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| Sam)(ael | Mar 27 2009, 02:45 PM Post #46 |
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Thank you Very much Master Kai. I will prepare for them. When will I be able to pick my first path do you think? I am much interested in becoming a Consular, Scholar, Sentinel should I have enough time to learn all of them. |
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| Atarah | Mar 27 2009, 03:07 PM Post #47 |
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My apologies if it's not my place, but Atreyu was a Sentinel. A Sentinel is a cross between a Guardian and a Counselor, just so you know. Anyway, may the Force guide your training. |
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| Kai Stormwalker | Mar 27 2009, 06:15 PM Post #48 |
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We actually take a slightly different view of what a Sentinel. And, Sam)(ael, you may choose your path anytime. I know you are short on time, but it is usually easiest if you start by focusing on one and learn more later. |
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| Sam)(ael | Mar 28 2009, 12:37 AM Post #49 |
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Thank you Atarah, That makes sense. I want quality more than quantity. I definitely agree and I will be trying for just one before I leave. By the way, I really appreciate all that you have done for me Master Kai, and I am also grateful for master Silmerion as well. Your efforts are really helping me and for that and for you I am grateful. |
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| Silmerion Skywalker | Mar 28 2009, 03:09 AM Post #50 |
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We are very happy to be able to help you in some way. We are glad to have you here! Master Silmerion |
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| Sam)(ael | Mar 28 2009, 03:46 PM Post #51 |
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Thanks, It is very liberating to share my faith without imposing on other's social OCDs. |
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| Silmerion Skywalker | Mar 29 2009, 03:38 AM Post #52 |
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This is very liberating indeed and also interesting to share our Faith with followers of Jesus who come from many denominations and traditions! It makes each of us richer. Master Silmerion |
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| Ben Skywalker | Mar 29 2009, 09:11 PM Post #53 |
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What is an OCD? |
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| Sam)(ael | Mar 30 2009, 05:21 PM Post #54 |
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An OCD is and Obsessive-Compulsive-Disorder. Have you ever met a person who litterally CANNOT live with a dirty house? Someone who irons their socks and takes out the trash after one pretzel gets thrown away? OCD. Yes Master Silmerion! Rish is a good word. For instance, despite how many other congregations I have visited I really didn't know just how many differences there were between LDS members and many other general Christian Faiths. Even the differences with Baptists which are pretty close can be chasms sometimes. Any yet... We are all a part of the same faith in so many ways. I feel faith just as strong as I do from members of my church here, and wise and kindred spirits I can easily relate to. Because we all give our Glory to God and in him we are all the same. Servants to each other, and blessed members of the Real Kingdom. The Kingdom of Heaven. |
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| Sam)(ael | Mar 30 2009, 05:27 PM Post #55 |
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By the Way, I am choosing to be a Scholar. I will start the assignments and Study work. I might also put forward my 'Grand Holocrons' project as additional subject matter detailing my current Scholarly pursuits. |
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| Kai Stormwalker | Mar 30 2009, 07:35 PM Post #56 |
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You rank has been changed to Padawan Scholar. |
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| Sam)(ael | Mar 30 2009, 07:36 PM Post #57 |
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Thank you Master Kai. I have also finished all of the assignments and I only need to complete the Lesson from that section. I am going to spend several years on the Scholar Path and then perhaps take on Consular. |
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| Silmerion Skywalker | Mar 31 2009, 03:12 AM Post #58 |
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I think you will be an awesome Scholar and Consular. Master Silmerion |
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| Sam)(ael | Apr 6 2009, 01:55 PM Post #59 |
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Knight Assignment 1 The fire has Vanished This article is almost prophetic in it's predictions of the upcoming films considering that it was written shortly after Episode one was released. It sinks deep into the simularities of the two trilogies and manages to quickly assertain the degredation of the Jedi subtly realized in the next two films. Several key points which apply to us as Real Jedi were remarked upon in this article and each bears a very significant message to each of us. These are the 'Sins of the Real Jedi' if you will. The pitfalls and traps of our times. The Power of the Force --- What makes Jedi First we are introduced directly to the power of the force. Examples of two Jedi disrupting and basically waging battle on the whole trade mothership by themselves are presented. The ability to trick the mind and to negotiate as if with a razor blade are also powers attributed to both training and Jedi powers unavailable in that degree to others. With this we are told of how the 'will' of the force is to guide the Jedi and not the Jedi's own desires and motivations, in a simular pass at buddhism the Jedi believe in supplanting their own desires with the greater good, represented by this 'will' of the force later described at best as a perpetual mystery and one only to fully be understood by in the steps which it ascribes, the instincts of a force user which guide them onward. The contrast is that few Jedi seem to follow this doctrine well or at all though it is a common fixture throughout the entire storyline. It seems that the more the Jedi do, the less they follow the will of the force and the more they follow their own motivations. Did Anakin consider the will of the force when marrying Padme? Did Mace Windu even bother to consult the force as he prepared to execute Sidious? Was Yoda's great sensitivity to the flows of the force, EVER devoted toward assertaining the 'will' of the force? No. You will come to realize that this has lead each Jedi to folly and you might draw some understanding towards it's symbolism of Christianity when you think of this will of the force as God Himself. Qui-Gon was the first Jedi in the films (chronologically) who achieved immortality or the salvation of the Jedi. He was also the first and only Jedi who really listened to it's will and acted as a servant (for the most part) and not a master. It was he who passed on this secret of immortality and I draw that it symbolizes our responsability as Jedi. We are Servants of God. The force does operate for the Godless, but it is founded upon His eternal principles and it is, like all things, still his power. The will of the force is God's will and his constant caring influence on us, and all life. If a Jedi can be sensitive to this will