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| Topic Started: Jan 19 2009, 06:30 PM (8,030 Views) | |
| ~R~ | Jan 19 2009, 06:30 PM Post #1 |
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Sweetness cubed
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You know what we do here. I have an interview for the Theatre job in one hour.
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| Regullus | Jan 19 2009, 06:36 PM Post #2 |
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You'll do fine, ~R~. |
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| ~R~ | Jan 19 2009, 09:06 PM Post #3 |
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The interview went well, but it went quick. Never sure what the means. I like my chances, and he said he hopes to make a decision by the end of the week, so I'm not in the usual limbo where I never know. |
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| Inky | Jan 19 2009, 10:28 PM Post #4 |
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Quick decisions are good. Quick interviews, eh. Most likely he just wanted to get them all done quickly. |
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| ~R~ | Jan 20 2009, 12:03 AM Post #5 |
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Yeah, he did say he got a lot of reponses. The policy is to try to hire volunteers if possible. I should mention that he and I had met and chatted a couple times since I've been volunteering. |
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| lara | Jan 20 2009, 04:05 AM Post #6 |
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Good luck! |
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| ~R~ | Feb 4 2009, 04:26 PM Post #7 |
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Fuck. I didn't get the job. Aside from being dissappointing, and frankly more than a little surprising, it's kind of scary. This was the best shot I had in over a year of unemployment. It's only going to get harder. |
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| Eral | Feb 5 2009, 03:08 AM Post #8 |
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I'm so sorry. It's a real kick in the guts when it's a place where you already do the work, and like the people. As for it getting harder, that's how it feels but it might not be the reality. (An extremely clever friend of mine discussed that concept with me not long ago, in relation to some issues of mine, and it has been really helpful in fighting off feelings of depression.) Concentrate on thinking about the range of jobs do you have the skills for, and the ones that suit your personality. Something will come up. (That's horribly trite, I know, but it's true. And helpful in combatting those feelings of how hard it is.) I read once that when you don't get a job you should ask why not. It was suggested that you couch it in terms of "what was missing from my application/interview?" and "what are the qualities of the successful candidate that clinched the choice?" so that the employer doesn't think you are going to sue. I haven't found it always terribly insightful - a lot of people are really uncomfortable giving reasons for something that was often a matter of "oh, we just liked him/her better", and they hedge around. But it can help if they point out something you can improve in your presentation for the next one. Sometimes it's depressing: it can be like getting handed a list of your inadequacies; but it can also help keep your spirits up because it reveals some flaw in the ex-prospective employer that makes you glad you didn't get the job. "Oh ho! you are really a sexist/nepotist/cronyist!" and my personal favourite "So, you employed someone who won't be able to do the job as well as me, and you are an idiot. Right, thanks." I only ask when I am feeling self-confident enough to handle the criticism, and know that I will use it positively. If I think it's just going to increase my feelings of despair, I don't. Try to keep your spirits up: it's depressing and stressful being unemployed for a long time. I used to have dreams that I was living on the street outside of my house with all my possessions in large brown paper bags. (Interesting how I was environmentally friendly in the midst of an anxiety dream.) |
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| Regullus | Feb 5 2009, 01:31 PM Post #9 |
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That's too bad. Did the person who got the job have seniority? It may be as simple as that. |
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| ~R~ | Feb 5 2009, 05:33 PM Post #10 |
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Sweetness cubed
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Exec Director hasn't announced who did get the job yet. |
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| Eral | Feb 6 2009, 03:38 AM Post #11 |
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Kopi Luwak
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Can you have seniority among volunteers?
