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<b><font color=#FF0000>[SOLVED]</font></b>What the hell happened to th
Topic Started: Aug 18 2008, 03:20 PM (185 Views)
knnywood364
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Random generic thing.

We have a warning system at these boards... but it doesn't seem to be used at all.

1st warning = Warning issued
2nd warning = Another warning issued
3rd warning = 3 day suspension along with Mediation
4th warning = 7 day suspension, your posts are watched over for 3 days, and there will be Mediation
5th warning = Banned from the forum

Instead, people just end up banned instead of getting suspensions. Why is this?
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xBlackthornWolfx
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knnywood364
Aug 18 2008, 11:20 PM
We have a warning system at these boards... but it doesn't seem to be used at all.

1st warning = Warning issued
2nd warning = Another warning issued
3rd warning = 3 day suspension along with Mediation
4th warning = 7 day suspension, your posts are watched over for 3 days, and there will be Mediation
5th warning = Banned from the forum

Instead, people just end up banned instead of getting suspensions. Why is this?

I have been wondering the same exact thing actually. Ever since I got back I've seen nothing but people get banned and no warns issued. It's there for a reason people.
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Aurorae


Everything is done for a reason. Some things are worth more then others.
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xBlackthornWolfx
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Aurorae
Aug 18 2008, 11:41 PM
Everything is done for a reason. Some things are worth more then others.

If someone does something bad you don't just instant ban them. You give them a warn or two, maybe three, and have them suspended for a few days. If they come back and have not changed, THAT'S when you ban. Unless the person is a threat to the forum.
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Parin
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knnywood364
Aug 18 2008, 11:20 PM
We have a warning system at these boards... but it doesn't seem to be used at all.

1st warning = Warning issued
2nd warning = Another warning issued
3rd warning = 3 day suspension along with Mediation
4th warning = 7 day suspension, your posts are watched over for 3 days, and there will be Mediation
5th warning = Banned from the forum

Instead, people just end up banned instead of getting suspensions. Why is this?

Warnings are handed out for warnable offenses. But theres a point that you can reach to where warnings simply don't justify the offense anymore.

If the staff here finds that the rule broken is broken so severely to an unbearable extent, we shall assume that the case calls for immediate action and therefore shall not allow the account to operate any longer. The reason we are quick to ban is because we've had a decent number of trolls and and flat out trouble makers recently. We're not quick to bring judgement, you're just not seeing the full picture here.

006 had multiple accounts. Thats a bannable offense. Not only that, but he was a troll, a very infamous one at that. He laughed in the face of any staff here, as if he were proclaiming that a warn couldn't hurt him. How can a warning phase a member like that?

Twister Prower, our most recent ban, had been posting everywhere flaming and bashing comic topics for no appearnt reason. It wasn't constructive criticism, it was just rude and uncalled for. THEN he proceeded to make a topic about sonic shooting everyone and blowing their brains out, then shooting themselves. Then he created a topic saying that he was banned and the this forum "****ING SUCKS". (Obviously nothing had been done yet, as he could still post. And at the time, we were considering only suspending him and giving him another warn.)

We ban when we feel a member has reached the point of no return, where they're so hell bent on making everyone else's experience here horrible. That kind of member will never be welcomed here and will always be quickly banned for that reason alone; We don't that type here, and i'm sure no one does or ever will. But please don't think we never take the time out to carefully consider the member's actions. We don't just ban because we're too lazy to come up with another punishment, we ban because we think it will benefit the forum as a whole to have said member gone, and that the member simply cant be convinced to behave more properly. We've undone bans before or refrained from banning members that should've rightfully been banned because we felt they COULD act properly.

The whole point of the ban system is to keep those out suited too immature or unsuitable for this forum.

Hope this answers your question. :]
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knnywood364
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Random generic thing.

Oh, I've had members that say that they won't be affected by a warn that throw temper tantrums when they get one. What they think is that you aren't going to take any action. If you warn or even suspend them, they'll get the idea that they can't just do whatever they want.
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xBlackthornWolfx
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Cyalume
Aug 18 2008, 11:49 PM
knnywood364
Aug 18 2008, 11:20 PM
We have a warning system at these boards... but it doesn't seem to be used at all.

1st warning = Warning issued
2nd warning = Another warning issued
3rd warning = 3 day suspension along with Mediation
4th warning = 7 day suspension, your posts are watched over for 3 days, and there will be Mediation
5th warning = Banned from the forum

Instead, people just end up banned instead of getting suspensions.  Why is this?

Warnings are handed out for warnable offenses. But theres a point that you can reach to where warnings simply don't justify the offense anymore.

If the staff here finds that the rule broken is broken so severely to an unbearable extent, we shall assume that the case calls for immediate action and therefore shall not allow the account to operate any longer. The reason we are quick to ban is because we've had a decent number of trolls and and flat out trouble makers recently. We're not quick to bring judgement, you're just not seeing the full picture here.

006 had multiple accounts. Thats a bannable offense. Not only that, but he was a troll, a very infamous one at that. He laughed in the face of any staff here, as if he were proclaiming that a warn couldn't hurt him. How can a warning phase a member like that?

Twister Prower, our most recent ban, had been posting everywhere flaming and bashing comic topics for no appearnt reason. It wasn't constructive criticism, it was just rude and uncalled for. THEN he proceeded to make a topic about sonic shooting everyone and blowing their brains out, then shooting themselves. Then he created a topic saying that he was banned and the this forum "****ING SUCKS". (Obviously nothing had been done yet, as he could still post. And at the time, we were considering only suspending him and giving him another warn.)

