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| Fresh violence erupts in London | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 8 2011, 10:40 PM (918 Views) | |
| Riverwide | Aug 8 2011, 10:40 PM Post #1 |
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Violence has broken out for a third consecutive day in London, with riot police deployed and firefighters tackling blazes across the capital. Shops were looted and buildings, among them a furniture store in Croydon, set alight as police clashed with youths. Trouble first flared on Saturday after a peaceful protest in Tottenham over the fatal shooting of a man by police. The prime minister is returning early from holiday to chair a meeting of the government's emergency committee Cobra. David Cameron, who is on holiday in Italy, was due to board a flight on Monday night ahead of a meeting with Home Secretary Theresa May and Acting Metropolitan Police Commissioner Tim Godwin on Tuesday. A government spokesman said the prime minister has been monitoring the situation on "an hourly basis". Mounted police Monday's violence started in Hackney after a man was stopped and searched by police but nothing was found. There were also fears trouble may spread further afield as police in riot gear were deployed in Birmingham city centre after scores of youths rampaged through the shopping area, smashing windows and looting from shops. Meanwhile: Cars were set on fire in Lewisham A bus and shop were set alight in Peckham Several fires broke out in Croydon, including one at a large furniture shop which spread to neighbouring buildings and tram lines In Hackney police 200 riot officers with dogs and mounted police were located around Mare Street where police cars were damaged Looters raided a Debenhams store and a row of shops in Lavender Hill in Clapham In Birmingham, police said officers had made 35 arrests, including six juveniles, on Monday evening Buses were diverted as the violence spread to Bromley High Street There were reports of looting of phone shops in Woolwich High Street, in south London, and a torched police car Shops and restaurants were damaged in Ealing, west London, and there was a fire in Haven Green park opposite Ealing Broadway Tube The fresh violence prompted Mr Godwin called on parents to contact their children and urged the public to clear London's streets. Groups of people began attacking the police in Hackney at about 16:20 BST, throwing rocks and a bin at officers. Police cars were also smashed by youths armed with wooden poles and metal bars. Looters also smashed their way into shops, including a JD Sports store, before being dispersed by police. Planks of wood taken from a lorry were then hurled towards lines of riot officers. Violence has broken out in Peckham, south London, where a shop and a bus were set on fire. In a lane off Mare Street the wreckage of a burnt-out car still smoulders, surrounded by riot police. At least for now, the violence in this half of London seems to have abated. I was talking to one young man who had received on his BlackBerry a list of places where he said there will be further trouble tonight. He didn't tell me which places and stressed it is speculation. But he and a friend told me frustration with poverty in the area was boiling over. On Mare Street there is the sound of crunching as police vans run over broken glass. Much of it from a bottle bank which was overturned providing makeshift missiles for rioters who lobbed the bottles at police. In nearby Lewisham, a number of vehicles and a trail of bins were set on fire. At least 215 people have been arrested and 25 charged following the riots across London over the last two days. In Birmingham City Centre looters have attacked several shops, smashing windows and stealing items. An eyewitness said windows have been smashed in McDonalds and Jessops near Birmingham Cathedral and a sign has been thrown through a gym window. London's mayor Boris Johnson is cutting short his holiday to return to the city. Home Secretary Theresa May also returned early from holiday, to meet Metropolitan Police (Met) chiefs to discuss their response to the violence. Mrs May condemned the riots as "sheer criminality" and said those responsible would "face the consequences of their actions". The trouble follows two nights of violence over the weekend which started after police shot a man dead in Tottenham. Mrs May said: "The riots in Tottenham on Saturday night and the subsequent disturbances in other parts of London are totally unacceptable." A peaceful protest in Tottenham on Saturday over the fatal shooting by police of Mark Duggan, 29, was followed by violence which spread into Sunday. A candlelit vigil was due to be held at The High Cross in Tottenham on Monday evening. Met Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh said there were "significant resources" on the streets, with a third more officers on duty than on Sunday. He said: "What we can see is that the Metropolitan Police are getting police officers there in numbers. "When we have large numbers of criminals intent on that type of violence, we can only do that, get lots of officers there quickly and try to protect local businesses and local people." He also admitted relations with the family of the man shot dead by police could have been handled better. Mr Kavanagh said: "I want to apologise to the Duggan family because I think both the IPCC (Independent Police Complaints Commission) and the Metropolitan Police could have managed that family's needs more effectively." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248 |
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| Riverwide | Aug 8 2011, 10:41 PM Post #2 |
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I hope that all of our London members stay safe. They need to get the army in now to sort out these IMBECILES. |
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| Deelightful Bitch | Aug 9 2011, 02:04 AM Post #3 |
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I hope you guys from London are okay. They need a dose of reality. |
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| engin | Aug 9 2011, 07:25 AM Post #4 |
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I think you forgot the reason why this started. Putting in the army will only make it worse |
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| Riverwide | Aug 9 2011, 09:47 AM Post #5 |
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There is no "reason" for any of this. The police shot a guy who was a known criminal who they believed had a gun. And somehow that gives cretins the right to go and destrpy their own communities, trash businesses, steal from shops? They aren't doing this for a cause. It's just mindless thugs going on a rampage for absolutely no reason other than the sheer love of violence and to rob some new phones. They are pathetic beyond belief. Sending in the army would absolutely end this situation. |
