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The Official X Factor Thread
Topic Started: Oct 8 2008, 04:01 PM (2,428 Views)
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I was joking. :(
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Dec 9 2008, 03:14 PM
I was joking. :(

As you can see, j'ai non amusent pas.
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The winner of X Factor does not receive an upfront £1million record deal, the Mirror reveals today.
Instead, the top act gets an advance of £150,000 for a first album – out of which their expenses must be paid.
A copy of the 80-page contract which all finalists had to sign before the Saturday night live shows has been seen by the Mirror.
Each was told by legal firm Michael Simkins on September 29 to read it “carefully”.
The contract has hundreds of clauses, one of which states it to be enforceable anywhere “in the world and solar system”.
Clause 32.4 says artists must not make any statement which “may be considered unduly negative, critical or derogatory of the Company – including its personnel and, in particular, Simon Cowell”.
A music industry source said: “The contract makes clear no one can speak badly of X Factor supremo Simon. It is hilarious. He must be ultra-paranoid.”
The winner of the record deal could even be left with little of the £150,000 when costs are accounted for.
The only chance of hitting the £1million mark is several years down the line – after at least four albums.
But a source said: “Even then, chances are they will never see that sort of money.
“For presenter Dermot O’Leary to say in front of 13 million viewers the winner gets this sort of deal is slightly misleading to say the least.” Industry experts who have seen the contract claim it is “very” restrictive.
And we can reveal that one of the finalists already booted out this year is seeking legal advice behind the back of X Factor bosses to get out of the contract.
Speaking to the Mirror through a friend, the finalist said: “You have to sign all the agreements before being allowed in the final.
“After being kicked off, you’re under contract to Cowell’s label for up to three months, even if they’ve no interest in you. Other record labels won’t touch you until the deal is over, and then interest may have waned.”
The Mirror spoke to a handful of promoters who have advised former X Factor acts to misbehave and force Sony BMG to end their contracts. One said: “Developing a reputation as a troublemaker can sometimes force a label to drop you.”
The winning act gets 15 per cent from single and album sales. Headlining a tour brings 7.5 per cent of show profits and 15 per cent of merchandise sales.

They also have to sign with agent Modest Management in a deal having the potential to last 14 years.
The record label has “final say” over tracks for albums, and can choose producers and single releases.
Finalists are expected to sign the complicated contract in just three days.
An X Factor spokesman said: “It's not a £1million prize – it’s a record deal. The £1million figure includes the recording costs, using the best producers, and marketing costs using the best video directors. We would say £1million is a very conservative figure.”
Saturday’s final on ITV1 is between Alexandra Burke, JLS and Eoghan Quigg.
Clause 38.4
Artists booted off the show have to fork out five per cent of all future live earnings to Cowell for a year.
Clause 6.1.1
Winner gets £150k advance, 2nd gets £75k, 3rd £50k and 4th £10k.
Clause 36.4
You can only sing in pubs for three months after last show – unless gig is being recorded.
Clause 1.41
Contract enforceable anywhere in the world and solar system.
Clause 32.4
Artists must not without consent make any statement which may be considered unduly negative, critical or derogatory of the Company – including its personnel and, in particular, Simon Cowell.
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Not surprising (Although surely Girls Aloud and Will Young have made some money by now?)

What is surprising is how many people still enter that show.

Winning Big Brother is more lucrative as with that you just win a lump sum.
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Poor popstars.
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Glamorama
Dec 10 2008, 10:55 AM
Winning Big Brother is more lucrative as with that you just win a lump sum.
Yes, but how many BB's have a long career ahead of them after they win?
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I always knew it'd be a shitty deal, but I never realised just HOW shitty!
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I think it's very simmilar to the money that new pop acts get. Normally they only get some money after the first contract is over after the first 3 albums. And normally... few pop acts release more than 3 albums.
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Dec 10 2008, 12:14 PM
Glamorama
Dec 10 2008, 10:55 AM
Winning Big Brother is more lucrative as with that you just win a lump sum.
Yes, but how many BB's have a long career ahead of them after they win?
Very few (Jade Goody and Nikki Graham are the only 2 who seem to be making a living from it). But the same could be said for the winners of the pop reality shows.

The only successes are Will Young; Girls Aloud and Leona Lewis (and if their deals are as rubbish as that article claims it is only now what Will Young and Girls Aloud are starting to earn some decent money)

The failures are Hearsay; Gareth Gates; Steve Brookstein; Michelle McManus; Shayne Ward; Leon Jackson; David Sneddon; Alex Parks; Liberty X; Sinead Quinn etc etc.
Edited by Glamorama, Dec 10 2008, 12:28 PM.
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Is this some kind of joke? I can't imgaine anyone drafting a contract saying it's enforceable anywhere in the solar system. The fact that the contestants can be so young throws the whole issue of the enforceability of the contract. Anyone under 18 with half a brain and a bit of success would repudiate that contract when they achieved their majority and would probably get away with it, although it may be commercial suicide to take on the wrath of Simon Cowell.
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The thing is, would it really be in Cowell's interests to sue a constestant? The negative reaction could be really bad. The press would go to town on him I imagine...or has he bought them too?
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Dec 10 2008, 01:43 PM
The thing is, would it really be in Cowell's interests to sue a constestant? The negative reaction could be really bad. The press would go to town on him I imagine...or has he bought them too?
He wouldn't have to, just the threat of suing might be enough. The only way someone is going to try to get out of that contract is if someone else with a lot of money and equally cuntish lawyers makes them an offer they can't refuse. These contracts usually have onerous restraints in there have been a few cases where the contracts have been set aside as being an unreasonable restraint. Cowell's contract is fucking monstrous, it's practically slavery. Either abide by its terms or work in McDonalds seem to be the only options. Disgraceful.
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A few years ago i worked at a small television and my boss was the most horrid woman on Earth. I used to fight with her because she was plainly stupid and wanted me to do things in a bad way. Well, anyway, they were so sure that i was going to leave them and leave the tv program on hiatus that they made me sign a weird contract that would make me pay loads of money if i left before june, but they would give me several thousands euros if i stayed. I laughed a lot, becase i was going to stay anyway. So i earned my money.

The bad thing is that the next season was presented by a big breasts girl and they didn't call me again to host it. And mind, the program was my idea and i had developed it! It was a shit program anyway.
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:lmao: Another fabulous insight into the weird and wonderful world of Karbatal!

Are there any clips of you hosting this show??
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Precisely i just posted that and i thought "oh, i will search for it at google and that" but no, there's no evidence, only a VHS tape i have with four programs on it. It was a program about internet and it was made on year 2000, so i had to explain in the program what http meant and how to build a webpage and things like that. I recall the first program was about explaining what's a modem.

They were so bigots! They made me interview the owner's wife with this soooo interesting theme: "Housewives and internet" and she explained for 10 minutes how cool she was because she could send emails. That program was so humiliating so many times... But wore so pretty clothes and it was such fun to learn how tv works..
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:lol2: It sounds fabulous! Oh how I'd love to see you in your TV presenter mode!
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I remembered there were a couple of pics in my newspaper achive. They were archived after a promo shoot was made.

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Karbatal has lived a thousand lives!

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Karby you look so sexy!!!!

were you wearing nipple clamps and leather chaps under those clothes?!
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