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The official Rihanna thread
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actually, the beat really kicked in with the wrong place, there was a distortion in backing and beats. band's fault.

And yeah, 7 shows in different countries in 7 days with the press? Bad idea. Several hours just to fly to the next stop, not to mention all the transfers in the cities. Crazy.
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RIHANNA throws a fit on stage


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Actually Rihanna came in too early and the band tried to catch up to cover for her so it was her fault.

Watched some of the concert and she really is dreadful onstage, no presence at all.
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If it was Christina, This would make headlines everywhere and she'd be burned at the stake.
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If it was Christina, This would make headlines everywhere and she'd be burned at the stake.
No. Xtina won't have her own stage any time soon, lol.
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If it was Christina, This would make headlines everywhere and she'd be burned at the stake.
Christina made a complete fool of herself the night before and I don't see any headlines anywhere.
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Rihanna's 'Unapologetic': The Billboard Cover Story
November 20, 2012

Every November for the past four years, Rihanna has released a million-selling album. Will "Unapologetic" be her first No. 1?

it's long, read here:
http://www.billboard.com/#/features/rihanna-s-unapologetic-the-billboard-cover-1008019752.story?page=1

tidbits:

The fact that Unapologetic is perhaps Rihanna's most urban, R&B-friendly album to date, complete with a hip-hop track from Guetta, is also a sign that a reversal of the EDM-R&B trend she helped kickstart may be afoot.

Rihanna herself was more collaborative than usual, contributing to five of the songs including Guetta's "Right Now" and "Phresh Out the Runway" as well as "Nobodies Business" and "Love Without Tragedy/Mother Mary." Brown says, "She's not here to make a record and take direction. Every record that has ever come she's always changed something. There's only been a few records in her career where she didn't have to do anything-'We Found Love' was perfect, 'Diamonds' was perfect. But that's the reason the songs sound so perfect-she talks to the producer and the songwriters and she works it out."

And Rihanna's rekindled friendship with Chris Brown has also kept her under heavy public scrutiny, which didn't help matters in February when a pair of remixes of the former couple's current singles "Turn Up the Music" and "Birthday Cake" were released as surprise duets. Though neither was released commercially, both took off at radio despite early backlash. "'Birthday Cake,' that was a moment in time. It was a viral, consumer-driven reality," Bartels says. "Ultimately Rihanna drives her creative vision. Our job is to take that and support it in the marketplace. She's been very vocal about where she stands and where she feels."

Island Def Jam's Thiam says the Brown duet "Nobodies Business" is a leading candidate for Unapologetic's second single, but the label team "always takes the approach of putting the record out, getting feedback and letting people decide where to take it from there. There's a lot of big records on the album, but we want the people to decide what they want to be next."

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Rihanna - Unapologetic
(Mercury) UK release date: 19 November 2012
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by Philip Matusavage

The title of Rihanna’s seventh album in seven years, Unapologetic, may be a nod to her self-consciously ‘dangerous’ persona but it is inevitably going to be taken as referring to its heavily-trailed centrepiece duet with Chris Brown. The song, Nobody’s Business, finds Rihanna declaring "You’ll always be mine, sing it to the world" while Brown coos "let’s make out in this Lexus", while both sing that their relationship is "nobody’s business". To fully appreciate just how foolish this is, we have to look at what has led up to it.

In November 2009, in one of her first interviews after Brown brutally assaulted her, Rihanna bravely spoke about the emotional turmoil she had experienced as a consequence of the attack. She spoke of feeling “very ashamed, angry… embarrassed… You start lying to yourself, blaming yourself.” Only 21 at the time, she spoke eloquently about her fame and its responsibilities, strikingly explaining her decision to leave Brown by pondering the message it would send to her young fans: “My selfish desire for love could result in some young girl getting killed. I could not be easy with that, responsible for that.” It was heart-rending that a very public victim of a horrendous crime should have to feel such an additional burden on her shoulders, yet as a mature and empowering response it was hugely admirable. Sadly, time has shown just how far society has to go in its responses to domestic violence, with many of Brown’s young fans throwing insults at his victim and tweeting deeply disturbing statements about how they’d be happy for him to hit them. For his part, Brown delivered an embarrassingly perfunctory apology on Larry King, released songs which seemed to blame Rihanna for his attack (Famous Girl) and adopted a juvenile, entitled victim stance blaming negative reactions on ‘haters’ and ‘devils’. Throw in homophobic tweets, very public tantrums and overwhelming self-pity and it’s difficult to view Brown as anything other than repugnant.

