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| Courtney about Pagan Babies; Interesting tweets for a while | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 6 2010, 07:12 PM (457 Views) | |
| desperateK | Jan 6 2010, 07:12 PM Post #1 |
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Pretty on the Inside
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Interesting facts and thoughts about Pagan Babies that she wrote on Twitter today (i've corrected some spelling and grammar to make it easier to read): "Jeffrey Brent Mann! The only ex boyfriend who is living and who doesn't talk to me, he's the guy who blows shit up; if you ever see "Tropic Thunder" he's the demo guy on that (that's the guy "Malibu" is about mixed with Kurt). He never believed i would make it, his mother Bernadene Mann (trainspotters, look for the sugar babylon/baby doll song named for her) is one of my great mentors and loves along with Hal Wilner, Bono, Stipe, Panos, Billy and a few others. Look for the song me, Kat Bjelland and band did called "Bernadene", it was the first song i ever wrote. "Cold Shoulders" was a sophomoric attempt at a Cocteau Twins vibe with lyrics you could hear, funny we deconstructed. Me, Kat and Jennifer Finch, it's really scratchy, there's no master but we turned into rock monsters from trying to do a sophisticated version of an all girl band that could take on Cocteau Twins, Echo & the Bunnymen and Bauhaus to desontructing entirely. Kat and i entered into primal scream therapy as a living, but i could write a hell of a good R.E.M. song during "Pretty on the Inside". Why the hell did we do that? Do any of you know what i'm talking about? In Liverpool, Julian Cope called his band with Ian Mculloch "Crucial 3"; i always felt me, Finch and Kat were the "Crucial Three", we were sooo good man we could've taken over the world seriously. Listen to "Best Sunday Dress", it's lost, it's so decayed you can't even hear the song so i finished it twenty years later." i love it when she tells stories like this, i love it when she dwells on the MUSICAL, she's got a pretty amazing career and lots of anecdotes. it's the best thing i've read from her in a very long time after being real tired of nonsense about the new album. really refreshing. |
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| infinitemusic | Jan 6 2010, 09:34 PM Post #2 |
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Yeah, that's really interesting. Too bad she gets so stuck on inane shit like fashion, because she's one hell of an interesting person. And does it seem like she's saying she regrets Pretty on the Inside? I really don't get why they (she and Eric) were always so weirded out by that album in the later days, didn't they ever like the Stooges? |
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| desperateK | Jan 7 2010, 08:49 AM Post #3 |
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Pretty on the Inside
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yes, i remember them telling the same thing on the "Celebrity Skin" promo interviews, how they had all these pop influences in the early days that they hid under a ball of noise cause (as Courtney put it) "no one wanted a melody line in there". i think she refered to their peers and how, in some ways, a band's integrity was related to making a specific style of punk rock in the early nineties... or so they thought, cause there were plenty of well-respected bands that had a lot of pop hooks. |
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| desperateK | Jan 7 2010, 09:28 AM Post #4 |
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Pretty on the Inside
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by the way, Drownsoda, are there any news about the Pagan Babes demo upgrade that was announced as "coming soon" in june last year? |
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| Drownsoda | Jan 7 2010, 12:39 PM Post #5 |
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This is the backstory behind it: "I am the original source for the [circulating] Pagan Babies demo. A copy was made for me by Janis Tanaka from a poorly preserved cassette dubbed from the original master. [ANA(2), basically] I was asked to not pass it around when it was made for me. I stupidly dubbed it for a friend who agreed to keep it to himself, but ultimately deceived me and leaked it. However he leaked lower-bitrate mp3s. I recently ripped my cassette into WAV files if you would be interested. I believe that since these recordings are already readily available they should be heard in best quality possible." He was also in the middle of moving house, so he said he'd be a while. After no reply I messaged him in June and got "sorry, I've had alot going on! Will get those uploaded soon! and send you links immediately after. give me a bit, but I promise you soon!" I've sent two messages afterwards and still no reply. I'll e-mail him today to see if there's any development! ![]() For the meantime though, I have transferred the cassette I have (I must of taped over the other songs, because the tape only included "Best Sunday Dress" and "Cold Shoulders.") The volume is higher, and they're lossless, so if anyone's interested in it I can upload. |
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| desperateK | Jan 7 2010, 12:43 PM Post #6 |
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it would be awesome if you could upload what you have in the meantime; i just love these four songs, i hope you get some kind of response this time
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| Drownsoda | Jan 7 2010, 01:04 PM Post #7 |
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Here you go: http://z15.invisionfree.com/Turpentine_For...?showtopic=1165 ![]() I also love the four songs, espcially "Cold Shoulders", there's just something so enticing about it. I've e-mailed him again, cross your fingers! |
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| desperateK | Jan 7 2010, 01:14 PM Post #8 |
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Pretty on the Inside
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thanks a lot!! |
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| punklikeleno | Jan 26 2010, 03:03 PM Post #9 |
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Here are some newly surfaced pics :![]() ![]() ![]() don't credit as your own from http://fuckyeahkatbjelland.tumblr.com/ |
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| drowned_scars | Jan 26 2010, 04:10 PM Post #10 |
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Cool!
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| SpinCycleEgo | May 1 2010, 02:54 AM Post #11 |
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Very cool! We have so little info about this period that it's great to have some commentary straight from Courtney about it. Thanks for the info and the pics! |
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