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Topic Started: 24 Oct 2012, 10:29 PM (622 Views)
Reno
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Here is the latest part of the PM battle, LOL:

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Congratulations, you described magic in Sean's universe.


No I didn't.

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And again, you didn't do your homework.


What homework? I don't need to study anything. You're the one who needs to learn how to read LOL.

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Allow me to call forth a quote from my profile: "**The word "magic" simply refers to anything that strays from the mundane and isn't psionic.


That's fine and dandy. Wrong, but you don't care about little details like that anyway.

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It's source can be called AEther, Mana, Limit, Madera, whatever, it's still technically magic."


Unfortunately, that's not how it works where my character is concerned. In Crim's setting (along with most other settings, as I said earlier), Ether is simply a blanket term that is used to describe all forms of "mystical phenomena", which also includes psionics, and even technomancy. In essence, it describes any form of matter/energy manipulation. "Magic" (or "Mana", sometimes) is considered a sub-type, as is Chi, and so-on. These forces are similar, yes, but they are ultimately derived from different sources. Incidentally, the abilities that your Sean utilizes would also be considered a form of Ether.

Granted, his abilities make no sense, but I'll get into that in a minute.

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Mundane means anything that we on THIS world have, since we tend to use this world as a reference for most others.


This doesn't have anything to do with anything and it's pointless for you to even bring it up.

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And I fail to see how your Ether fits into all other universes, it already seems to clash with mine.


So wait, first you say that my explanation of Ether "describes magic in Sean's universe", but now all of a sudden it is clashing with it? Why I am even talking to someone who can't even keep their own "facts" straight from one paragraph to the next?

And it fits into all other universes, because it is simply a broad term. A word that is used to describe literally anything that applies. It's all about versatility, you see.

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But you also fail to see why it wouldn't work on Sean.


Nope.

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He doesn't exist on any level except the material, meaning this Ether, no matter how woven into your universe it is, would fail to realize Sean was even there, and therefore see nothing amiss as his threads did their thing.


Incorrect. Mainly because your reasoning is supremely flawed. I mean, if it doesn't even exist, that's that. Concept kills itself. So obviously, in order to have any sort of effect on the world around it, the threads need to exist. Just because it's not a typical Ether form, doesn't mean that it somehow can bypass any type of Ether without any explanation or effort. That is actually god modding, and is generally poor form, if not completely against the rules.

Anyway, you don't get to decide what another character's abilities are effective against anyway. I routinely use Ether to combat purely physical or "material" forces. Pretty much everyone does. My character is fully capable of generating barriers and other forces that can block physical materials. In fact, it is written directly into the description of his Ether Field that is able to block physical strikes.

By your own admission, the threads are physical. It makes no difference whether it's physical or Ether-based. The Ether Field would have an effect on it. Furthermore, Crim also possesses advanced spatial awareness, which is a naturally-occurring sense on his part. Even if the Ether Field was somehow ineffective against the threads (PROTIP: it's not ineffective), Crim's Spatial Awareness would have, at minimum, alerted him to the physical/material presence, regardless.

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If you were to say otherwise, your Ether shield would suffocate you due to not allowing anything in, not even oxygen, because as I said, Sean is basically the most natural and neutral thing in any universe, and his incapability to bypass your shield is like you saying air can't get through, or the ground couldn't get through so you could even walk, hell, you wouldn't even be able to wear clothes.


It's a passive ability that is always active, but it is not going full-strength at all times (see, that requires effort, which is something you clearly aren't familiar with). Once again, it is stated in Crim's profile that the Ether Field actually does, in fact, aid in the displacement of particles while traveling at high speeds. You barely bothered to describe your threads. You didn't put much effort into your "attack", so there was little need for me to put much effort into my defense.

In any case, your logic is completely flawed, which pretty much voids every aggressive action your character took anyway. I could have justifiably taken his head right off in that moment, actually.

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So, care to explain that? If not, checkmate. You failed to bring into account the fact that words can be used for BASE EXAMPLES AND NOT TOTAL SET-IN-STONE TESTAMENTS.


See above. The only fail here is you and your nonsensical character. His abilities make zero sense. You can't even explain them. Literally. Nobody could explain those abilities in a way that makes logical sense.

"He exists in a perfect state of neutrality (okay that doesn't mean shit really) but does not actually exist (what?) but he can still have an effect on the physical and Ethereal even though he doesn't exist (so he's corporeal and non-corporeal simultaneously, mutually-exclusive much?) Oh, but his abilities are purely material which means that Ether (or "magic", hurr-hurr-hurr) can't have any effect on him, but he can totally perform acts that are pretty much exactly the same as magic because HE ISN'T MAGIC OR ANYTHING NO HE IS ANTI-MAGIC MAN.

That's pretty much like saying a negative number isn't still a number.

Let me tell you something. Sean's abilities are a form of Ether. Crim can draw different types of Ether and use it in practically any way he likes. He is built that way, genetically. In a sense, his abilities come from a physical source (his DNA). So even if Sean's abilities made any sort of sense (just to reiterate, they don't), the "material" aspect of Crim's powers would ultimately render him immune to Sean's nonsense anyway.

