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| Kai Stormwalker | Apr 23 2009, 09:56 PM Post #106 |
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Yes, there are assignments for Masters. The Council is deciding whether you should be given access to them. |
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| Silmerion Skywalker | Apr 24 2009, 03:13 AM Post #107 |
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Your answers are good and you worked a lot on these Assignments. The Council will let you know about what they wish you to do. Master Silmerion |
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| Sam)(ael | Apr 26 2009, 03:08 AM Post #108 |
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I am not afraid to be obvious. How was I arrogant? |
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| Kai Stormwalker | Apr 27 2009, 05:53 AM Post #109 |
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You have demonstrated that you are not willing to consider ideas that are in conflict with those that you already hold. Even Jesus changed his point of view when evidence presented itself. Consider the Samaritan woman who asked him to heal her daughter. His response was that he had come to the Jews. So she said that even puppies were allowed to eat the crumbs that fell from their master's table. Jesus reconsidered and healed her daughter. This is why Jesus spent many hours each morning alone with God. Even he needed to spend time with his Father to learn the truth of compassion and love. Since this site is dedicated to promoting not only the teachings of Jesus in their original context, but also the necessity of being in constant submission to God who reveals his will to us, we cannot promote you to the rank of master. You seem to place man's traditions over God's truth. I know that Master Silmerion PMed you regarding this although I don't know exactly what she said. But this is the joint decision of the Council. |
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| Sam)(ael | Apr 27 2009, 06:33 AM Post #110 |
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Not to be argumentative, but your ideas are not God's doctrine. You are just as human as I. Why can you not be mistaken just as easily? I have listened but that does not mean I agree. Am I wrong not to believe as you do even after hearing you out several times? This website is about accepting differences as they are. Not expecting people to change because you don't agree. (Unless this site is a tool where your specific denomination puts the smackdown on other faiths, which was not what I joined thinking it was.) If this is a right and wrong website where only one set of beliefs is accepted than it is a denomination. Not THE christian order of jedi knights. Just A Christian order of jedi knights. I haven't asked you to change your mind at any point, I haven't belittled you for being different. Why did I PM you with questions about when you were LDS if I wasn't considering what changed from Mormon to Master Kai? Jesus didn't find out he was wrong and then repent because he had done something bad. He just changed his mind, not his beliefs. If you are holding a five dollar bill in your hand does it make you wrong if you change your mind on which kind of candy bar you spend it on? Its yours to spend. The Master, moved with compassion, decided that Samaritan woman would use the five dollars a lot better than the jews after she showed such faith and determination. Of course Jesus spent time learning from God. But I am not Jesus and you are not God. Apparantly what we are learning from God is... different? Should we waste time arguing or agree on the core (which is still the same) and serve the Lord? I suppose the most pressing question here is whether or not this site practices Religious toleration. Do I have to agree with the 'Master Kai' perspective in order to progress? Your answer you can keep, but it might mean a lot to you personally to see what it is and what it means. As I see it, the difference between my beliefs and yours are that mine are just more regulated and strict. Do we not both remain Chaste? What about love? Do we deny love? How about forgiveness and peace and mercy and valiance in serving others? Actions are where our arguments should take place if we are really that different right? So do you disagree with the millions my church spent on Katrina victims in supplies and aid? How about feeding the poor which I do monthly? How about being polite. Heck, we don't even disagree on bathing regularly! Not much of a difference. If I am so obviously wrong than my actions should easily set me apart from you right? If the fruits of the mind are so different then the actions should be fairly obvious in contrast. I fed the poor today. I spoke in church yesterday. I taught my last (sniff) 11 year-old class yesterday. I spent time with my family, and I spent time in Gods presence as much as I could these last few weeks in preperation to go teach about Jesus in Australia. If you have and clear objections than maybe we are on opposite sides of the field, but otherwise we do seem to be doing pretty much the same things. Are we not on the same side then? I am not asking to become a Master so much as for more to learn. Is that not somewhat humble? I have appreciated the last couple assignments immensly and it helps me deal with a lot of pressure. I am having some medical problems and its nice to have something I can still do really well (if you consider those assignments well-done at least). I can look other places but I like what is here. ... Look I don't want to cause argument. Satan wins when contention is present. If I can't express what I believe (not that you even have to pay attention to it) than maybe I should leave and let you keep doing whatever it is you were doing. |
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| Kai Stormwalker | Apr 28 2009, 05:42 AM Post #111 |
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There is only one Church. Different denominations are different people's views of what the Church should be. We are an interdenominational order run by people from different denominations who believe that in many ways the Church has grown away from what Christ intended. It has grown legalistic and rigid; in many ways reverting back to the legalism of the Old Testament. As it says in the gospel of John - "The law came through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." John 1:17 I don't to know everything nor to be perfect. But I have devoted many years of my life to learning the truth, to searching the original languages of scripture, and waiting at the feet of God for the conviction and instruction of His Holy Spirit. You are of course free to believe whatever you wish. Only God can change a person's heart. We will go ahead doing whatever it is we do - which is sharing the love and grace that God has given us through Jesus Christ in order to bring justice to the poor, whether they be physically poor or just poor in spirit. |
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| Sam)(ael | Apr 28 2009, 06:34 PM Post #112 |
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Well alright, that sounds fair. I might suggest that even the legalistic faithful who do as they are told will not be kept from heaven or even classed under you whether you are right or wrong. I wish you all well. Whether I would leave of not I will be gone in a week so I leave you nothing but love. Thank you Master Kai for everything. I have looked up to you since I was a youngling. If you remember I have been learning from you even since your first quigong lessons. For that and much more thank you. Also Master Silmerion you have meant a lot to me every day. I can't thank you enough. So I will say it once and then leave it at that. Thank you. |
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| Silmerion Skywalker | Apr 29 2009, 02:57 AM Post #113 |
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I think one of the most beautiful things here is precisely that we can communicate with followers of Jesus from all the world who have different points of view, I think it makes us richer. Samael, I'm really convinced that you will give much love to the persons you will meet during your mission. I've always felt close to you in the Force and I really hope I'll get news from you sometimes when you'll be gone. God Bless You Master Silmerion |
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| Kai Stormwalker | Apr 29 2009, 06:56 AM Post #114 |
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I have no intention of judging who will get into heaven. I do remember once hearing someone say that when we get to heaven the first things we will probably say are: "Where is so and so?" "How did you get here?" and "How did I get here?" |
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| Sam)(ael | Apr 30 2009, 05:51 PM Post #115 |
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You have to admit... While we aren't there at least, its kind of funny. I bet plenty of people will be surprised I am there! lol Or maybe when I get there they will start crying because they couldn't imagine they were in a good place if I was there. The Lord has said he doesn't remember the sins he has forgiven so if My life were a book written by God mine would look mostly like a journal with a short entry every couple pages like "went to store---" "Ate cake---" "found-" "said I am sorry and hugged his sister before---" Even a severly retarded kid could read my book lol. See Sam)(ael. See Sam)(ael run. Run Sam)(ael Run! |
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| Silmerion Skywalker | May 1 2009, 05:23 AM Post #116 |
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Probably my book would look very much like yours! Master Silmerion |
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