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The official Christina Aguilera thread; New album in 2018
Topic Started: Jan 8 2008, 04:23 PM (22,120 Views)
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Lotus is expected to debut at #15 with 12-15 000 copies sold in the UK
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She's really giving Tranet a run for her money in the floptacular diva stakes!
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Nov 14 2012, 11:06 AM
I'm LOVING this :clap:
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Nov 14 2012, 11:20 AM
Lotus is expected to debut at #15 with 12-15 000 copies sold in the UK
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Bionic did 24,000.

Keeps Gettin' Better indeed.
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She's steady at #5 on US iTunes though
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Beautiful performance, and she's looking fine!
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75-80k expected in the US.

She's done.
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Some Xtina loons are saying it's tanking because she didn't promote enough. Now other Xtina loons are trying to excuse her not promoting enough since that is being blamed for her floppage. Here is one such comment from Pulse:

"Uh, Christina is focused on her artistry, first and foremost, thank you. True artistes don't pimp out their product. Did Pablo Picasso sit around thinking about the sale price of his paintings? Methinks not."
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Nov 15 2012, 02:53 AM
Some Xtina loons are saying it's tanking because she didn't promote enough. Now other Xtina loons are trying to excuse her not promoting enough since that is being blamed for her floppage. Here is one such comment from Pulse:

"Uh, Christina is focused on her artistry, first and foremost, thank you. True artistes don't pimp out their product. Did Pablo Picasso sit around thinking about the sale price of his paintings? Methinks not."
Actually this makes sense to me. An artist should not be valued for the number of units he/she sells, therefore there is no need really for pushing the product to the market.
Unless of course the artist sings a contract and the contractor expects a profit
One thing is loving the artist, another thing is loving how the artist is marketed
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Nov 15 2012, 02:53 AM
Some Xtina loons are saying it's tanking because she didn't promote enough. Now other Xtina loons are trying to excuse her not promoting enough since that is being blamed for her floppage. Here is one such comment from Pulse:

"Uh, Christina is focused on her artistry, first and foremost, thank you. True artistes don't pimp out their product. Did Pablo Picasso sit around thinking about the sale price of his paintings? Methinks not."
Actually this makes sense to me. An artist should not be valued for the number of units he/she sells, therefore there is no need really for pushing the product to the market.
Unless of course the artist sings a contract and the contractor expects a profit
And every recording act anyone gives two shits about is under contract.

The ridiculousness of that comment comes from him comparing Xtincta to Picasso, and implying she's about the ART when in fact she just released the most by-the-numbers mainstream pop album possible.
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Nov 15 2012, 02:53 AM
"Uh, Christina is focused on her artistry, first and foremost, thank you. True artistes don't pimp out their product. Did Pablo Picasso sit around thinking about the sale price of his paintings? Methinks not."
:lmao:

the funniest part is that yes Picasso was very into money, I bet he did think about it. So I guess he's not as artistic as Floptina :lmao:
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Christina is an indie artist now
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yeah like cyndi lauper
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So, to my utter surprise I rather like Lotus. It's very much a half shit, half good affair for me but I'm like that with most pop albums to be honest. So far I'm loving Lotus Intro, Army of Me, Cease Fire, Just a Fool,Light Up The Sky and Shut Up.
Circles is unfathomably enjoyable.
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The Picasso comparison was not needed, but the comment is right. Lotus is a good album that takes a shit on Take Me Home, but it's hard to explain to 13-year old girls what's good music and what's not, so One Direction is #1 on iTunes now.
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Nov 15 2012, 06:43 PM
The Picasso comparison was not needed, but the comment is right. Lotus is a good album that takes a shit on Take Me Home, but it's hard to explain to 13-year old girls what's good music and what's not, so One Direction is #1 on iTunes now.
Oh please, it's not like One Direction are outselling Bob Dylan this week. There is no fundamental difference between Lotus and Take Me Home. They're both phoned-in pop releases.
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There is no fundamental difference between Lotus and Take Me Home.
I think Lotus is dramatically better. Take Me Home is a lot more generic.

