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Chaos Shadow Sep 10 2009, 07:14 PM Post #1
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Yes.
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Yeay. I can finally start.
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Interesting I must say, I like the bit of losing a little bit of yourself for power. But there are absolutely no clue to what the tamer is looking for? A name, a legend, no nothing? That kind of makes it hard to search for nothing. (I could manage it.) But still marks me as a lil shifty.

But don't get me wrong. Me likes ^_^
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Nope, no clue. Your choice how you find out about the Benefactors.
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So can they be diffrent ppl?
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*shrugs*


~vague~vague~vague~
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XD so shady. And Post in my Updates about what you think of Enix, pleaseeee ^_^.
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Could you give us a description of what the Benefactors look like?
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Could you give us a description of what the Benefactors look like?

I just wrote this come on guys!
 
The nature of benefactors is not wholly known. Some say it's a group of individuals who wander the island; others insist that it's the same person with constantly shifting guises.


So no. I really can't.
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well...that could make things interesting....
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Did a little reading around and...

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Developing AntiVirus abilities is a fairly self-explanatory statement; a Tamer or Digimon will be able to combat viruses. At lower levels of development, the Tamer will be capable of purging minor Viruses from themselves, but will not be able to purge Viruses from others. Moderate levels of the technique will allow them to purge moderately powerful Viruses from themselves or their Partner, and will allow them to begin purging mild Viruses from others. Mastery of the skill allows them to purge all but the most powerful or deeply ingrained Viruses from their targets (that is, Code White).

Normal Tamers must rely on the presence of artefacts to grant them innate ability to purge viruses; however, even the most powerful artefacts are no match for a Surveyor's ability to purge viruses up to Code Blue naturally.


So, wouldn't Phase 5 AntiVirus be Blue instead of Green?

Just pointing that out....
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No. There might be one more quest to upgrade to that level, but no. As you can see, Surveyors 'naturally' begin with absolutely no difference from tamers anyway.
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"...to offer your voice, you will be unable to speak again..."

Huh, this totally reminds me of some animated movie musical about a mermaid who trades her voice to some octopus lady for the power to walk on land...

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Ah well, I guess it will come to me.



UNDER THE SEEAAA, UNDERRR THE SEEAAAA!

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I don't have any particular interest in doing this quest, yet I'm interested solely in the idea of having Simon sacrifice something utterly inane and then the Benefactor angrily leaving and making him battle Michelle Goodman.

"What do I have to do for Level Four?"

"MICHELLE!"

"God damn it."
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"What do I have to do for Level Four?"

"MICHELLE!"

"God damn it."

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Oh sweet mercy.

/mind in gutter


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"...to offer your voice, you will be unable to speak again..."

Huh, this totally reminds me of some animated movie musical about a mermaid who trades her voice to some octopus lady for the power to walk on land...


Actually... I haven't seen The Little Mermaid for, like... fifteen years or something. The 'voice' example came from the game Drakengard (which I've never actually played), where the main character gave up his voice in order to be telepathically linked to a dragon.

Each of the characters had to give up something to be linked to whatever they made a deal with. My personal favorite is, I think, another guy who is linked to a dragon and gave up... his hair.
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But doesn't having no hair in a videogame automatically downgrade you by 99 levels? It's inconceivable!
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I bet the guy who gave up his voice felt really stupid when he met the guy who gave up his hair. And they'd both feel really stupid if they met someone who gave up their appendix.
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I bet the guy who gave up his voice felt really stupid when he met the guy who gave up his hair. And they'd both feel really stupid if they met someone who gave up their appendix.

This reminds me of a discussion we had back in high school...

The teacher asked us if we would give up our two pinky toes for a billion dollars (our drama teacher was kind of a weird guy). Only me and five other out of a class of thirty said we would.

It kind of blew my mind a bit really; you could easily walk/run/jump/function without them and a billion dollars could get you A HELL of a lot of socks to cover it up. Actually, with a billion bucks you could probably get the cosmetic surgery to get fake toes put on. I mean, if it was both your legs maybe, but are people really all that attached to their pinky toes?
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I wouldn't agree to it for the simple fact that I question the motives of somebody who would be willing to pay me that much for having a non-vital digit removed. Clearly, there's something sinister going on.
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Also how are they being removed, and where? I imagine that having anything chopped off, even pinky toes is going to hurt, that's more then of a reason for me. Second Is this going to be done in a sanitary environment with sanitary tools and done by a medical staff? the wounds might not be all that big but you could still easily get infected, suffer some nasty blood lose. Probably not enough to go into shock but still.

