| Amended Colonies Act; Legislative Revision | |
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| Charlie T. O. Jones | May 24 2015, 02:44 PM Post #1 |
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AMENDMENT WITHDRAWN Edited by Charlie T. O. Jones, May 28 2015, 09:20 PM.
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| 46566 | May 24 2015, 03:06 PM Post #2 |
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I'm against the amendments. Under the old law everyone is capped at 5 colonies. If this passes i could establish 19 colonies if i wanted to. I think such things could lead to more problems with abuse. While the population is fixed i would still be bigger then most nations here. This would unbalance things more. |
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| Charlie T. O. Jones | May 24 2015, 04:00 PM Post #3 |
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Then what about a cap at 5 Colonies, but a requirement that for each colony, a nation should have 2 Billion citizens, i.e. if Croxoco has just over 8 Billion citizens, it would have the right to establish 4 colonies. If 46566 had 18 Billion citizens, it would be entitled to 9 colonies, but because of the cap, it would only have the right to establish 5. |
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| Ajerrin | May 26 2015, 03:27 AM Post #4 |
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I too am against any change to this. I'm not a fan of the current rules and wish not to add colonies at all. |
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| Charlie T. O. Jones | May 26 2015, 10:15 AM Post #5 |
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Preamble: The intention of this Act is to expand the scope and depth of RP on Yukon by allowing nations of sufficient size to establish overseas colonies. Article 1 - Establishment of Colonies * (Sections 1.1 - 1.5 of original Act Repealed) **1.1) Nations may only establish 1 Colony for every 5 Billion people in their nation (if Arcadia has 18 Billion people, it would have the right to establish 3 Colonies, while if Croxoco has 9 Billion people, it would have the right to establish only 1 Colony). The number of Colonies a nation could establish will be capped at 3 Colonies per nation, so that if a nation had 20 Billion people, thus was theoretically entitled to establish 4 Colonies, because of the cap, no matter how large a nation would be, the maximum amount of colonies a single nation could establish would be fixed at 3. 1.2 (Formerly 1.6)) All nations wishing to establish a colony must justify this wish in in character terms; approval of Colony requests come at the discretion of the Role Play Moderation Team, on the advice of the Minister for Cartography. 1.3 (Formerly 1.7)) The Minister for Cartography shall have the right to veto any colony claim. Reason for a veto may include but are not limited; attempts at boxing a nation, attempts to claim strategically valuable territory, attempts to unrealistically expand the territory of the home nation. Article 2 - Rules *2.1) Colonies must start out as a colonial or semi-autonomous entity under the control of the parent nation. *Colonies may be established by Parent Nations in geographic areas claimed, but not settled, by the Parent Nation* *2.2) Colonies may have a maximum population of *500 Million (Formerly 200 million)*, which is subtracted from that of the parent nation, and their land area shall be calculated accordingly based on the map claim rules. ⦁ *1) Colonies are assumed to have a GDP per Capita of no more than *90% of the parent nation (Formerly a GDP per Capita of no more than 50% of the parent nation)*. ⦁ 2) Colonies may field a military force following the rules of a nation of equivalent size under the Military Regulation Act 2015. ⦁ 2.3) Colonies may after a period of time declare independence, if they do so however their population remains fixed at the level it was at the point it gained independence and the normal rules for a colony still apply in terms of its national statistics. 2.4) Colonies may be abandoned by the parent nation at any time, the population returns to the parent nation. 