And it's no surprise that charts don't make much sense these days. Toxic was one of the most novel pop songs of the 00s (accompanied by a killer video too) and it never reached #1. Instead, Usher's utter drivel, Yeah! did.
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the truth is, the album is lacking promotion. the single was released almost two months ago and yet there's been no tv performance of it. given your body proved not to be the big comeback hit, there was enough time for a second single to come out prior to the album launch. as things have turned out a killer ballad needs to be sent to radio immediately.
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Entertainment Weekly on her continuing floppage...

Why isn't Christina Aguilera selling more albums?

The release of her new album Lotus was supposed to be a glorious victory lap for Christina Aguilera. After the dual duds of 2010′s critical and commercial failures Bionic and Burlesque, the once-platinum-plated pop star set out to reinvent herself: She divorced her husband of five years, became a coach on the hit series The Voice, and recommitted herself to her music.

Only part of that plan seems to be working for her. While her visibility factor is way up thanks to the big ratings for The Voice, it’s still bad news at the cash register. Final numbers won’t be in until next week, but right now, album sales tracking service Hits Daily Double is currently projecting Lotus will sell somewhere between 75 and 80 thousand copies in its opening week.

Even if that prediction ends up being on the low side, it’ll still be hard to spin those numbers positively. Bionic was considered a commercial debacle but still moved six figures in its opening frame (selling 110,000 copies out of the gate). What’s worse is that Aguilera’s is projected to finish well behind next generation pop stars One Direction (who will sell well over 500,000 copies of Take Me Home, their second album released this year) and indie R&B darling The Weeknd (who is essentially selling a series of albums that were given away for free online a year ago). Any way you look at it, the results are rough.
But if The Voice is such a hit and the material on Lotus is crafted by the same people who send the likes of Taylor Swift, Nicki Minaj, and Pink to the top of the charts, what is stopping people from buying this new album?

The studio talent is certainly there. Lotus features contributions from Max Martin, Shellback, Alex Da Kid, Supa Dups, Claude Kelly, and Lucas Secon, all of whom have had massive hits with a number of pop stars. But despite its pedigree, the Martin/Shellback entry “Your Body,” the album’s first single, is currently languishing in the lower reaches of the Hot 100. Does that mean those A-list names didn’t bring their A-list material to the table? Let’s put it another way: If Christina had recorded Taylor Swift’s “We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together,” would it have been a smash for her?

If the answer is “No,” then perhaps Aguilera carries too much cultural baggage with her. Her personal style has always been a hot topic of conversation, she often fails to come across as particularly likable in interviews, and earlier this year got into a very silly media feud with the lads from the Wanted. But plenty of other pop stars do those same things and manage to get away with it. In fact, in the case of Pink and Minaj, those shoot-from-the-hip moments have arguably made them more popular than they have ever been.

Are people simply tired of Aguilera? The Voice has helped her regain much of the cultural cache she lost in the latter half of the aughts, but does that also mean that it has fulfilled the average Xtina quota? Stars have gotten mixed results from their involvement in reality shows. Among the other judges on The Voice, only Adam Levine has had a true chart-topping hit since he took his place in his spinny chair.

Aguilera’s counterparts on American Idol haven’t done much better;Jennifer Lopez got a bit of a singles bump but little else, and Steven Tyler couldn’t parlay his run into success for Aerosmith (whose first original album in 11 years sold a paltry 65,000 copies in its opening week). Still, Aguilera is on television weekly right now, and you would think that she’d be able to convert more than one half of one percent of that show’s audience into album buyers.

Whatever the reason, Lotus feels like the sad trombone at the end of this comeback trail for Aguilera. But what do you think? Why isn’t Lotus doing bigger business? Is it the styling? The shouting? Or something else?

http://music-mix.ew.com/2012/11/15/christina-aguilera-lotus-album-sales/
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