Point is you have to think these things through. Also by high school you should have realized a million isn't all that much, and that when you die of an infection you can't take it with you, sucker!
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Well fist of all, it was a billion dollars, not a million.

Second, yes, this was all discussed in class.

Your toes would be surgically removed by doctors while you were under general anesthetic, the only pain you would feel would be in recovery after wards (but no lifetime pain sort of thing). There is also no chance of infection, period.

The conditions that my teacher gave were that your toes get removed, then you get a billion bucks. No strings attached. I'm not saying that this would be the case in real life, but in this scenario, that's how it works.

Also, my questioning is this:

Why does taking the billion have to be labeled as a greedy decision?

The money is yours to do whatever you want with it. I'm sure an Aids charity or the poverty stricken kids in Africa would LOVE to see that kind of money. Take the billion and DONATE IT if you want to.

I don't know about you guys but if I could give that much money to those who really, really need it, with no real ill cost to me, then I would gladly kiss my toes goodbye (er... if I was that flexible).
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...so no strings attached for you, but the horrific things that are being done thanks to your contribution of the pinky toe go undiscussed? Do you know what potential for evil the pinky toe could hold?

Of course you don't. Because nobody's bothered to study it. Which is why this fellow -- this mad, evil fellow -- is asking for donations from as many people as possible, and giving them such great compensation in order to attract the most people to him. Of course he can't take them from dead individuals, he's already tried that, but he has reason to believe that a pinky toe, still freshly taken from a victim and preserved quickly and properly, could hold untold forces.

And even if they can't actually being used for evil, that's still fsking creepyp and I don't care how safe and sanitary it all is, I don't want somebody like that going near any part of my body, unnecessary, already severed, or otherwise.
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Personally, I'm a coward. I just can't bring myself to let anyone hack off bits of me unless it's absolutely necessary.
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No, "no strings" means no strings period, at all, for anybody. This includes evil pinky plots.
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No, "no strings" means no strings period, at all, for anybody. This includes evil pinky plots.

Like you would know about them. Nor would the person asking. And of course you wouldn't be told because that would have a pretty obvious affect on your decision.

...

OH HAY GUYS THIS THREAD IS ABOUT ME ACTUALLY PUTTING UP A QUEST AREN'T YOU PROUD!
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Personally, I'm a coward. I just can't bring myself to let anyone hack off bits of me unless it's absolutely necessary.

So am I, and yes it would be pretty creepy, but like I say, there are people out there who need the money a heck of a lot more than I need my toes.

To each his own, though. I hope your toes console you as the poverty-stricken kids in Africa that you could have helped to save are dying. >.>
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OH HAY GUYS THIS THREAD IS ABOUT ME ACTUALLY PUTTING UP A QUEST AREN'T YOU PROUD!

Actually, yes. I am proud. You are allowing us to move forward on our path of digital dominance. I salute you... XD
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Hey, I think we lost track of what this thread is really about.

Doing Michelle Goodman.
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Oh yes. You know what I think? That would--

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Are all emotions fair game? Just thought I'd ask before I started.
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I'm slightly scared about what that question potentially entails.

Yes, but bear in mind that you can't give up something that you're really, honestly willing (or even hoping) to part with, or that if it would seem like something you're willing to part with it will eventually bite you in the ass.
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So then you would probably have to give up one of the positive or neutral emotions that fit your character (Love, Remorse, sadness, joy, compassion, doubt) instead on one of the negative emotions (hatred, rage, annoyance, fear)

Would that be a correct assumption?
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It would be preferable, although if you can write it well enough you could conceivably give up what's typically seen as a 'negative' emotion; even those have their purpose. But overall, yes, they would ask for something positive.
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James should give up his fur. That would be epic. Bald fox on the loose!
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James should give up his fur. That would be epic. Bald fox on the loose!

You win.

Something. I don't know what. But you win it.
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I am not giving up fur....
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What about him giving up his tail? If I was a fox(taur) I think my tail would be pretty precious to me.
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It varies from Benefactor to Benefactor what each of them wants (if its supposedly true that there are a small group of them). The one I run into wants an emotion.

Hu...maybe since Ancient is a warrior, he'd have to give up his pride?
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It varies from person to person, not necessarily Benefactor to Benefactor. It's whatever would be important to you. If you're not a very emotional person to begin with, or you're very proud of a particular trait of yours, then taking an emotion would be mostly pointless.