2.5) Nations maintaining one or more colonies must provide a factbook for each colony including at minimum population, GDP per Capita, and Government details. *2.6) Colonies cannot have their territory absorbed into that of the parent nation *unless the parent nation has first abandoned the colony and then reclaimed the territory through the normal process of territory claiming (Formerly, the territory of a Colony could never be absorbed by the Parent State)* 2.7) Colonies may not territorially expand under any circumstances. **2.8) Colonies, for the purposes of this Act, shall be defined as "An autonomous territory, not connected to the Parent Nation, whose Foreign Relations are handled by the Parent Nation, and whose Domestic and Economic Affairs may be regulated by the Parent Nation without the representation of the Colony in the Parent Nation's Government". **2.9) Colonies may not be established in geographic areas if such colonial establishment is calculated to intefere with or disrupt the trade, foreign policy or defence of nearby Sovereign States. The Colonies of one Parent Nation however may be established near the Colonies of another Parent Nation. In any case, no Colony may be established upon lands or territories physically distant and not immediately accessible to the parent nation (colonies may be distant overseas, but is shall be legally impossible for parent nations to establish colonies if the parent nation could not access such colonies without intruding onto unclaimed territory, the territory of foreign states, or flying through the airspace of foreign states or unclaimed territory) **2.10) Parent Nations shall charter colonies through in character legislation, such legislation clearly stating the territory the colony established shall occupy, the number of persons sent to settle the colony, the specific persons designated to lead settlement expeditions, the structure of the colonial government, and the powers granted to the colonial government (specific to each branch of colonial government). In addtion, such legislation must state the powers over the colony granted to the Parent Nation, and must clearly state that sovereignty over the Colony is vested with the Parent Nation. Changes in the act are marked with an asterisk (*). Sections of the act which are amended in this proposal are marked with an asterisk (i.e. *2.1). Content which has been added to the act or amended is marked by two asterisks, one prefixing the amendment, and one suffixing the amendment (i.e. *Amendment.............*). Entirely new sections are market with two asterisks (i.e. **1.1) A large change in this act is that Few colonies can be established under this act, but parent nations can be more flexible with the statisitcs of the colonies they can establish. In addition, under this amended version, it would be slightly more difficult to establish colonies. This new proposal is far less radical than my first proposal, and in some ways, is more prohibitive, yet in other ways, is more permissive, so that it is, in theory, more agreeable to those who wish to establish colonies, while also suiting those who wish to see minimal colonial establisment. |
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| Arcadia | May 26 2015, 11:06 AM Post #6 |
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From the end of today this Act has a further 3 days of debate. |
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| Charlie T. O. Jones | May 26 2015, 02:53 PM Post #7 |
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Any thoughts on this new proposal then? It pacifies the anti-colonists by: - Capping the Number of Colonies to a maximum of 3 - Allowing fewer nations to have more colonies, the majority of players only entitled to have 0, 1 or 2 colonies, by virtue of population - Makes it more difficult to establish a colony due to geographical restrictions and a requirement to publish, in extensive detail, the specific legislation creating aforesaid colonies - Maintains the majority of restrictions imposed by the original act, including the subtraction of colony populations from parent nations and the ban on expansion of colonial territory It also pacifies the pro-colonists by: - Raising the maximum population of a colony from 200 million to 500 million - Raising the maximum GDP/Capita to 90% of Parent Nation GDP/Capita |
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| Arcadia | May 26 2015, 03:29 PM Post #8 |
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I am personally ambivalent towards this, except towards the removal of the MoC's veto power, which contravene's the MoC's existing overall authority over the map. I understand the desire for reasons to be given for a refusal, however I do this anyway and refrain from arbitrary judgments where possible. That said I am not entitled to vote so I can only offer my opinion. Edited by Arcadia, May 26 2015, 03:29 PM.