Rihanna’s musical response to the situation was Rated R, one of the most accomplished and astounding pop albums of the past decade. It was a complex, resonant work which did not shy away from events but took control of them. Notably, it heavily featured Rihanna’s creative input, with nine of its 13 tracks being co-written by her. This seemed not only apt but necessary for such a personal work. Unfortunately the album sold only a fraction of its blockbuster predecessor Good Girl Gone Bad and, barely 12 months later, Rihanna returned with a more commercially-friendly offering. Her career since has been one long backtrack from Rated R, with undemanding (if frequently brilliant) singles, almost constant touring and a desire for commercial dominance seemingly being the guiding raison d'être.

Of course, withdrawing from Rated R is understandable considering the circumstances of its creation. Yet 2010’s duet with Eminem, Love The Way You Lie, set alarm bells ringing with its breathy take on a deeply dysfunctional relationship which saw Dominic Monaghan and Megan Fox sexily alluding to domestic violence in its video. The subsequent years saw regular rumours of a rekindled relationship between Rihanna and Chris Brown until, earlier this year, they simultaneously released two duets: Birthday Cake and Turn Up The Music. If such a public reconciliation wasn’t troublesome enough, the countdown to their release saw Rihanna teasing her fans with clues as to the identity of her duet partner. As cynical publicity tactics go, asking your fans to guess that you’re singing with the man who previously hospitalised you is difficult to beat.

And so we come back to Nobody’s Business, with its hugely harmful implicit message that abusive relationships are private matters. It’s impossible to square with Rihanna’s previous maturity regarding the matter – certainly she should be allowed to change her mind but, given the cycle of abuse which so often characterises domestic violence, someone should have said ‘no’ to such a public statement.

Astoundingly, having just been told that their relationship is none of our business, the following Love Without Tragedy/Mother Mary makes Brown’s attack its central subject. “Who knew the course of this one drive injured us fatally?” Rihanna sings, before asking “what’s love without tragedy?” The line “As long as we got each other, I’m prepared to die in the moment” stops you in your tracks, such is the disbelief that anyone involved thought it was an acceptable sentiment given the context.

These songs and the flirtation with dangerous men as some kind of transgressive thrill completely poison the record. The reggae confection of No Love Allowed finds Rihanna singing "I was flying til you knocked me to the floor" and declaring that "this man, he’s the one I’d die for". Numb features the return of Eminem, who drops a reference to Love The Way You Lie before boasting that "the odds are imma end up in the back of a squad car by the end of tonight" while Rihanna blankly sings a refrain of "I’m going numb". This sense of emotional trauma displays itself in a different way in the obnoxious Pour It Up, where Rihanna has "money on my mind", only sees "dollar signs" and offers the charming lyric "Mens make your girl go down and I’ve still got my money".

There are those who would argue that reviews should only address the music on its own terms. For what it’s worth, when you’re at Rihanna’s level you can afford the best songwriters and producers in the business and sonically the album is generally far ahead of her peers. Yet if Sia's Diamonds is a sultry triumph, its character and uniqueness highlights the ultimately hollow pleasures of much around it. David Guetta's Right Now is the worst offender, a boilerplate banger that will no doubt be a future single. Stay, featuring Mikky Ekko and co-written by the man behind Lana Del Rey’s Video Games, is better in its subtle but compelling charm while Jump (with its interpolations of Ginuwine's Pony) is nothing less than a brilliant pop song.

