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United Nations Applications; Applications and Concerns
Topic Started: Dec 26 2007, 06:52 PM (2,561 Views)
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The United Nations (UN) is an international organization whose stated aims are to facilitate cooperation in international law, international security, economic development, social progress and human rights issues. The United Nations was founded in 1945 to replace the League of Nations, in the hope that it would intervene in conflicts between states and thereby avoid war.

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Great Britain
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Great Britain is a founding member of this organization and stands by it.
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Egypt
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Syria would like to take her seat the United Nations once full independence is attained (when all French troops leave the country).
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West Germany would like to enter the UN after the sovereignity is restored as ONLY legitime German state. West Germany will not tolerate the Soviet Occupation Zone as member of the UN and vetoes it.

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Britain reminds occupied West Germany that she does not have any veto on who enters the United Nations; on the other hand, we take the points of view of all Germans into account.

The de facto division of Germany into occupied zones will most probably be followed by the de jure division of Germany into two separate states and it is the position of Britain at this time in December 1945 that such a solution is the closest to our own interests.
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I have to remind Great Britain and all other Western states that no one recognized the GDR until the 1970s! This was the main reason that no German state was member of the UN directly until the 70s. So West Germany vetoed de facto the GDR and the GDR vice versa. Only "informally" both German states were members.

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OOC: Remember that we are 'in character' here, Adler, so reference to the 1970s is going to look pretty odd. Edit your post to read more like a West German from December 1945.
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The Hallstein doctrine came up not before 1955, but before no West German government acted in another way. Also in 1945 any German government in the west saw the states in the east, which were not disbanded as of 1952, as parts of a united Germany. There were no thoughts about a division. So from a games point of view we have to speed this up here. Otherwise not East Germany nor I can act in a proper way.

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OOC: Direct questions and comments through PMs or the use of 'OOC:' . As it is, the final disposition and treatment of the occupied zones of Germany has yet to be decided, and may take a different path from reality. The dissolution of the former German state and the establishment of follow on states in Trizonia and the Soviet Zone will follow once everyone gets online.
The general consensus is to move quickly but not unrealistically towards a limited form of sovereignty and a tacit acceptance of both East and West Germany as separate entities. This is the best solution for gameplay
However, do try to keep in-character remarks in character to the time; use of the term 'veto' is probably overstepping West Germany's situation at the time.
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OOC: There will be the founding of two seperate states on the Reich territory. Otherwise East Germany would be superflicious. And given the situation back then no West German government would have accepted an East German state. And because of not hurting a needed ally the other western powers accepted and supported the German position until the Ostpolitik of the 70s. As I assume here a Cold War like situation I demand the same for my Allies here. I know we are playing in a different way but with the setup we have to live. There will be two different German states and, in contrast to the EG position, WG never recognized EG as nation (but as state, but here more like a federal state. Similar to the 1 China policy).

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OOC: That will no doubt develop once the states are established and in the the alliance blocs. Until then, the position will be something different; the Cold War hasn't kicked in yet, along with the accompanying attitudes and necessities.
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OOC: The Cold War started with the collapse of the German forces and Hitler's death. The world was already devided in blocks. Some only didn't know.

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OOC: The Cold War as we consider it does not kick off yet - this is not an opinion, but one of the working guidelines we have here; ergo, you have no allies and are in no position to demand anything.
We are going to RP the beginning of the Cold War.
Further correspondence can be done out of this thread.
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OOC: Sorry for posting it publically, but this is too important: Can I assume this game goes into somekind of Cold War with two blocks? Anything else would be very surprising. I am also not wanting to interfere the rule making. However as I am supposing there will be blocks and there will be a German division I will act this way. Everything else will be very surprising.

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P.S.: Now, if you want, we can deal that on the PM way.
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Canada would like to join such an international venture as the United Nations Organization.
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