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The RPing Experiment; DCD v. The Current Standard
Topic Started: Oct 27 2009, 10:44 PM (124 Views)
Adrian.Creed Oct 27 2009, 10:44 PM Post #1
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Apparently, we're a dying breed of RPG, or at least one that is disappearing, in terms of quality. I posted a question on this on Facebook earlier tonight, after my brain virtually imploded-- which wasn't very comfortable.

"Why is it that an RPG, based on a 15 year old franchise, has produced far more talented writers, as opposed to current RPG's based on popular Anime?"

And I got a few comments from friends, that its quite possible that our generation has experienced an age-group gap. In that tiny gap between the age groups I honestly think there's been a decline in overall talent. Maybe its simply because I've spent most of my RPing time here, and have just gotten used to you guys writing brilliantly, whether it be action, or comedy.

It's always just great. (Really, you guys are honestly the best writers I've come across)

Recently, I figured I'd try a little experiment, just to see what popular anime RPG's are producing. And what people said was "great, awesome, writing" was really mediocre.

And I think it actually struck a chord with me, it didn't make me bored, but more or less....Saddened and frustrated that people don't read anymore (I had to remind three people consecutively to edit their posts, because it didn't flow with their previous action), and people simply can't analyze, swallow their pride and make an effort.

Granted, a lot of the world as real-life activities to tend to on a daily basis, and school/college is in session for most of the world's population at this time.

But it was just sad.

Interestingly, on DeviantArt.com this doesn't seem to be the case. People actually post good stuff on DeviantArt, because they're held to a minimal standard of quality. And some of the writing on Fanfiction.net isn't too bad either, same with MediaMiner.org; Yamisui, a personal favorite of mine, writes some beautiful spin-offs of Anime.

However, the one thing I miss most about these forums, is that they have tremendous amounts of traffic. Usually 20-30 people per day, I really miss that kind of traffic.

But on the flipside, DCD is a rarity, with its writing quality, but it has a low activity count. I've always wondered why this is; ZRS had a similar problem, and so did a Naruto RPG I tried to start. Perhaps it's the standard that we've created? Because we're down to maybe 12 people total?

But in a way this is a benefit to us; We're not being flooded with noobs. But we're rapidly approaching that point where our battles are "Titan Battles", where we need to fight at least High-Ultimate's for a challenge, and even that's too low for some of us (*cough* Caster *cough).

Its a weird trade off.

So as of Today, I've been conducting this little experiment, and working on lab stuff in the meantime, and I ran into such a brick wall with people that my brain imploded, and I desperately needed to get back to DCD.
>.<

Anybody have aspirin?
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Martillo Oct 29 2009, 09:43 AM Post #2
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Could be that digimon's a dying breed. All that's left are the ones that actually care and enjoy the concept. As a point if the franchise is 15 years old then chances are most people who RP it are going to be older than ,say, a more recent anime. I for one enjoy the lack of noobs, although some people my own level would be nice. Sure the slow post rate gets you down occasionally but people do (eventually) post.
Some of us struggle with champion level fights...
That could be a reason why so few people stick around. It's difficult to compete with the older core members in RPs, after all if your digimon is only a rookie its hardly going to be effective against most enemies you encounter. My tactic is just to invent novel enemies and just RP the combat but this doesn't work all the time. The only people left are the ones willing to put the time in to level up and risk the fact that so many characters are so much stronger than them.
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warriorjames Oct 29 2009, 01:02 PM Post #3
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Maybe people should ignore how strong the 'older core members' are and look up to them as roll-modles, saying "If I'm willing to invest 1-2 years in this, maybe I can become as strong as them."

They can also use what we write as refrences for how they should write...and if its not to par, Chaos or Ray will fix that...I can easily raise my hand on that one.

Seriously, we now have the karma system in place, which allows you to get stronger through pure RPing, and there's also battling digimon. If people invested a good month or two with some solid 3-4 karma posts, the Karma system could probably get their Rookie to 2/3 strength...maybe oven 3/4 strength. Throw in a few battles and they're set to jump to Champion, where the Karma system can help them in that stage as well.

