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| Topic Started: Dec 31 2007, 08:02 PM (16,724 Views) | |
| Anastasia Beaverhausen | Nov 12 2012, 11:41 AM Post #761 |
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I just don't agree on tuneless part. I get many hate urban. But songs #7 - #15 excl.#12 and #13 (the amazing raggie one) plus #2 - all have untimately pop appeal also, and all pop tunes are there. Thats's ~50/50 unrban/pop proportion of the album, not 10/90. just to correct you. The fun part is that many songs here are mixed pop/urban, which is just great and very Rihanna. |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Nov 12 2012, 12:43 PM Post #762 |
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When I lay in bed I touch myself and I think of you
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Rihanna WISHES |
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| Riverwide | Nov 12 2012, 08:37 PM Post #763 |
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The MTV review of the new album: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1697202/rihanna-unapologetic-album-review.jhtml Rihanna's Unapologetic: Defiant Doesn't Do It Justice Bigger Than the Sound takes a closer look at Rihanna's seventh album, on which her personal life becomes incredibly public. For better or worse, how you end up feeling about Rihanna's Unapologetic album will probably come down to one question: How do you feel about Rihanna? Are you in awe of her work ethic, which, at this point, is verging on superhuman (seven albums in seven years is certainly nothing to sneeze at), or have you grown tired of her constant presence in the public eye? Do you think she's shocking, or is she rehashing every salacious moment from the past 30 years of pop? And ultimately, how do you feel about her rekindled relationship with Chris Brown, which may or may not actually be real, but certainly has garnered no shortage of media attention in recent months? That last question is perhaps the most important, because whether she intended it or not, Rihanna's on-again/off-again romance with Brown seems to be the biggest inspiration behind Unapologetic, coloring each of its 14 tracks in some way — or, in the case of their duet "Nobodies Business," completely — imbuing the ballads (and there are a lot of them) with a sanguine sadness and the booming club tracks with a defiant swagger. It is, without question, Rihanna's most personal album to date, not to mention her most complex, both emotionally and sonically. Though for all the questions it raises, you don't have to look very far to figure out how Rihanna herself feels about all this: It's written right there on the cover. Yes, Unapologetic is certainly the most aptly titled album in recent memory. From the rattling electro whomp of tracks like "Fresh Out the Runway" and "Numb" (a stony, snake-charmer jam featuring a killer contribution from Eminem) to the "I choose to be happy" sentiments of first single "Diamonds," Rihanna does things her way, defiantly so. "Jump" and "Right Now" embrace the hard-revving rave-ups and knotty bass lines of dubstep with mixed results (the former, on which she bites lines from Ginuwine's "Pony," is particularly great, while the latter could do with a little less David Guetta); "No Love Allowed" is a lilting, island-tinged tune that recalls Desmond Dekker's "Israelites"; and the handful of ballads — "Stay," "Get It Over With," "Love Without Tragedy," to name a few — pile on the piano with aplomb. Shoot, she even decided to name a track "Loveeeeeee Song," mostly because Jay-Z told her to. But the most Unapologetic moment is unquestionably "Nobodies Business," her duet with Brown. It will almost certainly be the focal point of every review of the album, and justifiably so. When it was played Friday night at the 40/40 Club, the crowd — made up of assorted media types and a large contingent of Rihanna's Navy — responded with loud approval, clearly showing which side of the debate they're on. And yet, depending on your personal feelings about their unrepentant love, hearing the two coo lines like "You'll always be my boy, I'll always be your girl" and "Your love is infectious, let's make out in this Lexus" is slightly disappointing. Which is why how you feel about Rihanna herself will probably determine how you feel about Unapologetic. It goes beyond mere music and raises no shortage of questions about the complexities of love (or lust) and life in the public eye. If you support Rihanna and her decisions, then you will no doubt delight in delving into the album's lyrical depths. If you worry about the example she's setting by openly — and defiantly — embracing the man who assaulted her four years ago, then you're going to have a difficult time with most, if not all, of the record. That may not be fair, but it's inevitable. Then again, one gets the suspicion that Rihanna doesn't care either way. She's making her private life available for public consumption, and doing so proudly. And because of that, she's turned in the most complex album of her (still young) career, one on which she takes risks, pushes boundaries and opens up like never before. Bold? Brazen? Have a listen and call it what you will. Though there's no doubt why she decided to call it Unapologetic. |
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| thesmu | Nov 12 2012, 09:09 PM Post #764 |
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So disgusting
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I don't mind moral complexity or questionability in music - funnily enough I think Love The Way You Lie was a good example - but It doesn't really sound all that complex from the review. More like straight up 'love you baby' + 'if you don't like it eff off' sentiments. Ill give it a whirl but I've yet to hear a Rhianna album that holds me beyond one or two tracks. Clearly that's just down to my own personal taste though since she is phenomenally popular. |
