorrect assumption that death was impervious to watcher/tracker, but i just checked and he's actually just roleblock proof and cop scan proof.

aka there's a cop and a roleblocker, one of which is leo, the other puns.

spiral is probably full of shit. maybe leave him unblocked and hit up ulti.
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Paratroopa

I wonder how Roleblocking even affects whatever the hell Ulti/Menu does, and how to even use it on them, if their thing is even real. When Ulti said that their third thing isn't as cool as a detective scan I actually believe him though.

Not roleblocking Spiral actually could be an option, but I think there is a chance that he is truthful.

Another possibility is not to use it at all and claim Tange was roleblocked again, but I have no idea how that goes over.
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