But, that's just me....*throws Adrian a bottle of aspirin*
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Allosawyou2 Oct 29 2009, 03:22 PM Post #4
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Well, I'm kinda still, after a year (I showed up after the site move) the 'newb' of this place... other than possibly NathanS.

Something that dosen't help getting new members is the simple fact, that even when I type 'chaotic destini' and 'Nexus' together on any search engine, only the old, dead MSN Groups page comes up, and some place where you guys were before that.

This place dosen't.

I mean, as seen frequently in ATL, and now Steampunk, I'm suffering in our group battles. I basically just slashed a card in the ATL battle just passed, and narrowly avoided Ivymon becoming plant soup in Steampunk.

At least now I have two Ultimates, so I'm going to be heading up my Ultimates now... catching up slowly.

I feel I fall into comedy to some degree. The Demon Lords in ATL, and their general reactions to each other, kinda fits that bill. However, I would agree that my posts are not of the quality of say, Chaos and WarriorJames. (Or most of the people, for that matter)

However, I feel I've improved since Day 1. I've been bothered to stick with it. I'm also one of the more active people... at least in Multiperson RP's. (Almost all of IceAgumon's stats came from Karma or ATL's recent stat payout)
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NathanS Oct 29 2009, 06:12 PM Post #5
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Oct 29 2009, 03:22 PM
Well, I'm kinda still, after a year (I showed up after the site move) the 'newb' of this place... other than possibly NathanS.

no, you your newer then me, I'm just a slow writer.
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Twilight Oct 30 2009, 04:29 AM Post #6
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...no comment. *points dejectedly at his post count*
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Chaos Shadow Oct 31 2009, 08:37 PM Post #7
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To sum up:

1. We're awesome
2. People who run fights really need to pay attention to the power levels of the characters involved in the fights
3. We need a recruitment drive
4. ...because we're awesome
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NathanS Oct 31 2009, 09:38 PM Post #8
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I think a lot of it comes down to a few things. For one a lot of us are older then a lot of players on other sites and this ties into a few things, not the least of which is simple more experience writing.

The second is the ventures. This is a rather unique feature that means a fair amount of us are truly writing in the classic sense. RPing (the bread and butter of most well RP sites.) well very fun isn’t the best way to improve your writing skills. Characterization perhaps, but the format, having to leave things open and responding to the actions of a completely different person who might have a slightly view of how things are going and different ideas of were it should go isn’t what I’d call the best writing practice.

The final bit is, this isn’t trying to be any existing digimon world, and instead a lot of us seem to like the ideas presented in digimon then any one particular incarnation. This frees us up a lot. Now I can’t be certain since I don’t know which sites you’ve visited but I’m betting a lot of them, for example don’t just like the ideas behind Naruto but like the actual comic, I’m sorry manga, or anime itself. This I’m betting leads to some trouble with things like fight scenes. That is they try to implement a style of fighting presentation that was developed for images both moving and static, but in both cases often with an eye for a “cinematic” feeling* into prose.

Needless to say such an approach doesn't work very well. This is were our greater age also helps, we’ve read more, and without that much of an attachment to a single implantation of said ideas were free to express our ideas in manners more suited for prose. And with a large amount read we have a better idea of what works in prose. Example My fight scenes have been, well lacking. Any of you from before the move that for some reason read my training log and saw and somehow remember the fight between Lew and Maimun and then compared it with the brief struggle between Solaris and The Boogymon in the latest The Plot update, well the latter is only part of a ongoing fight I feel it’s my best fight description to date. Now when looking to improve I didn’t look at comics or mangas or any visual medium I went to books, specifically what many people consider one of the greatest writers of fight scenes in American literature, and I’d say by Crom it helped!**






*Just letting out some more comic nerd thoughts, that as static images comics can take on a more prose like feeling or a more cinematic feeling depending on how its done. Mainstream Manga almost always goes for cinematic.

** I wonder how many people will figure out who I’m talking about without googling Crom.
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