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The official Justin Timberlake thread; New album "Man of the Woods"
Topic Started: Jan 5 2013, 11:44 PM (7,776 Views)
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AM enjoying this, actually. Like Riv, I'd have liked there have to have been strong melodies and hooks, and it's going to be tough for him to mine many singles from this. As an album, it does blend seemlessly from track to track and it maybe comes across more as something to listen to while you're doing something else.

It doesn;t warrant your undivided attention, but it's nice background music. So far, a solid 3/5.
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On second listen, the unchanging tempo is not as annoying and the songs are undeniably well produced and pleasant enough, but why drag out each and every one by 2-3 minutes? When he did it on previous albums it felt organic and essential to the flow, now it just feels superfluous and masturbatory.
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johnnox
Mar 12 2013, 11:49 AM
As an album, it does blend seemlessly from track to track
so does my shit but I don't call it MUSIC.
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Mar 12 2013, 02:25 PM
johnnox
Mar 12 2013, 11:49 AM
As an album, it does blend seemlessly from track to track
so does my shit but I don't call it MUSIC.
You call it shit, we call it your thoughts.
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I've heard it about 5 times now and I really have no interest in ever hearing it again. It's like a boring Robin Thicke album.

*flush*
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Why would he make such a snoozefest of an album though? I thought he was a dancer. Is he trying to prove he's "mature"? What a weird way of perceiving maturity.
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Well aren;t I becoming quite the hypocrite? Maybe I was just excited to hear new JT sounds yesterday. Three plays later and I'm thinking an album of radio edits might be more appealing.
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johnnox
Mar 13 2013, 12:26 PM
Well aren;t I becoming quite the hypocrite? Maybe I was just excited to hear new JT sounds yesterday. Three plays later and I'm thinking an album of radio edits might be more appealing.
Exactly what I was thinking. If every song was 3 minutes shorter, the album would be SO much better.

By the way, the deluxe has leaked. It's even longer... :chuckle:
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johnnox
Mar 13 2013, 12:26 PM
Well aren;t I becoming quite the hypocrite? Maybe I was just excited to hear new JT sounds yesterday. Three plays later and I'm thinking an album of radio edits might be more appealing.
Absolutely. Cutting those completely useless and repetitive 2-3 minutes off every song would make the album so much tighter and pleasant. As it is, even the good songs get drowned out by a sea of Timbaland playing with his 2006 toys. I was actually hoping his label might release one.
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Mar 12 2013, 06:49 PM
I've heard it about 5 times now and I really have no interest in ever hearing it again. It's like a boring Robin Thicke album.

*flush*
Im so sure my feelings will be the same... Just feel obliged to download.
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I love Angie Stone. I want her to sing this album and make it really *sound*. I miss the big sound here. Big voice, to be precise. She never did a big album, but had better than this one.

Great rnb, but not enough memorable toons. I cant recall a one. But 'That Girl' makes me want to get violent on him, not sure why. But overall its a very pleasant listen.

Due to my first listen I must say, the transitions between the songs are really better than songs.
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Very nice album anyway. I just very NOT impressed with his voice. He lost it.
Very nice chill out music. We waited for chart toppers, but this is good too. I have no idea how singles from this album could be in top10. But the album as a whole deserves it.

When i'll be on my fifth listen, i'll post here again. Now: like it way more than hate it.

EDIT: on the 7-8th listen. Love it.
Some songs are just incredible, like Ocean Blue. I do hate Timbaland, but he's good here. Madonna should kill him, btw.