Nonetheless, to argue that the unpleasantness at the album’s core doesn’t matter is to deny that pop music matters; that it has a cultural resonance far beyond the charts. To argue this is to enable the misogyny which fuels this record, where an overwhelmingly male group of songwriters play up Rihanna as an alluring cipher, flirting with danger while staring into the void. Whatever Rihanna’s role in this album, it’s to be hoped that she doesn’t believe most of what she’s singing here. As a record it is not only misguided, it’s dangerous. We should not shy away from that.
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Interesting review. I find myself caught over stuff like this though - I disagree wholeheartedly with the passion = violence equation and agree about it in principle being i'dangerous' however it doesn't stop it being a way people often feel and you could just as easily argue the same for a lot of lyrics by alt / rock bands. I think in that sense pop stars get a far rougher deal. Ultimately I don't care enough about Rihanna to really form an opinion either way but ethically I'm a bit torn.


sorry, edited this a bit to explain myself better
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Looks like she's about to get her first #1 album in the US. Seventh time lucky. :chuckle:


WHEN BLACK FRIDAY COMES: Today's HITS album sales chart has just closed and we’re already peering into our crystal ball for next week, folks, thanks to one-day sales reports from those retailers around the country who haven’t succumbed to tryptophan shock. Heading into holiday weekend, our retail experts ask for your indulgence, with a greater than usual margin of error due to cranberry consumption. Look for Def Jam/IDJ chanteuse Rihanna’s Unapologetic to sell between 240-260k, her biggest debut ever, which is probably good enough to make her #1 next week. Atlantic’s Kid Rock takes advantage of his availability at iTunes for the first time with an estimate of 160-180k for his new, pro-Mitt Romney album, Rebel Soul. 19/Interscope American Idol winner Phillip Phillips’ The World from the Side of the Moon will bow with between 140-160k. Atlantic/Rhino’s Led Zeppelin CD/DVD Celebration, recorded at their much-ballyhooed reunion show at London’s 02 Arena in 2007, should do in the 90-100k range. Geffen diva Keyshia Cole’s Woman to Woman is on target for 75-85k, while 19/RCA Idol album Kelly Clarkson’s greatest hits compilation looks good for 45-50k. RCA Latin star Pitbull’s Global Warning should do 35-40k, while Capitol stalwart Coldplay’s Live 2012 CD/DVD will sell in the 30-35k range. (11/20p)

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi
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Rihanna, Chris Brown duet 'leading candidate for next single'

Rihanna's new duet with Chris Brown is likely to be her next single.

Vice President of A&R at Island Def Jam, Abou Thiam, has revealed that 'Nobody's Business' is the leading candidate to be the Bajan star's next release.

However, he told Billboard that the label "always takes the approach of putting the record out, getting feedback and letting people decide where to take it from there".

He added: "There's a lot of big records on the album, but we want the people to decide what they want to be next."

The track has been the focus of many reviews of Unapologetic, which received a mixed response from critics upon its release yesterday (November 19).

http://www.digitalspy.ie/music/news/a439590/rihanna-chris-brown-duet-leading-candidate-for-next-single.html
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what do u know, at first i thought this would be a piss poor album but after some listens i now regard it as her strongest set since rated r.
here's my track by track ratings

1. "Phresh Out the Runway" - 6/10
2. "Diamonds" - 9/10
3. "Numb" (ft. Eminem) - 4/10
4. "Pour It Up" - 2/10
5. "Loveeeeeee Song" (ft. Future) - 6/10
6. "Jump" - 9/10
7. "Right Now" - 8/10 were it not for guetta's generic production, this could actually have been elevated to a solid 10/10
8. "What Now" - 6/10
9. "Stay" (ft. Mikky Ekko) - 10/10 :drama: this is just beautiful
10. "Nobody's Business" (ft. Chris Brown) - 9/10 another solid 10/10 had it been a collaboration with someone else
11. "Love Without Tragedy" / "Mother Mary" - 8/10 first half is fantastic, mother mary not very much so though it tries to
12. "Get It Over With" - 5/10
13. "No Love Allowed" - 7/10 a charming sequel to man down, however a weaker one
14. "Lost in Paradise" - 9/10
15. "Half of Me" - 7/10





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9. "Stay" (ft. Mikky Ekko) - 10/10 :drama: this is just beautiful

It really is, isn't it? Soooooo gorgeous. :drama:
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Rihanna, Chris Brown duet 'leading candidate for next single'

Rihanna's new duet with Chris Brown is likely to be her next single.

