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| The Official Katy Perry Thread; New album "Witness" | |
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| Topic Started: May 12 2010, 08:39 PM (14,799 Views) | |
| thesmu | Aug 3 2013, 08:22 AM Post #401 |
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She's done 'dark' visual imagery like wide awake and ET though. Even Part of Me as much is it makes me want to set fire to my tv is definitely a stab at bring 'serious'. Judging from that trailer I'm expecting something more like the former though. Actually doesn't that video start with her in the dressing room of the California Girls video taking off her wig and going all goth? She has a few tougher songs too - Circle The Drain is one if my favourite of her songs - but in all honesty I can't see the lead being anything other than a big pop song even if it is an 'angry' or edgy one like ET or some of Ke$ha's songs.. I can't help getting the horrible vibe that her and Gaga are both doing a 'stripping off the old image and going back to basics' thing which gives me the fear. Having them both release at the same time is bad enough but if there are similarities in their visuals it will be intolerable
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| Vancho | Aug 3 2013, 08:17 PM Post #402 |
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Seeing YouTube comments like "Stop fighting, Little Monsters love Katy" makes me wonder how many of these people have lives
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Aug 4 2013, 04:53 PM Post #403 |
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Fuck I tried listening to Teenage Dream and for every Last Friday Night there's an utterly unlistenable Peacock, Circle the Drain or Pearl. No wonder she doesn't shift albums, they're full of shit filler. |
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| Beautiful Stranger | Aug 4 2013, 05:31 PM Post #404 |
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She has the same album selling power as Gaga. BTW and TD both finished with over 2 million scanned in the US, with Katy having a 200,000+ advantage. While Katy had a re-release and more singles over 400,000 of BTW's sales came from $.99 downloads during release week. |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Aug 4 2013, 07:05 PM Post #405 |
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With 8 #1 hits and a re-release? It's like the Navy comparing Rihanna and her 20 albums in 2 years with Beyonce. They're just not in the same league. Are you going to call her the female MJ next
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| Vancho | Aug 4 2013, 07:16 PM Post #406 |
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Maybe in the US. A lot of people outside the US haven't heard of Katy Perry. In Europe: One of the Boys — Platinum Teenage Dream — Platinum The Fame — 2× Platinum The Fame Monster — 3× Platinum Born This Way — Platinum |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Aug 4 2013, 07:38 PM Post #407 |
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In any case, my point before the numbers nazi came in was that she has some amazing singles, but her album is so patchy. Some of that weird riot grrl faux rock chick stuff is brutal. |
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| Vancho | Aug 4 2013, 07:42 PM Post #408 |
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| Beautiful Stranger | Aug 4 2013, 10:21 PM Post #409 |
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You're delusional if you think the average record buyer thinks there's much of a difference between Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. |
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| FuckBuddy | Aug 4 2013, 11:22 PM Post #410 |
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american teenagers may rate them both on an equal scale - how on earth would i know, i'm neither american nor a teenager. however, gaga's certainly regarded as way more credible and a far more genuine popstar in europe, for instance, and i'm sure globally, too. katy perry brought absolutely nothing to the game, she's just a manufactured brainless cow who got lucky. there's nothing interesting about her music or personality. given her lack of charisma and talent, it's actually pretty astounding she's gone that far. yes, her album did sell over two million in america, but then justin timberlake has probably outsold her on the back of just two hits whereas she needed like a zillion top ten hits and two freakin years to achieve the same feat. katy perry, just like rihanna, is your typical itunes prime act. people cherry pick her songs cause they don't wanna risk buying the entire album. she will never EVER become an album artist cause her music and herself are bland, void and, well, crap really. have i mentioned before i'm disgusted by her utter lame existence? cause if i have, sorry for repeating this again. Edited by FuckBuddy, Aug 4 2013, 11:25 PM.
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| thesmu | Aug 4 2013, 11:25 PM Post #411 |
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Sadly this is true. I feel oddly defensive of Katy in these kind of conversations. I absolutely despise her and could write *essays* about why but I'm not blinded by that when it comes to recognising that she is immensely popular and that a good tune is a good tune. I also find her albums patchy (though I like two of the three songs Gimmie referred to) but there are very few pop albums that aren't, it's par for the course. If I like more than half of most pop releases I consider it a triumph. Gaga is an exception to that for me, that's why she's my fave, but don't think for a minute everyone feels that way. Born This Way was a pretty polarising album and most casual fans I know don't like it top to toe either. I don't know what I'm trying to say here really - not that Katy is better than Gaga, that's for sure - just that I don't think it's a one horse race by any stretch. |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Aug 5 2013, 04:42 AM Post #412 |
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Just because the average record buyer is an idiot, it doesn't mean you have to be. Or does it? |
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| Vancho | Aug 5 2013, 05:22 AM Post #413 |
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Well, Katy Perry does sell as successfully as Gaga in the US, so BS's point about the average buyer is right. On the other hand, I think most of us agree that Gaga makes better songs/videos/etc. |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Aug 5 2013, 06:41 AM Post #414 |
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What does the average record buyer have to do with anything except for people that don't have the intellect/taste level to form their own opinions and are obsessed with record sales and box office gross? If something is good to you, it's good, other people's opinion (much less AMERICAN AUDIENCES) has no bearing. Although if one was thus inclined (ie autistic as well) they could argue that Gaga and Perry shifting the same amount of albums with the discrepancy in success they had in their last eras and Gaga slaying it with the concert tickets shows that even AMERICAN audiences know who the artist and who the puppet is. But again, you'd have to be autistic to get into that conversation. |
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| thesmu | Aug 5 2013, 07:32 AM Post #415 |
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Um I think the point is that some of us were having a conversation about Katy's *selling* power or otherwise. I don't think anyone here decides whether they like a song based on charts it's just speculative conversation since the two artists are releasing at the same time. |
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| Anastasia Beaverhausen | Aug 5 2013, 10:25 AM Post #416 |
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If you like Gaga for her music, and dont care about her charting well, don't ask questions like 'Is Katy a threat to Gaga?'. It looks otherwise then. |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Aug 5 2013, 10:34 AM Post #417 |
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Well if you looked at the post RIGHT AFTER that one, I'm completely resigned to the fact that Gaga will never be the commercial power she used to be and that Katy will completely overtake her, at least in the singles area, because she gives people exactly what they want. That doesn't mean people don't know Gaga is the better artist though, if anyone cares what 'people' want. |
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| Anastasia Beaverhausen | Aug 5 2013, 10:52 AM Post #418 |
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Yeah, read this. It looks like I've gotten myself in stan wars. I wish we dont. It would be fun to watch charts in august anyway, and I think Gaga is way more superior pop girl than Katy, and deserve no1. Also I wish Katy has something interesting up her sleeve. |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Aug 5 2013, 10:54 AM Post #419 |
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Oh God I hope we don't have Katy stans here, it would be even sadder than Beautiful Stranger constantly sticking his oar in to antagonize me. |
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| Anastasia Beaverhausen | Aug 5 2013, 11:04 AM Post #420 |
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I would never ever thought that I would like a Rihanna album. |
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