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| Riverwide | Nov 12 2012, 09:13 PM Post #765 |
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I like a lot of her stuff, but I've never listened to an album of hers all the way through. There's still a gaping vaccuum where an actual artist should be. |
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| thesmu | Nov 12 2012, 09:21 PM Post #766 |
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So disgusting
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Haha yeah that's exactly it. I don't know if I'm being unfair though because her style of music isn't my 'thing' but I really struggle to find any personality in it. And that's comparing it to people like Ke$ha, Katy Perry, Britney etc Aside from the fact it's a banging song I also think that We Found Love is the best her voice has sounded, there's something about it that ironically for the song being so generic *does* have personality.. |
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| Riverwide | Nov 12 2012, 09:23 PM Post #767 |
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I think her voice is actually the best thing about her. It's certainly unique, which is vital for any pop star. She's not good live, but it's a strong studio voice. And yes, she's had some fantastic pop songs written for her. People go on and on about her amazing work ethic, but come on...it's not THAT difficult when other people are writing and producing the songs for you year after year. I also find her personal life beyond vile. |
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| Beautiful Stranger | Nov 12 2012, 09:25 PM Post #768 |
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*insert sex joke here* |
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| thesmu | Nov 12 2012, 09:29 PM Post #769 |
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So disgusting
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| Riverwide | Nov 13 2012, 01:58 AM Post #770 |
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In fairness, that was a very good performance from her. She was in tune and really seemed to be feeling the song. Very good stuff. |
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| TickTock | Nov 13 2012, 05:56 AM Post #771 |
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I Fckt Riverwide N Da Azz Real Hard Again
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She's tours, record an album a year, promotes non-stop. That is a strong work ethic. She's on par with Lady Gaga. The two of them don't sit even for a second. |
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| Anastasia Beaverhausen | Nov 13 2012, 08:53 AM Post #772 |
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I'm not sure, but it seems like she wrote some lyric for this album. First time, maybe? It is interesting, how much exactly she's involved... |
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| Riverwide | Nov 13 2012, 09:27 AM Post #773 |
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The magic of music is in the songwriting. I doubt she can even write her own name. Yes I know she does all that other stuff, but it's not like she actually does it well. Have you ever been to one of her shows? She's a very weak performer. |
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| wash | Nov 13 2012, 12:09 PM Post #774 |
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The magic of music is... the music. Who cares who wrote it? She's touring and promoting all year round, she's spent the last few years in hotel rooms and planes. It is hard life in the end and it takes commitment |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Nov 13 2012, 01:27 PM Post #775 |
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Yes I'm sure the people building the houses after hurricane Sandy weep for Rihanna flying first class and doing lines off her bodyguards head. |
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| Riverwide | Nov 13 2012, 01:32 PM Post #776 |
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| Riverwide | Nov 13 2012, 01:34 PM Post #777 |
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I do. But I do take your point. I'm just saying that for me, the music itself is the most important aspect of any artist's career and the reason she's able to crank out an album every year is because she just turns up and sings what other people have worked hard on, not because she's some sort of fountain of musical creativity...because she isn't. |
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| johnnox | Nov 13 2012, 02:03 PM Post #778 |
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I find it amusing when journalists analyse the lyrics of an artist who is basically just a puppet, and writes none of them herself. |
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| GimmeSomeRiver | Nov 13 2012, 02:08 PM Post #779 |
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It's just pathetically transparent that this 'poster' would claim that all of Gaga's achievements are concocted by her marketing team and then turn around and praise Rihanna for turning up every year for two weeks to lay down vocals and doing photoshoots like this ![]() Don't get me wrong, I think Rihanna is a great popstar precisely because she's a complete sex puppet and shows up plastered to gigs like she did in Hackney, but let's not praise her sacrifices in the name of art just yet. |
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| Anastasia Beaverhausen | Nov 13 2012, 04:47 PM Post #780 |
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Stupid point to blame a singer, and prejudice her output just cause she's ...just a singer and not a writer. So is Beyonce, Christina. So was Whitney... And most of singers out there which we all like. |
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