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Boston Marathon hit by explosions
Topic Started: Apr 15 2013, 08:48 PM (2,273 Views)
thesmu
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Ultimately everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions.
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Apr 22 2013, 11:43 AM
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Apr 21 2013, 06:00 PM
Japan buys video games up the wazoo. They aren't doing mass killings. America is simply a target because of its power, its wealth, its international businesses located within, and all the nationalities it contains. Its foreign policy also makes it a target. There were 93 countries running that race in Boston.

The older brother involved in all of this was out of the country for six months. He was a radical Muslim, and his brother was also an extremist. This has nothing to with some sort of learned US behavior, or media, or any other tripe you're going on about. It's Islam yet again. America isn't pushing that religion down anyone's throats.

Are you willing to say that the brutality going on in the Middle East is due to movies, television, video games, and, or Lady Gaga?
To think of it: Isn't blaming Islam for this kinda the same as blaming Batman for shooting in cinema? Or is it different?..
Umm yeah, it's different. Since, you know, Batman doesn't exist.
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thesmu
Apr 22 2013, 03:04 PM
Ultimately everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions.
Its simple. Completely true, but too simple. There could be bigger issues that can reproduce freaks over and over.
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I don't think so. I actually think it's the opposite. I think it's far to easy to blame external factors - pop culture, religion, society - because it's far too difficult to face up to the darker recesses of human nature. Bad people have always existed. They always will. And they / we will always find a 'reason' to blame for it.
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thesmu
Apr 22 2013, 03:46 PM
I don't think so. I actually think it's the opposite. I think it's far to easy to blame external factors - pop culture, religion, society - because it's far too difficult to face up to the darker recesses of human nature. Bad people have always existed. They always will. And they / we will always find a 'reason' to blame for it.
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thesmu
Apr 22 2013, 03:46 PM
I don't think so. I actually think it's the opposite. I think it's far to easy to blame external factors - pop culture, religion, society - because it's far too difficult to face up to the darker recesses of human nature. Bad people have always existed. They always will. And they / we will always find a 'reason' to blame for it.
Yes, but if so - its kind of puzzling how a whole country like Germany produced so many freaks (a nation actually) in the 30-40s of the 20th Century? Were they just BORN bad inhuman beings with all nightmares of Buchenwald, or take Russia with KGB - were they naturally born killers? Don't think so.

External factors exist TOO, and could be very, very massive sometimes.
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The people who participated in WW2 weren't all freaks. Just misguided and in need of leadership after Germany had been kicked down after WWI. I have no idea what you're saying about the KGB or the FBI. These people are trained to be agents and do whatever is necessary, they're not sociopaths.


It's like you're trying to embarrass yourself.
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Anastasia Beaverhausen
Apr 22 2013, 11:43 AM
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Apr 21 2013, 06:00 PM
Japan buys video games up the wazoo. They aren't doing mass killings. America is simply a target because of its power, its wealth, its international businesses located within, and all the nationalities it contains. Its foreign policy also makes it a target. There were 93 countries running that race in Boston.

The older brother involved in all of this was out of the country for six months. He was a radical Muslim, and his brother was also an extremist. This has nothing to with some sort of learned US behavior, or media, or any other tripe you're going on about. It's Islam yet again. America isn't pushing that religion down anyone's throats.

Are you willing to say that the brutality going on in the Middle East is due to movies, television, video games, and, or Lady Gaga?
To think of it: Isn't blaming Islam for this kinda the same as blaming Batman for shooting in cinema? Or is it different?..
You're comparing Batman with Islam? :wowwow:
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thesmu
Apr 22 2013, 03:04 PM
Ultimately everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions.
They don't have to once they detonate themselves.
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Anastasia Beaverhausen
Apr 22 2013, 04:57 PM
thesmu
Apr 22 2013, 03:46 PM
I don't think so. I actually think it's the opposite. I think it's far to easy to blame external factors - pop culture, religion, society - because it's far too difficult to face up to the darker recesses of human nature. Bad people have always existed. They always will. And they / we will always find a 'reason' to blame for it.
Yes, but if so - its kind of puzzling how a whole country like Germany produced so many freaks (a nation actually) in the 30-40s of the 20th Century? Were they just BORN bad inhuman beings with all nightmares of Buchenwald, or take Russia with KGB - were they naturally born killers? Don't think so.

External factors exist TOO, and could be very, very massive sometimes.
Those things weren't produced by pop culture, numb skull. It was based on real life events, one of which was poverty. People also had guns pointed at their heads.
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thesmu
Apr 22 2013, 03:46 PM
I don't think so. I actually think it's the opposite. I think it's far to easy to blame external factors - pop culture, religion, society - because it's far too difficult to face up to the darker recesses of human nature. Bad people have always existed. They always will. And they / we will always find a 'reason' to blame for it.
Exactly. It's not as if you instill another religion in the Middle East, somehow that's going to prevent them for acting like animals. People will find anything to keep the masses in line. Brainwashing does exist. Western law keeps Christians from stoning people.

There are always reasons why someone becomes evil. Brain defect is a reason as well. Most of it is emotional though. Some are born with a load of bad genetics which make them more susceptible to developing mental disturbances which can then lead them to be easily swayed, which can then lead to violence. There's always something.