Pros: very consistent Album that you could find. Good music.
Cons: weak voice, Britney says hello. The singles are the worse, plus That Girl is very bad. And you won't be singing along to all this, but could try ;)
Edited by Anastasia Beaverhausen, Mar 14 2013, 08:04 AM.
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Listened to it again just now and enjoyed it so much more. It's a grower I reckon!
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Mar 14 2013, 11:41 PM
Listened to it again just now and enjoyed it so much more. It's a grower I reckon!
hopefully u're right. i'm listening to it right now for the first time - my impression is it's a record one needs to play several times for the tunes and the beats to get revealed properly. certainly not the sort of music we were expecting, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. all songs work better when in the context of the album than on their own. i don't believe he'll have a hard time picking up a couple more hit singles to sell the album - he's already got a top3 hit and a number one before the album's even out.

fantastic production overall, i sense this will end up as one of those albums u play on your good old cd player from start to finish, its mood demands none of the tracks to be skipped however mediocre one might be.

as a conclusion, i'm not overly impressed, but yes i agree, this sounds like a classic case of a grower.
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is it just me or is Body Count a bit too similar to Spanish Lesson?
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Mar 15 2013, 02:11 AM
is it just me or is Body Count a bit too similar to Spanish Lesson?
Very similar!
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Mar 15 2013, 12:10 AM
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Mar 14 2013, 11:41 PM
Listened to it again just now and enjoyed it so much more. It's a grower I reckon!
hopefully u're right. i'm listening to it right now for the first time - my impression is it's a record one needs to play several times for the tunes and the beats to get revealed properly. certainly not the sort of music we were expecting, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. all songs work better when in the context of the album than on their own. i don't believe he'll have a hard time picking up a couple more hit singles to sell the album - he's already got a top3 hit and a number one before the album's even out.

fantastic production overall, i sense this will end up as one of those albums u play on your good old cd player from start to finish, its mood demands none of the tracks to be skipped however mediocre one might be.

as a conclusion, i'm not overly impressed, but yes i agree, this sounds like a classic case of a grower.
Yeah, the production is mostly stunning. It's retro, but also completely modern and eccentric. It's *so* detailed too. There aren't really any BIG tunes, but I was listening to it earlier while pottering around town and not really concentrating on it, and I really enjoyed it. So like Johnno said, it's like brilliant background music, without really being a hit-filled classic.

I definitely think it has something though, and it really doesn't sound quite like anything else out there. This review from The Guardian sums it up perfectly for me:

Last month, one waggish journalist responded to the excitement surrounding Justin Timberlake's arrival in London by posting an old photo of the singer and his former paramour, Britney Spears, on Twitter. There they were, teen pop's young dream, posing on the red carpet in 2001, having made the fateful decision to attend the American Music awards in matching stonewashed denim outfits. Resplendent not merely in a stonewashed denim suit, but a stonewashed denim Stetson, sunglasses and rapper's gold chain, Timberlake looked the epitome of the clueless boyband doofus, making the most of his fleeting fame.

It's an image worth bearing in mind while listening to The 20/20 Experience, not least its closing track, Blue Ocean Floor: seven and a half minutes of backward tapes, echoing piano figures, sub-bass, sound effects and hazy strings. It's fair to say that Blue Ocean Floor is not a piece of music anyone in 2001 could have envisaged stonewashed-denim Stetson boy ever making. The clueless boyband doofus isn't supposed to have any kind of career 11 years after the boyband's split, let alone the kind of career Timberlake currently enjoys: burgeoning Hollywood success, so imperious in his stardom that he can leave a six-and-a-half-year gap between albums.

That is at least partly down to smartly aligning himself with the best producers and songwriters in the business: the Neptunes, whose fantastic single Rock Your Body was intended for Michael Jackson, and Timbaland, responsible for the truly great bits of The 20/20 Experience's predecessor, FutureSex/LoveSounds. The latter has been lying relatively low of late, perhaps preferring to sit out an era in which the kind of artists who would once have come calling for his visionary productions seem happier to throw in their lot with the identikit pop-rave merchants, but The 20/20 Experience restates his case in remarkable style: on purely sonic terms, the album is a genuine tour de force. Its signature sound is based around knowing fragments of various classic soul styles: a booming Isaac Hayes-ish voiceover, the luscious string and horn arrangements that surrounded the Delfonics and the Chi-Lites, the squelching analogue synthesisers found on Stevie Wonder's early-70s albums, a squealing, Eddie Hazel-like guitar solo. But there's nothing reverential or retro about its approach: it maroons these sounds amid a mass of disconnected, echoing samples – snatches of piano, distorted voices, buzzing electronics – and unexpected beats. Elsewhere, he ventures further afield: the astonishing Let the Groove Get In features an electronic approximation of a batucada rhythm, overlaid with ferocious afrobeat horns.