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| engin | Aug 9 2011, 11:43 AM Post #6 |
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I'd say let them steal shoes and cell phones! Why should only the rich get what they want while the government holds the huge majority of the people down and we never get out of the financial bracket we were born in. Let them burn shit down, whatever the fuck we have to do to make people realize that this can't go on this way |
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| engin | Aug 9 2011, 12:00 PM Post #7 |
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I don't care what anyone thinks. The older I get, the more I see the news, the more I start to hate the world we live in. I even have started to sympathise with the anti-capitalists here in Amsterdam, which I once used to find annoying. If this is how the world wakes up then so be it. |
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| johnnox | Aug 9 2011, 12:09 PM Post #8 |
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So you are saying it's right to.... * Smash the hell out of busses with terrified people on board * Set fire to independent shops run by the same family for five generations * Strip people naked on the streets to steal their clothes * Ruin potential investment in communities, which provide jobs * Destroy businesses on a whim * Put more lives at risk torching buildings where people live above shops? * Attack police with bricks, firebombs and batons I could go on. It's a good job you don't care what people think of you, because I think you're an absolute fucking idiot. If you hate this world so much, nobody's forcing you to stay. |
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| engin | Aug 9 2011, 12:30 PM Post #9 |
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This is how the world works. You think I'm happy with what is happening there? Hundreds of thousands of people are dying at this very moment in Sudan and Somalia because we are too greedy and have no strategic interest there, millions of people have died because of our hunger for oil. Where were you then? And now that it's happening right in the middle of us all of a sudden you condemn every single thing that happens. No wonder the world is so fucked the proof is right here. Prejudice, selfish, weak bitches whining about their dirty streets. But who is gonna clean up the trash? The same people that tore it down, minimum wage workers. Maybe it should be left there as reminder of what can happen when government fucks with the people. And stop calling me an idiot. |
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| Pera | Aug 9 2011, 01:04 PM Post #10 |
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That person who happened to be on that bus that day is in no way responsible for what's happening in Sudan What if you were there ? These sort of attacks won't make people more open-minded about issues in the world, it will just make them more ignorant, cautious and there will be more prejudice... The world as bad as it may look sometimes, was never in a better shape... Edited by Pera, Aug 9 2011, 01:05 PM.
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| Beautiful Stranger | Aug 9 2011, 02:36 PM Post #11 |
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Rich people don't shop in the stores that are being looted. You don't have to be rich to buy Nikes and cellphones. I have a cellphone and I buy Puma sneakers, far nicer than any of that ghetto crap Nike puts out, even though I only work retail. These people aren't pillaging Cartier and Louis Vuitton, they're ripping apart their own stomping grounds. And even then, rich people should be the only ones that get what they want because they are the ones than can afford to get whatever they want. There will always be poor people, there simply are not enough high paying jobs to make everybody rich. That's just how it works. It doesn't give people the right to be deviants, you just have to play the cards that life has dealt you. Like I said I only work retail for the time being and can't buy all the ridiculous shit I want, but so be it. You don't see me robbing banks and gas stations just because my mother doesn't always have her prescriptions (we don't have universal healthcare here) or because I still don't have money saved to get though college. My mother and I are in quite a bad way because of some stuff that happened almost 10 years ago now, we still haven't clawed our way out of it. And guess what? I was never even sent to the office in school, let alone arrested. |
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| Beautiful Stranger | Aug 9 2011, 02:43 PM Post #12 |
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I honestly don't give a flying fuck what happens to people in the Middle East and Africa as they're all stupid, violent and bigoted assholes. They'd have me beheaded simply because I'm gay, even if I went over there for charitable activities. South Africa is literally the only decent country in those two regions of the world. Why should I give a fuck if they keep blowing each other up and having kids they can't afford to raise? Let them eliminate themselves, it will be one huge burden on the civilized world GONE, and would help this planet's desperate overpopulation crisis. Useless people being hurt by other useless people doesn't compare to this situation in London. |
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| TickTock | Aug 9 2011, 03:31 PM Post #13 |
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I Fckt Riverwide N Da Azz Real Hard Again
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These riots are not political. Let a chav sum it up for you: http://audioboo.fm/boos/434411-leana-hosea-speaks-to-croydon-looters-on-bbcworldservice Here she is: ![]() ![]() Candid video of British "police force": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4pcbiO4flY&feature=youtu.be ![]() Britain sure loves its riots. Not shocking how so many terrorists are stationed in Britain. Terror cells all over the place. Even the Norwegian shooter wrote his manifesto in London. Can't wait for the 2012 Olympics! |
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| TickTock | Aug 9 2011, 03:38 PM Post #14 |
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I Fckt Riverwide N Da Azz Real Hard Again
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Robbed of their clothes.
