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The essential dilemma of human existence; ...what do we do with the poo?
Topic Started: Oct 28 2007, 10:42 PM (93 Views)
Eral
Kopi Luwak
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/dis...3555531569.html

I believe the real reason humans were nomadic was that by moving on from place to place they didn't have to worry about being contaminated by their own mess. From the minute we got lazy and started hanging around in the same spot, we have been faced with the problems caused by poo.

The people in Muckaty (ironic name) must be feeling really lucky they got chosen. Funny how no-one ever answers "next to my house" when asked "where shall we put the yucky stuff?", but are happy to name a place they think will be perfect. "Far away from me" is always the best place. "Down a big hole" has replaced "into the nearest river" and that's an improvement, but I can't help worrying it hasn't been properly thought through. Paranoia, I guess. :unsure:

I'm wondering if Little Johnny's current campaign to strip Aboriginal communities of their land rights is to stop little problems like this cropping up. His plan to herd indigenous people living in remote communities into the town centres means nobody around to ask questions about the trucks. :cyber:

I know the real reason we want to promote nuclear power is so Australia can make lots of money from selling uranium, but really, we know that making a lot of toxic poo is going to cause big problems. "Fingers crossed" isn't a good environmental policy.

I'm going to google how that storage facility in America is going.
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Still, I think that until we stop using so much power, and until there will be a more manageable amount of humans walking the earth, or until efficient fusion power becomes feasible, nuclear power is our best option. It's efficient, and the waste goes into bunkers instead of straight into the air. People tend to forget that we are actually breathing the 'poo' of our other energy sources.
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I don't feel all that confident about those bunkers. Landfill = contaminated ground water. Bunkers = really bad landfill :huh1:

Yes, we are breathing toxins from our other energy sources, and drinking them, and eating them, and we know it isn't good for us. Waiting for the Apocalypse to wipe us all out does seem to be the favoured government strategy for dealing effectively with pollution, but funnily enough lots of people don't like it.

I hear in Athens they decided to go solar to help with their air pollution problems. Does this mean in twenty years they are going to have a big bunch of old solar batteries they are going to want to bury somewhere?
How do people in Europe feel about those bunkers? And, where are they?
I remember protests at a railway crossing in Germany? were a regular yearly media feature, when trains carrying waste from one side of Europe to another made a bunch of conservationists very cross. They might have put the train line underground to solve the problem. :witch:
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I sure as hell would rather build my house on top of a nuclear waste bunker, than next to a landfill or a conventional power plant.

Obviously these bunker are supposed to be so tightly sealed that there won't be any kind of pollution.

The bugger with solar and wind energy is that it's so damn expensive. The installations are not efficient. at. all.
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The real estate value would be terrible if you did. :o

My knowledge of the efficiency of wind turbines comes from playing SimCity2000. They certainly were not my preferred energy solution. I don't know if the technology has improved since then. Our state govt is building wind farms amidst controversy right now. Either some friend of a government minister own the rights to builds wind turbines, or they pay off in the long term. :cyber:

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