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Swedish defence industry
Topic Started: Apr 10 2008, 05:20 PM (1,206 Views)
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Can a sample pack of the first three export items be arranged?
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Yes it can and it will be immediately.
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Belgrade is ready to wire the money, how much do they Swedish want for their sample pack?
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The sample pack is free to our Yugoslav friends.
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We thank our Swedish friends heartily for this!
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The Kingdom of Netherlands have decided to purchase:

-1000: Carl Gustav submachinegun (kulsprutepistol, kpist) m/45 – "The Swedish K"
-50: Carl Gustav recoilless grenade rifle (granatgevär, grg) m/48
-50: Bofors 40 mm L/70 anti-aircraft automatic cannon (luftvärnsautomatkanon, lvakan) m/48

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Defense Minister: Paul C.H.

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Prime minister: Pieter Jacobus Oud.
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Apr 11 2008, 02:17 PM
The Kingdom of Netherlands have decided to purchase:

-1000: Carl Gustav submachinegun (kulsprutepistol, kpist) m/45 – "The Swedish K"
-50: Carl Gustav recoilless grenade rifle (granatgevär, grg) m/48
-50: Bofors 40 mm L/70 anti-aircraft automatic cannon (luftvärnsautomatkanon, lvakan) m/48

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Defense Minister: Paul C.H.

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Prime minister: Pieter Jacobus Oud.

Sweden acknowledges the Dutch order and delivery will be made during late 1948.
Total cost is $6,200,000.
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We will accept this.
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Mexico would like to order 100 Carl Gustav Recoiless Rifles and acquire the license for the Bofors 40mm Cannon.
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Sweden acknowledges the Mexican order and delivery of the 100 CG will be made in november-december 1948. The total cost of these is $1,000,000.

Regarding the licence we wonder how many Bofors L70 Mexico plans to manufacture. The licence fee is 24% of cost = $24,000/gun and you're going to have to set up a manufacturing plant too, buying much of the production equipment for the guns from Bofors. Usually in this game a new factory costs around $50,000,000 in all, between a eighth and a sixth of this sum for Bofors production equipment and training in using it. Our point is that Mexico has to manufacture quite a lot of Bofors L70 until the investments are paid off, and it might be more economical just buying the guns.

There will also be some sort of export restrictions in the licence agreement: Bofors naturally doesn't want to compete on the international armaments market against licence-produced copies of its own products.
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Mexico was looking at about 200+ cannons, 50 to arm a number of patrol boats, the rest as land based AA artillery.

The idea behind licensing was to spur the development of a strong military manufacturing base. In the short term it does make sense to buy the guns straight from Bofors. Perhaps as an alternative, Swedish military manufactures might wish to invest abroad in Mexico? Perhaps they can be incited with low labor costs and low taxes?
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Even though the notion of lower manufacturing costs is tempting we wish in the light of recent wartime experiences to keep all armaments production by Swedish companies inside our borders for the time being.

We didn't mean to discourage Mexican licence-production, just to be honest about the economic consequences. It is true that it would be a good foundation of an indigenous armaments industry and make Mexico less dependant on imports. Future licence agreements concerning other Bofors products would also require far lower investments if Mexico has already invested in a dedicated manufacturing plant.
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Upon reviewing the various weapons sent, the Yugoslavian Army has the following stance on the following weapons

Carl Gustav submachine gun:

The Army found it very useful and would like to review the option to buy more.

Though a complaint among soldiers was the shoulder support.

The Army would like to know if it could be re-designed for Yugoslavian specifications?

Carl Gustav recoilless grenade rifle:

We also found this very useful and will review the possibilities of buying more

Bofors 40 mm L/70 anti-aircraft automatic cannon

The Yugoslavian army also feels that this is a extremely useful tool, and will most likely be buying more of them in the future.
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Upon reviewing the various weapons sent, the Yugoslavian Army has the following stance on the following weapons

Carl Gustav submachine gun:

The Army found it very useful and would like to review the option to buy more.

Though a complaint among soldiers was the shoulder support.

The Army would like to know if it could be re-designed for Yugoslavian specifications?

A limited redesign to Yugoslav specs is possible. What would be the problem with the folding butt? (OOC: It's very sturdy, much better than on the later H&K and FN weapons of the Swedish army. I've seen it used to hammer down tent pegs, and Swedish soldiers and policemen were trained to use the butt as a bludgeon in close-combat /OOC)

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Carl Gustav recoilless grenade rifle:

We also found this very useful and will review the possibilities of buying more

Bofors 40 mm L/70 anti-aircraft automatic cannon

The Yugoslavian army also feels that this is a extremely useful tool, and will most likely be buying more of them in the future.

You are welcome to order them at your convenience.
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