Blaming pop culture is a cop out. It's a scapegoat for simpletons.
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Apr 22 2013, 07:35 PM
Just misguided and in need of leadership
so, you agree - ppl are kind of zombies and become fools sometimes.
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Anastasia Beaverhausen
Apr 23 2013, 01:05 PM
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Apr 22 2013, 07:35 PM
Just misguided and in need of leadership
so, you agree - ppl are kind of zombies and become fools sometimes.
In the right environment, humans can become easily brainwashed.
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Anastasia Beaverhausen
Apr 23 2013, 01:05 PM
GimmeSomeRiver
Apr 22 2013, 07:35 PM
Just misguided and in need of leadership
so, you agree - ppl are kind of zombies and become fools sometimes.
People can become disillusioned and turn to the wrong person/party for guidance. It's happening to Greece right now where the far right is the third most popular party because of poverty and crime. But that's real life and takes very specific economic and political circumstances, not pop culture and Gaga covering one eye.


Jesus Christ, are you really that naive?
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Fuckbuddy, I completely agree. I thought I was the only one who was feeling this way. While my utmost sympathies obviously lie with the victims of this pair, I can't help but feel so sad for the bomber who's still alive. As you say, it really is a grave tragedy that a human being at the age of 19, can turn into a mass murderer like this. From a newborn baby to a killer in just 19 short years. From an innocent child, to ending up at the age of 19, dying, covered in blood in a boat in someone's back yard, with the eyes of the world watching you and numerous deaths on your hands. Nobody could have wanted that, including him. The fact that he has been living in a relatively peaceful country for the past decade, yet still ended up carrying out this atrocity...it just defies logic. I'm guessing he was led by his older brother. But how did he get so fucked up too? It's so pathetic, in the most dark sense of the word. However it happened, it really is a profound human tragedy and failure of family. His life is over now whatever happens. They're saying he'll probably get the death penalty anyway, which I can't see him having a problem with.

But yes, despite my *despising* his actions, I genuinely can't help myself feeling sorry for the poor bastard. Still has to face the consequences though, whatever they are.
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jeez, i accidentally deleted my own post. how imbecile am i? :manson:
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Apr 24 2013, 12:55 AM
jeez, i accidentally deleted my own post. how imbecile am i? :manson:
:lmao: I've done that in the past too! I don't think I can get it back for you, sorry!
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Apr 24 2013, 12:48 AM
Fuckbuddy, I completely agree. I thought I was the only one who was feeling this way. While my utmost sympathies obviously lie with the victims of this pair, I can't help but feel so sad for the bomber who's still alive. As you say, it really is a grave tragedy that a human being at the age of 19, can turn into a mass murderer like this. From a newborn baby to a killer in just 19 short years. From an innocent child, to ending up at the age of 19, dying, covered in blood in a boat in someone's back yard, with the eyes of the world watching you and numerous deaths on your hands. Nobody could have wanted that, including him. The fact that he has been living in a relatively peaceful country for the past decade, yet still ended up carrying out this atrocity...it just defies logic. I'm guessing he was led by his older brother. But how did he get so fucked up too? It's so pathetic, in the most dark sense of the word. However it happened, it really is a profound human tragedy and failure of family. His life is over now whatever happens. They're saying he'll probably get the death penalty anyway, which I can't see him having a problem with.

But yes, despite my *despising* his actions, I genuinely can't help myself feeling sorry for the poor bastard. Still has to face the consequences though, whatever they are.
weren't they both students at mit? one needs to have a hell of some brains to enter that community...and there were two out of the same family, such a wasted opportunity to get something good out of their intelligence.

video footage of the bombings was pretty frightening, that goes without saying. video footage of the boy in the boat from that helicopter camera was a bit more heartbreaking - if u excuse my qualification- just because it signaled the turning point of an immigrant boy with brains becoming a trapped animal and a dead man walking shortly thereafter. viewing the fate of a sole person is always more heartbreaking because one can connect to certain feelings of survival and self conscience. as for his sentence, surely he must be blamed for all the tragedy and devastation he's caused. however, i cannot but feel genuinely bad for him.
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Apr 24 2013, 01:20 AM
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Apr 24 2013, 12:48 AM
Fuckbuddy, I completely agree. I thought I was the only one who was feeling this way. While my utmost sympathies obviously lie with the victims of this pair, I can't help but feel so sad for the bomber who's still alive. As you say, it really is a grave tragedy that a human being at the age of 19, can turn into a mass murderer like this. From a newborn baby to a killer in just 19 short years. From an innocent child, to ending up at the age of 19, dying, covered in blood in a boat in someone's back yard, with the eyes of the world watching you and numerous deaths on your hands. Nobody could have wanted that, including him. The fact that he has been living in a relatively peaceful country for the past decade, yet still ended up carrying out this atrocity...it just defies logic. I'm guessing he was led by his older brother. But how did he get so fucked up too? It's so pathetic, in the most dark sense of the word. However it happened, it really is a profound human tragedy and failure of family. His life is over now whatever happens. They're saying he'll probably get the death penalty anyway, which I can't see him having a problem with.

But yes, despite my *despising* his actions, I genuinely can't help myself feeling sorry for the poor bastard. Still has to face the consequences though, whatever they are.
weren't they both students at mit? one needs to have a hell of some brains to enter that community...and there were two out of the same family, such a wasted opportunity to get something good out of their intelligence.

video footage of the bombings was pretty frightening, that goes without saying. video footage of the boy in the boat from that helicopter camera was a bit more heartbreaking - if u excuse my qualification- just because it signaled the turning point of an immigrant boy with brains becoming a trapped animal and a dead man walking shortly thereafter. viewing the fate of a sole person is always more heartbreaking because one can connect to certain feelings of survival and self conscience. as for his sentence, surely he must be blamed for all the tragedy and devastation he's caused. however, i cannot but feel genuinely bad for him.
Exactly. From one human being to another human being, I honestly couldn't help but look at him in that boat and think "Damn...how did you get to this point?". I felt awful that someone could end up like this.
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Incidentally, if reports are true and he actually ran over his elder brother, I wonder if they'll also charge him with his own brother's death. :chuckle:
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