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Jimmy Cha; Juror #11
Topic Started: Feb 15 2018, 05:21:30 PM (109 Views)
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A topic for Jimmy Cha to ask his questions.
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Hey, sorry for not posting. I'm pretty busy the next few days, and the other finalists are asking most of the relevant questions.

Right now, tbh, the distinction between your games is minor enough that I'm tempted to just give my item to whoever is getting the fewest jury votes if it turns out lopsided. This is The Genius, not Survivor, and I'd prefer the ending to be a relatively even battle of strategic prowess rather than kissing up to the jury.

Also, please don't take this the wrong way, because you're both great people who played great games, but this is like the most boring FTC ever. :P "I love you so much!" "No, I love you more!" Where's the drama??? Right now, I'm not 100% sure either of you genuinely believes you deserve to be rewarded for your gameplay over the other, because you're too close.
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But a few general questions:

-What do you think is your biggest strength and biggest weakness as a Genius player? What do you think your opponent's biggest strength and biggest weakness are?

-Say you'd lost the F4 immunity and actually had a say in who you'd pick as your opponent. Honest rankings of who you'd have chosen?

-Who in this game would you say you've fucked over?

-Sangmin, are you saying your strategy wasn't to win matches so much as be positioned well if you lose, whereas Jinho, you're saying you just gave yourself 100% to the main matches all the time? What are your explanations for why Sangmin has more main match wins overall?

-Sangmin, I feel like you might have touched on this elsewhere, so sorry if this is making you repeat yourself, but what alliances did you have outside of Jinho and Gura? Jinho, a better question is who were you NOT allied with this game?

Possibly more later.
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Don't worry Jimmy! We expect your questions to take twice as long. ;) I'm so happy you're finally here for us to razzle! I'm not a dramatic person so it would have helped if you were the one bringing it here with me. Jinho and I aren't the kind of people to get into a big fight you know? But don't get me wrong. I don't want to end up with a consolation t-shirt and I'm looking forward to kicking his butt.

Hmm. I think my biggest strength is my outside the box thinking. Games will try to tell you how they think they should be played. They don't know themselves well half the time. :$ I really enjoyed how often we lost to win. There was an attitude about death matches, someone having to lose and be picked every round, people felt they had no control over it and just let whatever will be be. Like how impossible it is to control the tide. My strength is that I can see the way the tides are shifting and mitigate the damage before it hits. My biggest weakness? Honestly, try to keep this a secret but
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I think Jinho's biggest strength is he's versatile and works with anyone in a pinch. A good trait for The Genius! Coming up with a weakness is hard because I really don't think he's terrible. :( I wonder how he thought it would come off when he abandoned me in the middle of a game to work with Jiwon. I think that's inexperience with how interactions with one person affects others? Like it makes people think about why you're not on the radar and puts you there which is why I think you went after him so hard.

The F4 round gave me a heap of anxiety thinking about it. :( Jinho had just given a speech about how he couldn't pick me and you were making your points about getting him now before it was too late! It could have been better to confront him then instead of waiting until now like this. I don't know that I have that kind of betrayal in me.

I directly singled out Jiwon to fight me so I think that counts! I didn't frick over Yeonjoo on my own but I didn't say anything different when Sunggyu wanted to get her so I count that. There's little reason to pick people to suffer in a game like this so it's not like I banged around getting lots of people!

You pretty much got it in one Jimmy! I think it worked out that by looking to be a helpful worker bee I was in a good position to be there when the winning strategies were happening, so playing to be positioned well meant I was listened to and included in winning strategies. Most games were riggable by a majority so it's still a majority rules game!

Would you be shocked if I considered you my ally Jimmy? Do you realize how often we teamed together? You're like the little brother that only I am allowed to push into lockers and mess up your hair. I was also blessed with actually being able to have conversations with Sunggyu instead of him pretending to be afk like he did all the time and I think I was really low on his hit list. But like.. this wasn't a game that required seventeen contracted alliances like a boring social game. The game itself forced us to be open to teaming with whoever was convenient without prior agreement.
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Just don't assume I'm getting more items than Sangmin lol. I have a feeling I'm not getting as many as you may think.
Also, we're just saving our built in tension between us to release during our death matches where we're going to go apeshit on each other.

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-What do you think is your biggest strength and biggest weakness as a Genius player? What do you think your opponent's biggest strength and biggest weakness are?

My biggest strength was my adaptability and being able to work different situations to my advantage. I still think you may have been overstating just how good I was at talking to people, but I won't deny it went pretty well this game, and I'll throw in my social game as a strength.
My biggest weakness near the end was ironically something I gave you flak for at the beginning. By the end I wanted to keep too many people happy and it was never going to work, and probably ended up causing a bit of strain in different relations I had.

Sangmin's strength was his reliability. His biggest weakness was being more reactive than active at times. (I think this is the third time we had this question and I might have given a different strength and weakness every time lol. Depends on the time of day which attributes I remember)


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-Say you'd lost the F4 immunity and actually had a say in who you'd pick as your opponent. Honest rankings of who you'd have chosen?

