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Topic Started: Apr 25 2017, 03:27 AM (3,001 Views)
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Yo
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Darren Sanders

So it's spin and zach imo
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Darren Sanders

Maddie... Did you really give tib the only black guy? Lmao
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Why is that funny? There's another black character still in the game. lol
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ALSO ALL THE ROLES WERE RANDOMIZED!
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Darren Sanders
May 7 2017, 08:52 PM
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May 7 2017, 05:33 AM
That said Darren, while I can appreciate your style, I do have some questions:

1. Do you honestly believe that Roleblocker is not a good role? I think it's the third or fourth most powerful conventional town role (after Town Cop and Town Vig and Town Busser if it's in the game, tied with Town doc). I could not BELIEVE when you thought it wasn't important.

2. While I do think your constant outing of Town Roles can be beneficial over the long run. Is this a strategy you'd apply if town was down in numbers? Mass claims help town if town has dominance, but it's gonna fuck town over most of the time if the mafia and third party factions haven't had any poor luck.
In this game we had an outed

1)doc
2)nurse
3)Mason
4)Mason Journalist with investigative powers
5)Vig (assuming zach doesnt flip scum)
6)mayor
7)inventor

and thats just counting the roles that hadnt died in the first few days like tracker etc etc

Yeah, I think at best I had like the 5th or 6th most important role in the game at that time and was happy to draw a kill if possible. Thats why I didnt tell anyone that I had gotten a kill save from zersch hoping that since the doc had confirmed a save on me that they would try again the next night


To your second question:
I firmly believe that information does nothing but help town. Town is the uninformed majority vs the informed minority. Its in towns best interest to know what is going on so they can figure shit out. The only roles that I deem sacred are cop, doc, and pgo. Those shouldnt be outed imo.
The thing about roleblocker is that it gets stronger the longer that game progresses. In the early game, it's nowhere near as powerful as the town power roles, because you're essentially shooting blind.

In the late game though, the roleblocker can singlehandedly win town games by blocking the right people who are going out for a kill. It's far easier to tell who mafia is in the late game than who they are going to kill, because they try to play around a doc and pick who they think won't be protected - so I'd rather have a roleblocker than a doc in the end of a game.
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ChrisFuckingWallace

Darren Sanders
May 8 2017, 02:18 AM
So it's spin and zach imo
How do you still suspect Zach? Do you think there just wasn't a town vig at all in the game?
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Darren Sanders

As a mod, especially in big games like this, I tend to treat a roleblocker as a foiler whose main purpose balance wise is to balance out the town power roles by negating them and then like you said becoming very useful for town as the game progresses
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Darren Sanders

ChrisFuckingWallace
May 8 2017, 03:19 AM
Darren Sanders
May 8 2017, 02:18 AM
So it's spin and zach imo
How do you still suspect Zach? Do you think there just wasn't a town vig at all in the game?
If you kill someone every night and never hit scum you have to be questioned
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ChrisFuckingWallace

Darren Sanders
May 8 2017, 03:21 AM
ChrisFuckingWallace
May 8 2017, 03:19 AM
Darren Sanders
May 8 2017, 02:18 AM
So it's spin and zach imo
How do you still suspect Zach? Do you think there just wasn't a town vig at all in the game?
If you kill someone every night and never hit scum you have to be questioned
Well first off, he tried to hit Timmah twice but was blocked (by you) and redirected after.

But also, if there hasn't been a vig flip, 2 SKs have flipped, and someone's claimed vig on a previous day but hasn't been attacked, It's a safe bet they are vig. Otherwise the actual vig would have taken them out.
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