We ban when we feel a member has reached the point of no return, where they're so hell bent on making everyone else's experience here horrible. That kind of member will never be welcomed here and will always be quickly banned for that reason alone; We don't that type here, and i'm sure no one does or ever will. But please don't think we never take the time out to carefully consider the member's actions. We don't just ban because we're too lazy to come up with another punishment, we ban because we think it will benefit the forum as a whole to have said member gone, and that the member simply cant be convinced to behave more properly. We've undone bans before or refrained from banning members that should've rightfully been banned because we felt they COULD act properly.

The whole point of the ban system is to keep those out suited too immature or unsuitable for this forum.

Hope this answers your question. :]

Well ok, that does clear things up a lot. Though I still kind of think that the instant bans are given out a little more often then most. Suspension for a few days or week works just as well and if they come back and still have not changed in that time then a ban is more then welcome.
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Parin
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Ryan Prower
Aug 18 2008, 11:58 PM
Cyalume
Aug 18 2008, 11:49 PM
knnywood364
Aug 18 2008, 11:20 PM
We have a warning system at these boards... but it doesn't seem to be used at all.

1st warning = Warning issued
2nd warning = Another warning issued
3rd warning = 3 day suspension along with Mediation
4th warning = 7 day suspension, your posts are watched over for 3 days, and there will be Mediation
5th warning = Banned from the forum

Instead, people just end up banned instead of getting suspensions.  Why is this?

Warnings are handed out for warnable offenses. But theres a point that you can reach to where warnings simply don't justify the offense anymore.

If the staff here finds that the rule broken is broken so severely to an unbearable extent, we shall assume that the case calls for immediate action and therefore shall not allow the account to operate any longer. The reason we are quick to ban is because we've had a decent number of trolls and and flat out trouble makers recently. We're not quick to bring judgement, you're just not seeing the full picture here.

006 had multiple accounts. Thats a bannable offense. Not only that, but he was a troll, a very infamous one at that. He laughed in the face of any staff here, as if he were proclaiming that a warn couldn't hurt him. How can a warning phase a member like that?

Twister Prower, our most recent ban, had been posting everywhere flaming and bashing comic topics for no appearnt reason. It wasn't constructive criticism, it was just rude and uncalled for. THEN he proceeded to make a topic about sonic shooting everyone and blowing their brains out, then shooting themselves. Then he created a topic saying that he was banned and the this forum "****ING SUCKS". (Obviously nothing had been done yet, as he could still post. And at the time, we were considering only suspending him and giving him another warn.)

We ban when we feel a member has reached the point of no return, where they're so hell bent on making everyone else's experience here horrible. That kind of member will never be welcomed here and will always be quickly banned for that reason alone; We don't that type here, and i'm sure no one does or ever will. But please don't think we never take the time out to carefully consider the member's actions. We don't just ban because we're too lazy to come up with another punishment, we ban because we think it will benefit the forum as a whole to have said member gone, and that the member simply cant be convinced to behave more properly. We've undone bans before or refrained from banning members that should've rightfully been banned because we felt they COULD act properly.

The whole point of the ban system is to keep those out suited too immature or unsuitable for this forum.

Hope this answers your question. :]

Well ok, that does clear things up a lot. Though I still kind of think that the instant bans are given out a little more often then most. Suspension for a few days or week works just as well and if they come back and still have not changed in that time then a ban is more then welcome.

Though I do agree to an extent, I don't think a member who yells "THIS FORUM ****ING SUCKS" has any intents on doing any good upon his return. If anything, he'll have built up hatred for the place and will have tried to troll the place upon return.

The original plan for twister was a one week suspension and a warn, to my knowledge. However, after this recent episode of his, the "goodbye" topic he made, it was decided that he really couldn't survive here. :/
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Yes I know. Twister was more then welcome to be banned. Just a bit misleading with all these people getting instant bans is all. Though I do admit I have seen a few bad ones.

Don't know what happened to Twister though, he used to be very nice and even my boyfriend about a year ago. o.o
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knnywood364
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Random generic thing.

He survived for, what, 600 or so posts? Maybe he just had a bad day. I did the same thing, but to a lesser extent, before.
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Shadre


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Maz
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To add to what Crys said, there is no point in giving mere warns to trolls. They wont change and we did give Twister a fair chance. Why should we wait around until he flames the members of the forum again just to ban people such as him? It's for the benefit of the forum and people aren't just banned without a fair chance.

BTW: We did actually consider the fact that he may have just been in a bad mood, we gave him time to cool off but his intentions were clear after the crap he spewed up today.

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Tim "J"
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You know...comparing the staff here at TTFF and the staff at Sonic Anime...these guys are actualy very nice and try to do what's best for the members. If they banned someone very quickly, I'm confident they'll have a good reason why. Beleve it or not the government of this forum isn't evil. xD
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Aug 19 2008, 12:16 AM
To add to what Crys said, there is no point in giving mere warns to trolls. They wont change and we did give Twister a fair chance. Why should we wait around until he flames the members of the forum again just to ban people such as him? It's for the benefit of the forum and people aren't just banned without a fair chance.

He also gave my comic a 4.6/10 D=<. [/Joke]
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Tim "J"
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Aha, you were lucky. He gave me a -214578985969/10! xD [/alsojoke]
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