Hell, even without all that crap, Crim has a skill (his "Tenken") which is just an innate manipulation of purely physical forces. That alone would be enough to render Sean's defenses useless. With that ability, Crim could pick up a random chunk of wood and use it to cut Sean to pieces. Then again, Crim is physically strong enough to turn him into paste with his bare hands anyway. I mean you go around posting this shit all willy-nilly without even taking the capabilities of your opponents under the slightest bit of consideration. And to top it all off, you are flat-out wrong in your way of thinking to begin with. Sad.

And not only that, Crim draws power from extra-dimensional sources. Some of those sources are more scientific than mystical. For example, at any given time, a percentage of his energy is being drawn from dimensions that are in the process of a Big Bang. Ether itself is, very basically, just energy, after all. And as I am sure you know, energy is simply an altered state of matter. And matter exists, materially. Sean's abilities exist, materially, as you yourself say. Therefore, I have no choice to conclude that you have no fucking idea what you are doing. I know more about your own character's abilities than you do.

So I might as well just take him off your hands, eh? I am certain I could use him far more responsibly than you anyway.

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Now bow down and bark like the dog you are.


I don't know why you thought you could argue such an obviously invalid point against someone who is so obviously beyond your reckoning in every conceivable way, but far be it from me to tell peons how to mull about aimlessly throughout the pointless day-to-day tomfuckery of their lives.
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Lmao. Pure ownage...

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. Therefore, I have no choice to conclude that you have no fucking idea what you are doing. I know more about your own character's abilities than you do.
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I have no idea what you fucks are talking about, and I can still pick up douchebaggery in all of that. Even parsing out Reno's typical embellishments, the facts seem to boil down to this fuckface declaring "nobody else's abilities work on me because I f*ckm*thering say so" and assigning himself no corresponding hindrances or handicaps to make things interesting.

In other words: typical Grand Tournament shitfuckery, descended directly from typical Olde Guard RR shitfuckery, and why are you doing this again, exactly?
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For the lulz.
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I actually do enjoy these OOC arguments though. It's fun to force idiots to suddenly become hyper-aware of their own idiocy.

Anyway Laser, are you back again all of a sudden!?
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Christmas is a thing, fucker. As are college finals. I had shit to do for the last month or so. I'm here, aren't I?
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[utube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZcA44Q7pxk[/utube]

"I didn't even know it was Christmas."
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I'd never want to fight against Crim.

He seems pretty powerful.
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Well yeah. But that's also the benefit of experience. Building a character up over a long time tends to result in a character that is powerful. But it's not just "power" that makes these characters strong. It's the actual IC experience that they have to draw upon as well. I've been using Crim for a long time. Almost my entire RP career. Crim is in my head. Like a natural aspect of my own personality. This makes writing IC posts a nearly effortless affair.
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You should kill her character.
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Her?

What.

LOL.

Well that would explain a lot.

Well, "she" is trying to get a judge to come in and call it now, LOL.

Fucking bar thread judgement after two posts that is a god damn fucking piece of work right there if I do say so myself.

Last ditch effort of someone who has been utterly crushed. I pretty much dismantled her entire concept and pointed out the numerous mistakes that she made in her IC posts. I am pretty sure she is delusional at this point.
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I said this to laser earlier and I'll say it again. I should have Ishida drop a little glob of his Gravija on her character and watch her be crushed into a pool of fail. Then laugh in her face as she tries to blindly claim that she is immune to ether even if said ether has a profound physical effect on the ...physical? LOL.

Srslywtf. She's dumb. Hang her by her intestines.
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Once you two are finished of course. Just to start the whole riot up again and piss her off, maybe make her ragequit the internets.
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Yeah her whole thing is just a way for her to bypass everything while simultaneously utilizing her own abilities with no drawbacks. Basically just an IC double-standard god power.

But it's utter nonsense anyway. It hinges entirely on "facts" that she pulled out of nowhere but her stupid ass.

She says that the powers are based in "reality", somehow, and thus, they can bypass anything that isn't also "material". But then she says that he character can somehow "smell the magic". So magic has a smell? That means one of two things, if we hold her ideas to be "fact". One, it means that magic is actually a physical material, which means that her character actually would not be immune to it after all. Or two, that her character actually does possess magical abilities, since it wouldn't make any sense for her to be capable of "smelling" magic without having at least some magical ability to begin with, which would also render her entire concept invalid since it hinges entirely on the idea that she doesn't have any magical powers/presence or whatever.

Of course, that still doesn't explain how an Ether explosion can blow up a building. If Ether, or "magic" as she insists it be called, cannot actually affect the physical world, then just what in the hell have all those wizards and Z-fighters been doing this whole time?

Conclusion: dumb fucking cunt.

LOL.
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I'll get Citizen Snips to fight her.
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Aha!

Citizen Snips is in the box!
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Perfect hahaha.
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What a failure of an RPer.

A but like the guy who one-hit-killed my character in the third post of a tourney I was in. That was hilarious. Not to mention completely retarded on his part.
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Unfortunately, it seems most players these days are like that.

Then again, I've seen this kind of behavior all throughout the years. Although I must admit it has been quite a while since I have encountered one as bad as this, LOL.

I wonder if he/she/whatever will post there again after all this?

Also, that furry faggot seems like he wants to start something too. I hope he is a friend of Thunderpunk's. That would be great. Or maybe he's trying to be one of those ridiculous internet white knights. That would be pretty great too.
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I wouldn't really have a problem with furries (aside from their dumb furfag ways) if they weren't always so uptight about everything.

Actually I am pretty sure they all have Asperger's.
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