Mai's just playing with you, pretty obviously.

Besides, the tail is a vital counter-balancing mechanism, especially for a creature that walks digitigrade. Giving up your tail would result in face-planting quite a bit more. Which would be funny, but not really an intention.
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Ugh....ok, I'm dropping emotions.

What about sentimental gifts, like Ancient's first sword? He made it himself...and burned himself plenty of times in the process.

How would that work itself out? Would the sword get smaller?
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I imagine it would chip and fall apart. But other than 'I made it myself', are there any sentiments wrapped up in the sword? Because like the page says, sentimental gifts are acceptable, especially if there's a lot of emotional memory tied up in them; a locket from an old flame, a picture of home, Dad's heirloom pocket watch.
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The sword was given to him by one of the native foxtaurs in the village he lived in. He restored the sword, burning himself multiple times in the process, and, with that sword, he was able to successfully learn and preform some of his most powerful moves. That blade is sort of like a physical representation of his determination. Its almost as if the sword is a piece of himself. I'd say that's probably the closest thing to his heart.
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Wouldn't the memory of what he did during that time be more valuable than the sword? He'd eventually end up wandering around, wondering why he's carrying a slightly beat-up old sword. Forgetting what the heck one of the most important items you hold is would be far more daunting than losing just the sword. As a bonus, you also forget the strong techniques you developed. Of course, this would mess with the character's mental state.

Or maybe he could pay with the special techniques he learned during that time, forcing him to learn new ones and, y'know, develop. How? Loss and permanent inability to regain his muscle memory of those moves. Awareness of the painfully slow loss of his favourite sword techniques. Of course, you need to have him use them a few times, eventually showing him botching them up and getting mauled by a stray Gazimon.

I wouldn't call someone paying with their pride an appropriate price when you're supposed to hand over something precious. If anything, you'd hand over what you're prideful of.

Of course, now I'm wondering what Goodman's price was. Her good judgement?
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Of course, now I'm wondering what Goodman's price was. Her good judgement?

Nobody ever asks why she runs around alone across the island...
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Oh right. That explains that one sentence in her NPC profile. I thought she just ate him or something.
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Hmmm if the strength of a Surveyor's power is a measured from the connection they have with their parted items then Goodman must of really adored her digi.

But, I don't think I want to be a Surveyor anymore. Nova wouldn't wants to give up anything special to him for power. Which is weird consider his vice is Lust... wonder should it be Greed then. *shrugs*
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If I may suggest something more serious:

What about trading the ability to ever wield a sword again? That would be intense for someone who loves the craft of sword fighting.

Every time you pick up a sword it would break, or burn your hands, or something.

You could even find that it would work to an advantage if you go with the former. Want to break an enemies sword? Just give it a quick poke and it's toast!
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@ Mai-The entire reason I threw down Ancient as a samurai in the first place was because that was one of the things I daydreamed about. It's his entire character. If Ancient loses the ability to wield a sword, he isn't a classic samurai anymore...and that's why I created Ancient in that way: to be a classic samurai. Heck, he wouldn't be a samurai in general in my eyes. I love swords. I love the abilitaty of decapitating my opposition. If I had Ancient give up the ability to wield a sword, I'd be creating a new character and transfering my entire team over to that individual...and after that, I'd be ditching Ancient. So...uh...no, we're not doing that.

@Ray-Yours seems more doable without having to kill Ancient. I think I may do that.
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Mai Sep 15 2009, 08:51 PM Post #49
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Well, I'd hardly call it creating a knew character, he just wouldn't have a sword.

I actually think it would give you a chance to branch out and try something knew with his character. Y'know? Like if he really really loved his swordsmanship, then he would really be hurt deeply, you could even get him to question: "Am I really just my sword, or am I something more than that?"

In terms of writing and developing him, you can get A LOT of leverage out of that. Even make him a kind of new brand of samurai.

There is a lot more to being a samurai then just carrying a sword. In fact, I would say that it is one of the smallest parts of being a samurai.
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NathanS Sep 15 2009, 09:09 PM Post #50
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Well that just gave me the idea of giving Halle my, shall we say dislike of swords in a world were guns are available. With what you said about ancient her sporting an attitude of swords being obsolete, get with the time already could really get on his nerves. You know maybe that could be like a side mission I have for Halle, for her to alienate every single main character on the island. It would certainly work well with “the greats story never told" arc I have planned for her and Elk…

(As a side note historically the arrow was at times more largely used then the sword by the samurai.)
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