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Why isn't Luffy a logia?
Topic Started: May 6 2015, 11:04 PM (56 Views)
The Iron Lad
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I've been wondering this for a while I hope someone can give me a clear answer
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i could be totally off base but i think the answer is that he can't actually produce more rubber, he's essentially limited to the amount of rubber that makes up his bodymass, which just happens to be very, very stretchy

whereas a rubber logia would be able to create huge amounts of rubber out of thin air the way aokiji can create ice, akainu can create magma,etc. etc.

but this is more something i just came up with on the spot than an official explanation (no idea what that is or if there IS one) so yeah
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Because logias are too mainstream :umad
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Luffy's devil fruit has been stated to been a paramecia from the start and like it was stated eariler its the lack of creation of other elements that prevent it from being classified as a logia
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1. Doesn't produce his element.
This is where things get a bit separated. For example, it's why people like Magellan aren't really logias either. They can PRODUCE their substance (which may or may not be considered natural.) but he can't turn into it where as people like Luffy are that 'element' but can't really produce it/control existing rubber.

2. Rubber doesn't really seem to be natural, at least not the way his is.
You have things like liquid latex which comes from trees, but that substance seems to be quite different than what Luffy is. He seems more like a stretchy condom/chewed bubble gum/workout band as opposed to liquid, white stuff.
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y'know the idea of a main character having a logia like ability from the beginning of the story thinking he's invincible only to get pummeled by a haki user then striving to learn it himself seems like a cool idea
sorry for the off topicness, just had this idea
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My understanding is that because he can't produce rubber nor manipulate outside rubber the way a logia can. I also believe logias can manipulate outside sources of their element, eg Sabo can take a lit candle and manipulate the fire, but i'm not entirely sure on that.

As others mentioned, it's similar to why Magellan is a paramecia and not a logia in the only has one aspect of logia in that he can create poisons, but he isn't poison himself.
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His fruit only grants him a rubber body.
it doesn't allow him to produce rubber out of thin air.
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May 6 2015, 11:08 PM
i could be totally off base but i think the answer is that he can't actually produce more rubber, he's essentially limited to the amount of rubber that makes up his bodymass, which just happens to be very, very stretchy

whereas a rubber logia would be able to create huge amounts of rubber out of thin air the way aokiji can create ice, akainu can create magma,etc. etc.

but this is more something i just came up with on the spot than an official explanation (no idea what that is or if there IS one) so yeah
Even if there was a Devil fruit that allows a person to 'create/produce' rubber, that doesn't necessarily mean that the Devil fruit class from which their ability falls under would be the 'Logia' class because we've already seen that there are tons of Devil fruits that allow the consumer to 'create' a substance/material without necessarily being logias in having the same functions as Logia users who become intangible.

Rubber isn't an element, therefore it's impossible that there would exist a 'Rubber Logia'

At best, the ability to 'produce' rubber from your body or cover parts of your body, or entire body with rubber as opposed to becoming a rubber man 24/7 like Luffy would be similar to Mr. Galdino aka mr.3 who can produce wax out from his body and create hardened armor with his wax for defensive purposes but in the end he constantly is in his 'human' form or 'base' form.

Even so, there are elemental type Devil fruits that seem like they fall under the Logia class category but are paramecias; see senor pink's sui sui no mi or pica's golem fruit etc.
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It really comes down to tangibility when dealing with logias, Magellan can produce poison but he's a paramecia, but he's not made of poison, he can control all his poison, but is still able too be struck under his poison, as where people like Cariboo/Aokiji/Akainu/Kizaru/Ace are completely made of and can control whatever their particular element/substance may be. They can produce it at will and turn themselves into it at will. Paramecia's seem to have a more simple sub structure to the ability.
The one exception really for logia's is Blackbeard(Teach), He is darkness, but it appears to make his physical body also draw everything in, this means he is quite susceptible to strong Haki, we'll have to see another fighting side to Teach for him to be able to compete with Luffy, As I see it, Luffy's fighting style allows him to counter blackbeard someone decently, extremely fast movement, proficient Haki, just land physical blows on Blackbeard and he takes some serious damage to the downfall of the Yami Yami no mi. But with the multiple fruits and theories on possibly even more fruits(cerebrus, Etc.) also makes him a pretty strong opponent for Luffy.
But yeah, Logia's all come down to tangibility, Blackbeard being the exception so far.
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