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| GRAND TOURNAMENT 2012; Held through 2013? | |
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| Geraven | 21 Mar 2013, 10:24 PM Post #341 |
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Yo Momma!
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Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked...Until we close our eyes for good. | |
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| Reno | 22 Mar 2013, 04:05 PM Post #342 |
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Above the Law
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Oh look me and Kai won ours already again. |
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| Vanza | 22 Mar 2013, 06:31 PM Post #343 |
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Lol. Yeah..he tried. And died |
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| Rin | 22 Mar 2013, 07:20 PM Post #344 |
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Darn Young Whippersnapper
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Really, as soon as you two joined, they should have just skipped to the RENO VS KAI SUPAH MEGA FINAL. |
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| Lobos | 22 Mar 2013, 07:34 PM Post #345 |
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Passerby
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I do wish I'd brought either Carnage or Scrade to this one. Would've been a lot more level. Can't complain though. Got to have a rather epic battle with Kilio, in any case. Still wish they'd put me with Thunder in the first round though. Would've hammered his ass into the ground. |
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| Reno | 22 Mar 2013, 08:01 PM Post #346 |
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Above the Law
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I am interested in seeing these characters you speak of. Might be of use if/when we bring the main continuity back to the forefront. Also I'm betting it would be some good reading. Anyway, Thunder wouldn't have even been on my radar if he/she hadn't goofed up the fucking casual bar thread for no reason LOL. Seriously, Thunder wanted to call in a judge for it and everything. |
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| Reno | 22 Mar 2013, 08:07 PM Post #347 |
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Above the Law
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But yeah sometimes the sheer difference between character power is enough to turn the tides. Though ultimately it's still up to the player to utilize said power effectively. A skilled player with an underpowered character can wreck an unskilled player with an overpowered character. But when you run into the scenario of two skilled players, character strength definitely factors in heavily. Even a slight difference can make or break. Goes without saying, I guess. |
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| Reno | 22 Mar 2013, 08:09 PM Post #348 |
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Thundergod is a prime example of an unskilled player attempting to use a skilled and powerful character. Basically, the character is more than he could handle effectively. |
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| Vanza | 23 Mar 2013, 05:15 AM Post #349 |
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I'm also interested in seeing either one of them. This tourney is the first one I've participated in for a real long time. I would have been better off using Einst or even Edward in all honesty. Ishida is primarily my "brute force" type, but he's got a few mean and nasty tricks up his fur. Like the Grand Slamwich technique. That's a good one. /justmadethatup |
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| Reno | 24 Mar 2013, 08:45 AM Post #350 |
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Above the Law
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Apparently Kedamono is planning to use his real ultimate secret technique which isn't listed in his profile or something. Which means he is going to pull a desperation move out of his ass in a vain attempt to keep his head above water. I had higher hopes for this kid. Oh well. |
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| Vanza | 24 Mar 2013, 08:58 AM Post #351 |
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LOL...not again... When will these amateurs learn... For one, there's nothing that he can do to win. The gravity effect I put in place is still there...nothing he can do to stop it. I suppose he won't learn unless I Rail gun his face. This is a disappointment on so many levels. Purely for the sake of humiliating him, I'm going to bitch slap his head off and completely mutilate his character. |
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| Reno | 24 Mar 2013, 09:32 AM Post #352 |
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Above the Law
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Sometimes that's the only way for a player to advance skill-wise. The main issue here is the fact that he's supposedly going to be utilizing something that isn't even listed in his profile. If it's not listed, you can't use it. That's practically rule #1 in tournaments like this. You can somewhat loophole this by listing your skills and abilities in a more broad manner. As long as a particular skill or ability fits within the scope of whatever you have listed, it's fine. |
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| Vanza | 24 Mar 2013, 09:42 AM Post #353 |
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Right, which is exactly what I do. I've been considering the addition of a brief summary of Ishida's more elaborate skills and abilities that aren't easily identified in his profile. But in all honesty, I don't care too much. The scope of what I've used in this tournament so far is extremely minimal within his overall ability. As far as Keda pulling a desperation move with something not at all in his profile, if it's absolute BS in the same way Camolot did his move, I'll call him out on it. If I can remotely link it to what I see in his profile, then I will. I'm not even sure if his last move was covered by his profile. I think it was, but it was too easy to squash in the first place. What I do know that there's definitely no mention of, is that his character has no significant abilities that can keep him from being crushed with the gravity being jacked up 150-times normal. If he thinks I'll let that one easily slide, he's got another thing coming. Ishida's abilities aren't limited to one type of effect in the first place. If he pisses me off enough, I'll just rip his body apart like I said. Chances are though, whatever he's cooking up--likely with whatever help he's seeking from his friends, isn't going to be valid or even worth sneezing at. |