Vice President of A&R at Island Def Jam, Abou Thiam, has revealed that 'Nobody's Business' is the leading candidate to be the Bajan star's next release.

However, he told Billboard that the label "always takes the approach of putting the record out, getting feedback and letting people decide where to take it from there".

He added: "There's a lot of big records on the album, but we want the people to decide what they want to be next."

The track has been the focus of many reviews of Unapologetic, which received a mixed response from critics upon its release yesterday (November 19).

http://www.digitalspy.ie/music/news/a439590/rihanna-chris-brown-duet-leading-candidate-for-next-single.html
judging the song in its own musical merit, it totally deserves to be a single. HOWEVER, it really feels awkward and disturbing to listen to a duet between a victim of abuse and her actual abuser. enjoying it - and it's hard not to enjoy this - almost turns a listener to an accomplice of what appears to be a sick relationship. as a matter of fact, riri is the last person i blame for that. after all, she was the one victimized and psychology has stated such people are easily manipulated by their own feelings of dependence regarding those mistreating them.

what i find scandalous is the music industry and the media giving chris brown the chance and enough exposure to continue his recording career, thus promoting him to the point he's actually become bigger than even before the riri incident. not all victims of such acts of violence can strengthen their personas and as it appears riri's not emerging to be one of them. perhaps it's a bit harsh to judge her for turning weaker than we all expected, but then we've never been into her shoes. the stockholm syndrome refers to people being kidnapped for a long time and yet building a very special connection with their kidnappers, i do wonder if it's a similar case with those beaten up and their abusers.
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9. "Stay" (ft. Mikky Ekko) - 10/10 :drama: this is just beautiful

It really is, isn't it? Soooooo gorgeous. :drama:
i sincerely think it might be up there with russian roulette. time will tell
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As a piece of music, "Nobody's Business" is very good. Definitely single-worthy. The whole situation really is beyond disturbing though. Vile.
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9. "Stay" (ft. Mikky Ekko) - 10/10 :drama: this is just beautiful

It really is, isn't it? Soooooo gorgeous. :drama:
i sincerely think it might be up there with russian roulette. time will tell
Oh I think it is. It's so understated and beautiful. Russian Roulette is gorgeous too!
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Looks like she's about to get her first #1 album in the US. Seventh time lucky. :chuckle:


WHEN BLACK FRIDAY COMES: Today's HITS album sales chart has just closed and we’re already peering into our crystal ball for next week, folks, thanks to one-day sales reports from those retailers around the country who haven’t succumbed to tryptophan shock. Heading into holiday weekend, our retail experts ask for your indulgence, with a greater than usual margin of error due to cranberry consumption. Look for Def Jam/IDJ chanteuse Rihanna’s Unapologetic to sell between 240-260k, her biggest debut ever, which is probably good enough to make her #1 next week. Atlantic’s Kid Rock takes advantage of his availability at iTunes for the first time with an estimate of 160-180k for his new, pro-Mitt Romney album, Rebel Soul. 19/Interscope American Idol winner Phillip Phillips’ The World from the Side of the Moon will bow with between 140-160k. Atlantic/Rhino’s Led Zeppelin CD/DVD Celebration, recorded at their much-ballyhooed reunion show at London’s 02 Arena in 2007, should do in the 90-100k range. Geffen diva Keyshia Cole’s Woman to Woman is on target for 75-85k, while 19/RCA Idol album Kelly Clarkson’s greatest hits compilation looks good for 45-50k. RCA Latin star Pitbull’s Global Warning should do 35-40k, while Capitol stalwart Coldplay’s Live 2012 CD/DVD will sell in the 30-35k range. (11/20p)

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi
given the album is packed with potential killer singles addressed to different radio formats and audiences, it should evolve to a far bigger seller than talk that talk. and it's about time she got her well deserved number one on the album chart
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“Diamonds” is @Rihanna’s 12th number one, at the top of the Billboard Hot 100 Single chart this week!
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“Diamonds” is @Rihanna’s 12th number one, at the top of the Billboard Hot 100 Single chart this week!
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hadn't seen this one coming. jeesh she really is unstoppable
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