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| Regullus | Feb 6 2009, 05:16 AM Post #12 |
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I don't see why not? |
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| lara | Feb 6 2009, 05:17 AM Post #13 |
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Or, and I'm sorry if this is depressing, they got one of those "Wow, why is this person applying for this job?" applicants because of the tanked economy. |
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| Eral | Feb 6 2009, 06:07 AM Post #14 |
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Usually, they don't employ those people, do they? Mr.FPS' bosses have just announced they are dispensing with the services of non-essential staff; like the cleaners, and the people who do maintenance on the pre-press machines, and the contract workers who were hired because the job load was becoming so heavy on a regular basis the regular staff were not able to cope. So, this means, the regular staff are now going to have to cope with the work load and do extra. (Note: the wife of the boss who is still receiving her full-time wage despite having been at home on maternity leave for the last two years hasn't been sacked. ) This is a company where nobody gets paid over-time: they get bonuses according to the monthly profits. The monthly profits available as bonuses are reduced when specified levels of wasted paper due to errors are exceeded. Moral: everybody be really careful not to make mistakes. Most people work rotating twelve hour shifts, and the presses run 24/7. A staff member from pre-press is on call every weekend to attend to problems that arise. The people in Mr.FPS' office (the pre-press team) are absolutely great. They get shitty with one another every now and again, and bitch about different individuals occasionally, but they work really hard to keep the show running and it is very rare for anyone to leave a mess for the person following them on shift to clean up. Increasing their work load is going to mean more mistakes will be made. Tired individuals are cranky individuals, and it will have a negative effect on their effectiveness as a team. I think the bosses don't care because In These Difficult Times, people won't be chucking in their jobs in a hurry. I have advised Mr.FPS to talk to the other blokes, and make sure that don't try to manage the unmanageable. They need to remember they are valuable employees and really good at their jobs, and the company needs to respect them. Also, this is specialised work, and they won't find skilled pre-press people hanging out on the corner waiting for a job. Even though Times Are Difficult, they still have some bargaining power, and they should be prepared to use it. I hate the bosses, though. Thanks for the card at Christmas saying how you wouldn't be sitting on your arse in your big office reading the paper and driving home in your Jag if it wasn't for Mr.FPS running around like a headless chook keeping all the balls in the air. This is why I am a commie. |
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| ~R~ | Feb 6 2009, 06:21 AM Post #15 |
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I don't think I'm overqualified, if that's what we're talking about. Still no word on who he did hire, but I'll ask around tomorrow when I'm at the theatre. |
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| lara | Feb 7 2009, 12:47 AM Post #16 |
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I meant maybe they hired someone from outside who's overqualified, basically because "In times like these..." Eral, Gordon does pre-press work as well. He's a photographer. He does other stuff, too. Like lots of Photoshop. |
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| ~R~ | Feb 7 2009, 06:48 AM Post #17 |
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No, standard policy is to hire from the volunteer pool. The Exec Director started as a volunteer. And the Board of Directors, to whom he reports, are also volunteers. Still no word on who did get the job. Perhaps Volunteer Coordinator will know. I see her tomorrow. |
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| ~R~ | Feb 8 2009, 06:11 AM Post #18 |
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As it turns out, the volunteer who got the job was volunteering tonight. I've met her once or twice, but don't know her at all. Anyway, I discreetly asked Volunteer Coordinator if she knew why I didn't get the job. She had no information for me, because it turns out that even though he interviewed many volunteers (and only volunteers) for the job, Exec Director didn't consult her at all. In fact, he didn't even tell her about the opening. She found out because I cc'ed her on my response to the announcement. And now it turns out she has to train New Manager. She didn't come out and say anything against the New Manager, but there was a certain in her voice while discussing the situation.I'll have to ask Exec Director if I want to know why, but I have to discuss my idea for a Concert Film Festival, and I don't want to cloud that issue. |
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| Eral | Feb 9 2009, 12:12 AM Post #19 |
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Kopi Luwak
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Does the woman who got the job have nice breasts?
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| ~R~ | Feb 9 2009, 12:19 AM Post #20 |
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No. She was for sure not hired for her looks. I'd guess she's at least mid-forties, short, stocky, "plain" at best, and not very pleasant. |
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| Nibsi | Feb 9 2009, 01:26 AM Post #21 |
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I'd just like to point out those are all very subjective qualities :P |
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| Eral | Feb 10 2009, 04:21 AM Post #22 |
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Kopi Luwak
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But the subject is one that gives rise to bitterness in the best of us.
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| ~R~ | Feb 10 2009, 06:22 AM Post #23 |
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I'm not saying she's a dog; I'm just saying she was not hired for her looks. |
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| Nibsi | Feb 10 2009, 01:50 PM Post #24 |
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And I'm just pointing out that's a subjective observation. You mean she's not likely to have been hired for her appearance ![]() I'm sorry... language is just very important to me. Edited by Nibsi, Feb 10 2009, 01:52 PM.
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| Inky | Feb 10 2009, 03:14 PM Post #25 |
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It's possible she has huge gazongas! Or, y'know, is a good pick for the job. |
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