and obey it over his or her own impulses and desires, not only can they escape great dangers and perpetuate great impossabilities, but in the end, as Servants of the Almighty, at death, they may rest in the Lord, gaining his Salvation and as promised immortality or eternal life. This section points out to myself that when a Jedi Parts with the will of the force, they are like a tree that has strayed from it's roots and they cease to be nourished and grow. They become dead though life still remains for a time. This in my opinion caused the fall of the Jedi. The withdrawal of the Jedi --- The Smell of Heresy Throughought the entire article it talks about how the Jedi have been more and more withdwarn from the affairs of the Galaxy only emerging from their sequestered training and philosophy to take part in the disputes and problems they view as threats. From infancy they begin to sever their ties to the people. Even indoctrination is suggested as padawans must apprentice themselves to a master and adapt to their teachings, being specifically molded into the Jedi way at stages until they are fully and irreversably Jedi. This withdrawal and a failure to connect with the people represents our own great sin. The failure to emerge from our own training. So often we get online and feel great about another successful lesson. Then we miss a siblings need of comfort, we decide not to help out in a situation where we could be useful to someone else, we fail to build on our relationships and go straight to be feeling like we are awsome because we are good Jedi. In the Movies Jedi got unattached this way to. Maybe Jedi shouldn't care about the approval or dissaproval of the masses, but they should have been serving more. A border dispute is no more important (even if it spells imminent war) than one beings need to be taught or just comforted. The threat of war is perpetual, the plight of all life begins with one life. Jedi's respect for life should not become vague, or their own level of commitment and true Jediism also becomes vague. At best. It is also remarked that the Jedi emerge from their sequestered training for one other purpose which we see also in real Jedi circles all over. To respond to the Smell of Heresy. The Sith. What are the Sith? They are force users much like the Jedi in structure who follow their own desires and passions instead of the greater good. The Jedi really are pretty relentless and single-minded in the movies and today in their attacks upon the Sith. Sadly they haven't got a clue in either situation. What does a Jedi become when they stop listening to the will of the force and start following their own designs? Oh Crud!!! their a Sith! How many youngling have you seen emergy from their relative obscurity in Jedi training to bash on the Sith? It happens periodically with even and especially the younger and less experienced Members. Do they understand that if they are not in line with the will of the force that they have become closely akin to the Sith? Probably not. This difference, this threat is very close. Do you realize how much prejudice is between the Sith and Jedi both in the fiction and the real world? And yet the one point that makes the greatest difference is who the force user listens to. Themselves, or God. This is a Sin of the Jedi if they fail to realize it and a trap many fall into. In fact, all of the Jedi in the movies participated in this horrific example of failure except perhaps Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Luke. Luke's final realization which really did restore balance to the force was that he wouldn't do what HE wanted to because "I'm a Jedi". He submitted to the Will of the force. Symbolically he submitted to God's will. A Galaxy for Everyone --- The truely Valuable battle is for all The article further goes about the process of listing the figures who played major roles in the story with absolutely no help from the force. Han, Lando, Wedge and others. It points out that the force users in the third movie of the original trilogy had all once again sequestered themselves in the death star for their own private battle of morals and ethics while the people decided the fate of the galaxy in the real battle outside. In the movies the personifications in each Jedi and Sith or their morals make them larger than life. The moral? Even in the conflict of Good and Evil, you can miss out on the real battle happening outside your vaunted halls of wisdom or darkness. The real battle is fought by normal people and though a Jedi might personify the greatest values, what good are they if they are hidden away in their own private conflict? Cut off from the people a Jedi is of no use. Further enlightenment might be understood by looking at the forces of darkness present in the Death star during the battle to destroy the second death star. We learn that evil is like the darkness one of the natural tendencies in everything. Though even a small light can banish any strength of darkness, the dark will always return once the light goes out. Light is temporary as we have learned. It is aparent in our own natures, it is aparent in deep space where even suns die eventually. Evil is a natural tendency in creatures who have choice. In order to choose good we must have the option of chosing evil or there would be no difference and thus no good. For that reason, evil will almost always exist. It will almost always return. Evil is not a person, but a force acting within persons. That is why war is always a threat in our day, why crime is always a little present. Now, did Sidious and Vader need to be present for the death star to destroy planets? Nope. Albeit, though Sidious and Vader were the roots of such great evils as the imperial fleets and the death star, despite the fact that luke was as a Jedi best equiped to destroy the Sith, darkness does not die. We can sever a thousand heads and always a new face will present evil and perpetuate cataclysm. The Victory is in the individual who turns to the light, not in the number of evils you destroy, though they have at least some merit no doubt. The real point is that the common people are where the real battle is fought. Their lives are the victory (or should we say, their conversion to the light is). A Jedi is not useful if they always participate in a private battle of values or against great evils. Why? Because evil will always return, but each person can be saved. How many lives might Luke have saved if he had been part of the mission on the mood of endor or part of the assault on the death star? True he saved his father, and for the Story, that is enough, but as Jedi we must realize the value of a universe for all and our place in it, or we become cut off from what really matters in a library of dusty values and wisdom which never sees light. Books which can never be read. |
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| Silmerion Skywalker | Apr 7 2009, 02:24 AM Post #60 |
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You did an awesome job. I like very much the image of the tree which loses its roots to represent a Jedi who ceases to follow the Will of the Force. I like your point of view about the necessity for the Jedi to be active with the people, but I personally think that fighting our private battles is essential too as well as solitude for prayer, meditation or training. The Jedi can be helpful only if they are personally well prepared and some energetical battles are far beyond physical human battles. Of course, this is only my personal opinion. I wanted to share it with you as reading your work interested me very much. Master Silmerion |
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