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| Vanza | 24 Mar 2013, 09:44 AM Post #354 |
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The way I see it, he's collaborating with whatever goons out there that want to see me fall by some two-bit punk. Same as the people helping Mustachio or whoever Alulu is fighting. Some ultimate mega move they think my character can't contend with. LOL. Pathetic. =/ |
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| Reno | 24 Mar 2013, 10:47 AM Post #355 |
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He's got some people that's he's possibly colluding with, yeah. But they don't have the ability to really help him anyway. Mostly a bunch of chat-based fighters. Not that all chat-based fighters are bad, but the majority are inferior all the same. Those who are able to make the transition from chat-fighting to forum-based fighting are effective players. I don't think that Kedamono has what it takes. Maybe in a few years, but not now. Some of them are upset because they don't think it's fair to use powerful characters. Similar to the mindset that a lot of people over at RPGchat used to have. They believe that it's more difficult/challenging to use low-mid tier characters. It's not, of course. Advanced players need to use advanced characters in order to draw out their full potential. Battles between advanced characters being played by skilled player have far more inherent variables, and thus, are that much more challenging on the whole. Playing at mid-level can be fun for the sake of narrative flow and such, but when it comes to a full-out battle, you need to be able to pull out all the stops. It's disrespectful not to, really. To your opponent and to yourself. It's like forcing a Nascar champion to drive around in a go-cart or something. They'll still beat the average driver, but they'll be bored as fuck without that extra horsepower to really strut their stuff. |
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| Reno | 24 Mar 2013, 10:51 AM Post #356 |
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I don't think his character has the ability to move at or near the speed of light as it is. Pretty sure his character's "speed" is an illusion. It's actually based around his "bullet time" skill, which somehow slows down the movement speed of objects/people relative to their proximity to him. I believe that the original intent of that ability was to prevent gun-toting characters from easily picking him off from a distance. But I only glanced over his profile briefly a while back, so maybe I've forgetting something. Regardless of anything else though, the sheer difference in skill-level between the two of you is enough to decide this match anyway. |
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| Vanza | 24 Mar 2013, 11:22 AM Post #357 |
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Yup. As you well know I agree entirely. It is not in any way more challenging to use a lower-to-mid range fighter. I've done it all, same as you and several others around here. It's harder to use a more powerful fighter to their full potential, and to do so correctly or within the scope of their actual abilities than anything. I mean really, any jackass can make an anime-based samurai character and play it. Or the million Naruto rips I have seen across the years. Even then, taking stuff from anime's/games is fine if you do it "right". I have no idea where this guy pulled his character from, supposedly it's an anime...but I don't really care either. His bullet time skill is a release of energy that works akin to Radar. Against any seasoned character, it's useless. He of course offered no description of it's workings, and I only found out after the match began...but any "radar" type skill is way too easily countered. Especially if you know exactly how radar works, like say, if you worked on it for a few years with the military...LOL. Whatever though. He showed some mild promise at the beginning, but in all honesty my "fly-by" attack should have struck in full and ripped his arm off. There's far too little time, and I made it abundantly clear that Ishida waited until Claine was about to strike before even bothering to move...that the bullet time skill, and his little lightning-enhanced reactions wouldn't have registered shit except he was missing an arm. I let it slide, then he pulled some Speed of Light non-sense. LOL. And I guess there's more. I'm just getting all sort's of goodies for being too lenient on my opponents, aren't I? Thank god Lobos at least had a working brain and I enjoyed one match, so far.... Kudos to you again bro. This is the asinine crap we always end up dealing with. =/ |
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| Reno | 24 Mar 2013, 11:51 AM Post #358 |
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People take the speed of light for granted. Energy requirements alone make it impossible for most characters. There are potential shortcuts, but still. Things like that need to be adequately and at least somewhat sensibly explained. Otherwise you are better off just staying away entirely. Light moves at the speed of light without massive energy expenditure because light particles have no mass. Accelerating an object with mass - even a single tiny grain of sand - will require vast amounts of energy. For a mid-level character to be capable of such a feat...well, actually, the character is no longer mid-level at that point. Light speed movement is a high-level skill no matter how you slice it. |
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| Reno | 24 Mar 2013, 11:55 AM Post #359 |
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But really, just because you can move at the speed of light, doesn't mean that you should. There are just way too many potential issues, especially when you consider things like time dilation and so-on. At the most, it should only be used sparingly. |
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| Vanza | 24 Mar 2013, 03:58 PM Post #360 |
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Well, Keda just forfeited. And he sent me a PM. He read this convo, which nothing is secret on the internet...never has been lol. Anywho, he told me that the whole outside help thing, and the rest of the stuff we went off on a tangent about was false. I'm glad. I don't like group efforts on 1vs1 deals. If I'm gonna be fighting 3 or 4 people I wanna know about it. But, he's no camolot so it's all good to me. LOL |
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