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| 46566 | May 26 2015, 03:55 PM Post #9 |
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It seems that you jumped to the other end of the spectrum and limited everything by allot. It would make it to much of a hassle to have colonies. |
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| Charlie T. O. Jones | May 26 2015, 04:28 PM Post #10 |
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Actually, all I wanted was to Raise the maximum population of colonies from 200 Million to 500 Million, and raise the maximum GDP/Capita of Colonies to 90% of that of the parent nation. There are however staunch anti-colonists out there, so I included some compromises. Upon reflecting this however, I will wait until tomorrow, when there has been more input, before I make another proposal. |
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| Charlie T. O. Jones | May 27 2015, 05:42 PM Post #11 |
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FINAL PROPOSAL Preamble: The intention of this Act is to expand the scope and depth of RP on Yukon by allowing nations of sufficient size to establish overseas colonies. Article 1 - Establishment of Colonies: 1.1) Any nation with a population over 1 billion may establish a first colony. 1.2) Any nation with a population over 2.5 billion may establish a second colony. 1.3) Any nation with a population over 5 billion may establish a third colony. 1.4) Any nation with a population over 10 billion may establish a fourth colony. 1.5) Any nation with a population over 15 billion may establish a fifth colony. 1.6) All nations wishing to establish a colony must justify this wish in in character terms; approval of Colony requests come at the discretion of the Role Play Moderation Team, on the advice of the Minister for Cartography. 1.7) The Minister for Cartography shall have the right to veto any colony claim. Reason for a veto may include but are not limited; attempts at boxing a nation, attempts to claim strategically valuable territory, attempts to unrealistically expand the territory of the home nation. Article 2 - Rules *2.1) Colonies must start out as a colonial or semi-autonomous entity under the control of the parent nation. *This may include territory claimed, but not settled, by the parent nation.* *2.2) Colonies may have a maximum population of *350 Million (formerly 200 million)*, which is subtracted from that of the parent nation, and their land area shall be calculated accordingly based on the map claim rules. ⦁*1) Colonies are assumed to have a GDP per Capita of no more than *90% (formerly 50%)* of the parent nation. ⦁2) Colonies may field a military force following the rules of a nation of equivalent size under the Military Regulation Act 2015. ⦁*3) A nation may choose to establish a 'super colony' or 'dominion' comprised of some or all of the colonies a parent nation would be entitled to establish under this act. Such a Dominion would have the population and statistics of the total number of colonies in that dominion. ⦁ 2.3) Colonies may after a period of time declare independence, if they do so however their population remains fixed at the level it was at the point it gained independence and the normal rules for a colony still apply in terms of its national statistics. 2.4) Colonies may be abandoned by the parent nation at any time, the population returns to the parent nation. 2.5) Nations maintaining one or more colonies must provide a factbook for each colony including at minimum population, GDP per Capita, and Government details. 2.6) Colonies cannot have their territory absorbed into that of the parent nation EVER. 2.7) Colonies may not territorially expand. The changes made to the original act are as follows: - Section 2.1 is amended, with the amendment marked with asterisks (*) - Section 2.2 is amended, with the amendment marked with asterisks (*) - Section 2.2.1 is amended, with the amendment market with asterisks (*) - Section 2.2.3 did not originally exist, but has been added to the original act All changed sections are marked with an asterisk (*) Please consider these changes, they are ever so slight. At least consisder the amendments to sections 2.1, 2.2 and 2.2.1., as they clarify the circumstances by which territory can be settled by a colony, and alter the maximum population and GDP/Capita of a colony permitted by the Colonies Act. I have also added a section 2.2.3, As i think it would be a good idea if nations were able to establish larger colonies by combining the colonies they are entitled to establish into a singular, more manageable colony. Edited by Charlie T. O. Jones, May 27 2015, 05:43 PM.
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| Unibearia | May 28 2015, 09:05 PM Post #12 |
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I support it. You know why Croxoco... |
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| Charlie T. O. Jones | May 28 2015, 09:19 PM Post #13 |
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Don't bother, I'm withdrawing my proposal from the Chamber. |
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| Arcadia | May 28 2015, 09:39 PM Post #14 |
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Are you certain you wish to withdraw the proposal? |
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| Charlie T. O. Jones | May 28 2015, 09:42 PM Post #15 |
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Yeah, waste of time if the vast majority are either opposed or not even remotely interested. |
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| Arcadia | May 28 2015, 09:46 PM Post #16 |
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Very well; the proposal is withdrawn. |
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