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| johnnox | Aug 9 2011, 07:00 PM Post #15 |
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Absolutely not. While you spout such crap and such heartlessness at the situation, I have no intention of stop calling you what you are. |
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| engin | Aug 9 2011, 07:14 PM Post #16 |
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And what do you think is the reason that these people end up in those extremist religious groups and end up blowing up themselves? Because they have a beautiful life ahead of them? Those people have nowhere to turn than those religious groups were they at least get some help in education or even food supplies. Them living in poverty is the result of hundreds of years of western intervention. Try not to be so ignorant and try to see things in a bigger picture. I would think a board full of gays who are victims of discrimination itself would not be so quick to judge other groups so quickly. |
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| engin | Aug 9 2011, 07:30 PM Post #17 |
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The world needs changing even if these people are fucking morons without a cause, at least they're not afraid to make some noise. They're the ones who will survive when riots go worldwide. They don't need to understand every political bullshit detail, heck they even can't when a higher education is more than 10000 pounds a year, this country has opportunities for everyone my ass. They know somethings wrong when they can't even pay the rent for their houses or food they need to eat. And how can anyone shame violent behavior, i do believe violence is what shaped the world. Tens of millions of people got killed on this continent not even a 100 years ago, people are still dying all over the Middle East with this modern day colonialism. Get your heads out of the peace and love muck, because that isn't going to get us anywhere. I know it may not seem from my responses but I wish these people took that energy to feed homeless and do better than hurting people, I'm just saying people shouldn't be so shocked. People should be educated, and know whats coming. Not hiding all scared. Maybe I'm a stupid young one who doesn't know anything about the world or who should keep his mouth shut but I'm still young and not ready to admit defeat to the status quo and i applaud anyone who is doing anything different than what we're "supposed" to be doing. |
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| Riverwide | Aug 9 2011, 08:41 PM Post #18 |
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Engin, you really are making a SPECTACULAR fool out of yourself. I'm literally mortified for you. I suppose you think you're being "cool" by supporting a bunch of thugs who would rob from you and your family without a second thought. Not even a care in the world for the men and women who are risking their lives in the police forces, fire brigades and hospitals every day trying to clear the streets of these subhuman scum. Not to mention the ordinary, decent, hard-working people whose lives are being made a misery and who are being terrified by the pond life. I really am just shaking my head at the utter shit you're coming out with. You really are coming across like a very, VERY ignorant, selfish person who doesn't have even the SLIGHTEST clue what's going on. |
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| thesmu | Aug 9 2011, 09:22 PM Post #19 |
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So disgusting
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I'm a bit of a |
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| FuckBuddy | Aug 10 2011, 01:16 AM Post #20 |
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this whole situation in london is so frighteningly reminiscent to what happened over here about two years ago. it was early december 2009 when a teenager was shot dead by a police officer and then the worst riots i have ever witnessed took place. the same situation as in london: properties burned, people stealing shops they were crashing first. i remember getting out of home a couple of days later - cause nobody dared to do so meanwhile- walking across the main streets of the city centre and seeing just ruins everywhere. all people walking around me looked scared, it was like a movie scene we never thought it could actually become true. it really was the start of an end. a year later, it was revealed to all citizens the country was about to bunkrupt and everything about what we thought the future could bring was set to drastically change for the worse. ever since, the rates of unemployment have doubled, we are obliged to pay ridiculously high taxes and the greeks as a nation are ridiculed everywhere, any trace of national pride has actually evaporated and it wasn't even the citizens' fault to begin with. so now britain experiences a quite similar situation. it's just the case of the virus spreading over. sorry for being cynical, yet those two last years made me so. there's no excuse for ruining people's properties and lives, actually it's quite a shocking phenomenon. too bad it might be a phenomenon we should get used to. |
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