The sound of The 20/20 Experience is complex, rich and rewarding. It rigorously avoids every one of the tired sonic cliches in which pop-R&B is currently mired: there's not a hint of a dubstep-inspired bassline, nor a house-inspired breakdown. Nevertheless, there are problems. The songwriting isn't bad – Timberlake can really write a chorus – but nor is it good enough to warrant the sheer length of the songs: the shortest track on the album lasts five minutes, while two tip over the eight-minute mark.

Then there are the album's lyrics, which are awful. It's not that the lyrics are exclusively about sex; it's that Timberlake writes about it in a way that suggests he's desperate to add some kind of musical equivalent of the Bad Sex award to his six Grammys and four Emmys. "We're making love like professionals," he sings. Hang on: professionals? What does that mean? Utterly dispassionately, for a pre-arranged fee?

There's a terrible moment midway through Strawberry Bubblegum, where the listener slowly becomes aware that "strawberry bubblegum" appears to be a metaphor for his partner's vagina. Timberlake is a young man recently married, and he's entitled to celebrate that any way he chooses, although you do wonder if the lady wouldn't prefer, say, a bunch of flowers to a song, broadcast to millions, comparing her vagina to a piece of Hubba-Bubba. At least he dishes out something similar to himself: his penis apparently resembles a "blueberry lollipop", which suggests he needs to get a doctor to look at it. That sounds like a symptom of a serious circulation problem.

It's a bold soul that claims this kind of thing doesn't mar their enjoyment of The 20/20 Experience: it's definitely harder to concentrate on the rich inventiveness of the sound when there's a man comparing his wife's vagina to some bubblegum in a falsetto voice over the top of it. Equally, it would be churlish to claim it ruins it. Despite its flaws, The 20/20 Experience is a genuinely adventurous pop album in a world of will-this-do? The days of the denim Stetson seem more distant than ever.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/mar/14/justin-timberlake-2020-experience-review
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Mar 15 2013, 02:40 AM
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is it just me or is Body Count a bit too similar to Spanish Lesson?
Very similar!
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Mar 15 2013, 02:46 AM
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Mar 15 2013, 12:10 AM
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Mar 14 2013, 11:41 PM
Listened to it again just now and enjoyed it so much more. It's a grower I reckon!
hopefully u're right. i'm listening to it right now for the first time - my impression is it's a record one needs to play several times for the tunes and the beats to get revealed properly. certainly not the sort of music we were expecting, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. all songs work better when in the context of the album than on their own. i don't believe he'll have a hard time picking up a couple more hit singles to sell the album - he's already got a top3 hit and a number one before the album's even out.

fantastic production overall, i sense this will end up as one of those albums u play on your good old cd player from start to finish, its mood demands none of the tracks to be skipped however mediocre one might be.

as a conclusion, i'm not overly impressed, but yes i agree, this sounds like a classic case of a grower.
Yeah, the production is mostly stunning. It's retro, but also completely modern and eccentric. It's *so* detailed too. There aren't really any BIG tunes, but I was listening to it earlier while pottering around town and not really concentrating on it, and I really enjoyed it. So like Johnno said, it's like brilliant background music, without really being a hit-filled classic.

I definitely think it has something though, and it really doesn't sound quite like anything else out there. This review from The Guardian sums it up perfectly for me:



There's a terrible moment midway through Strawberry Bubblegum, where the listener slowly becomes aware that "strawberry bubblegum" appears to be a metaphor for his partner's vagina. Timberlake is a young man recently married, and he's entitled to celebrate that any way he chooses, although you do wonder if the lady wouldn't prefer, say, a bunch of flowers to a song, broadcast to millions, comparing her vagina to a piece of Hubba-Bubba. At least he dishes out something similar to himself: his penis apparently resembles a "blueberry lollipop", which suggests he needs to get a doctor to look at it. That sounds like a symptom of a serious circulation problem.
:rotfl:

Lest we forget "so thick, now I know why they call it a fatty" or smth like that. :vomit:
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