You would have been first. Gura would have been second. Sangmin would have been my last choice. You first because we were rivals at this point and it would make no sense to target one of them before you. Gura before Sangmin because from what he'd been saying he seemed to be uncertain of his dm skills so I'd have the psychological intimidate factor, I think he'd get more items than Sangmin at the end, and because I just made a public profession of never sending Sangmin to the death match so it would be kind of weird to pick him at that point. (which honestly was really stupid to say. maybe throw in impulsiveness as a weakness of mine)

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-Who in this game would you say you've fucked over?

Depends on what you mean by that. Junghoon would probably be the only one where I feel like I actively screwed over.


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-Sangmin, are you saying your strategy wasn't to win matches so much as be positioned well if you lose, whereas Jinho, you're saying you just gave yourself 100% to the main matches all the time? What are your explanations for why Sangmin has more main match wins overall?

I don't think it's fair to say Sangmin has more main match wins, when immunity is pretty much the same thing. In which case we're tied. Two of our wins were joint. His win in fishing game was only because I directly chose for him to win by not submitting. He won food chain game as the chameleon when I couldn't as the snake so that's +1 for him but I think the snake was a harder role to win with.
In most of the ones Sangmin didn't win, I think I came closer to winning. And I had a couple rounds like round 2 and 5 and the final 4 where I won without Sangmin. In terms of main match prowess I think the results still favor me.

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-Sangmin, I feel like you might have touched on this elsewhere, so sorry if this is making you repeat yourself, but what alliances did you have outside of Jinho and Gura? Jinho, a better question is who were you NOT allied with this game?

Depends on what you mean by allied.
I was allied with Gura, Sangmin, Dongmin. Sunggyu I allied a lot with in the main matches. I was allied with you and Doohee for a bit, but Doohee got eliminated pretty quickly after that, and then I betrayed you the round after. I was kind of allied with Yeonjoo and Yohwan before they got eliminated. Wow, I guess that leaves Junghoon, Hongchul, Jiwon and Yoonsun. I worked with Hongchul and Jiwon once each in poker and prison escape. I never worked with Junghoon or Yoonsun.
Man, that looks pretty slimey actually that I was allied with so many people. I didn't intend to play a slimey game lol. It sort of just happened. I should really be embracing it. I mainly just wanted to play games with cool people, and I started making some nice connections from it.
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Jinho
Feb 17 2018, 04:46:13 AM
In most of the ones Sangmin didn't win, I think I came closer to winning. And I had a couple rounds like round 2 and 5 and the final 4 where I won without Sangmin. In terms of main match prowess I think the results still favor me.
I think our thoughts about main matches teeter a teensy bit about this point. The reward for coming closer to winning then someone else if you don't win is a heap of nothing burgers. No such thing as consolation ribbons in The Genius!
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Uh, it looks like I won't have time to follow up on any of these. I'll just say I think a weakness in Sangmin's game was maybe not reaching out enough to players like Jiwon and Sunggyu who were on the bottom, because this isn't Survivor where the most important thing is to have the numerical advantage--all that is ruined if the person sent to the death match targets you. Had Sunggyu been the F5 FM target, you might have been eliminated there. Meanwhile, I agree with Jinho--I think both his strength and his weakness was trying to be on everyone's good side (e.g., he started immediately downplaying his role in the Yeonjoo plan after he found out she was upset about it, and won't admit that Sunggyu was probably his third closest ally out of four alive).
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And I feel like if this were Survivor, I'd hold being willing to go to the end with Jinho against you, Sangmin. But you have less control here, and I'm the genius who went and won immunity with Jinho after telling you he needed to be eliminated. :P
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(But yeah, I had a strong feeling you were just pretending to agree with me at the F4 and refusing to take a stand on who you'd target so that I wouldn't target you.)

Actually, point in Sangmin's favour is I think his interactions with me were pretty well done, since he played a large part in convincing me it was safe for me to work with the trio alliance with his social game. I can also respect you took a stand during the prison game rather than just going with the flow and letting me be eliminated.
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Typical Jimmy posting after deadline! I had to ask if I could give you one last follow up. Good thing we're not on live rounds.

If you had picked Sunggyu instead of Jinho I would have been in a pickle! But you picked the person who was most likely to give you your ideal match instead. Siding with you and Gura seemed to work out well for me!

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(But yeah, I had a strong feeling you were just pretending to agree with me at the F4 and refusing to take a stand on who you'd target so that I wouldn't target you.)

No, I figured you thought this because it's what you would have done. If you had coordinated with me in the Main Match I woulda tried to win with you. You were just too sketched out by the possibilities to try!

I wasn't committing because I had to think about what you were saying. You and me would be a zany final and I wanted it! You gotta consider though! Even if going against Jinho now is hard, would going against you be any better for me if I had to become the icon of betrayal to get there? That's what I was weighing in my head. Either way it woulda worked great for Jimmy!
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