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GRAND TOURNAMENT 2012; Held through 2013?
Topic Started: 7 Jan 2013, 05:02 PM (4,121 Views)
Reno
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Isn't the point of this to pit a Ygg character against a Val'gara character though?

I mean really, that is pretty much what kicked off this entire discussion isn't it?
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What did I do? CNN is full of lies. I didn't physically assault anybody. I was testing my super-compression cheez-whiz cannon on willing volunteers
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Why teh fuck did you put it here and not on the Head Board? We have a subforum for characters. Duh.

Because I fucking can, I'm a semi-narcissistic show off, and I think the only reason you got pissed off is due to the fact that is says "nigger lover", causing your black guy avatar to temporarily scowl at me instead of going "this mothah--" and being rudely and abruptly cut off.

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Isn't the point of this to pit a Ygg character against a Val'gara character though?

I mean really, that is pretty much what kicked off this entire discussion isn't it?


True, however, I am not in the proper mental state to use Thane, he is semi-occupied with being in Hell, I've been looking for an opportunity to test out Marco Polo's abilities, and at the end of the day, we're talking about raw skill.

I understand your point, though.
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Reno
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Why aren't you using a Val'gara though.

I don't understand why you wouldn't, considering the circumstances that led up to this.

Wat.
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It seems we posted at the same time, therefore see above. Also get on AIM, there's something I want to discuss with you, if you have the time.
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Geraven
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To be honest, you're profile was tl;dr. I didn't give two shits, other than...why the fuck you didn't put it in Head Board? I mean, that's why we have the place set up there. I think you need to come down to the station so you can have a talk with me...we tell you how we do things in this part of the woods.

And when I mean talk, I mean I'm gonna anally rape you with Laser's giant spiked dildo he uses on Reno and Kai simultaneously.

Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked...Until we close our eyes for good.
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Dicks.
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rin i will massacre you like an 18th century british explorer
you goddamn clitoris allsort
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Vanza
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I was going to post something, but I forgot.

Rin, make me popcorn. It's anime time. =/
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And Jorsh has proved that he is still a failure. Lousy two-dollar whore, you're no god damned french maid. >:/
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And when I mean talk, I mean I'm gonna anally rape you with Laser's giant spiked dildo he uses on Reno and Kai simultaneously.


I specialize in rape prevention, also known as counter-rape.

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Rin, make me popcorn. It's anime time. =/


What anime ya watchin', boah?
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Geraven
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My anus is rape proof. So is my face and intestines.

You can thank Laser for that.

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Yurei
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Legdoor, Legdoor...

Nope.

Challenged party gets choice of venue. The last Grand Tournament chucklehead I challenged because he thought he was so much better than everyone else demanded the same right, and I acquiesced and went to his board. The venue and its weird rules were later specifically used to fuck with me.

This time? We fight right here. I know the Yggdrasil Crewmen will respect a duel and not try to interfere; I don't know the same of Legdoor's crowd. Heh, besides...this way you can keep it private and save some face when I prove that Cee and I are more than you can handle. Let's face it - you're pulling an intangible reality warper against me rather than fight me head-on, like you at least had the decency to try and do the last couple times this happened.

That's okay, though. Wouldn't be the first time Crewmen have come across raging douchenozzles of that variety. We'll see how long yer guy there's convinced of his own invulnerability, eh?

Jorsham: I can handle my own smack-talk, man. This is largely between me and Racially Insensitive up there, what with him being convinced I'm a blathering idiot and me being convinced he's an overblown asshole. That said, I haven't forgotten you, man - I actually had an opponent lined up for that match ye wanted before Monster Mash decided to start causing problems. Finish up your intro thread with 3.0 Crim, let me deal with this, and we'll see about that fight, eh?
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Before we begin I have a mandatory posting obligation for the tournament, so I don't know who will start this, or if you have a particular setting in mind for our engagement. It doesn't matter to me, if you want to wait for me to get my business out of the way, that's fine, if you want to go first, that's fine too. I just want to know.

Also, if anyone interferes, I'll just kick their ass alongside yours, it's not that big a deal to me, and brawls are fun, anyway.


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Now then, as for the way you're perceiving my character.----V
I'm only explaining myself, because I have a massive dislike for false assumptions.

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This time? We fight right here. I know the Yggdrasil Crewmen will respect a duel and not try to interfere; I don't know the same of Legdoor's crowd. Heh, besides...this way you can keep it private and save some face when I prove that Cee and I are more than you can handle. Let's face it - you're pulling an intangible reality warper against me rather than fight me head-on, like you at least had the decency to try and do the last couple times this happened.


Marco's ability's don't warp reality, they either wreak havoc and enforce chaos, or they polarize the effects of what's already going on. You're a fool for thinking I'd try to do something that involves screwing with laws none of us know enough about, and even if I was, your character can apparently start copying other types of supernatural abilities. As far as I'm concerned we're evenly matched. But that likely won't be enough for you, so I'm going to explain and mend all your bullshit generalizations yet again.

He's not intangible, that's why it says semi-corporeal and not full on incorporeal: it's used more as a means for allowing him to walk through walls and such, I'm not so cheap that I'd say a powerful attack simply phased through him. You're assuming things about people's characters again, cut it out.

If there's really a problem, I'll remove it for this fight.

Secondly, he's not a reality warper, the majority of his abilities that reolve around reality have more to do with creating polarized results: the Queen in his Rage form destroys technology or forces it to go out of control, the Jack casts Illusions, or prevents them from taking hold, meaning not even Marco would be in a position to start flooding everything with a bunch of mind-boggling bullshit, the Fires of life from the King either force it to decompose into a life-sapper, or forces it to grow which does nothing but just make it harder to move, or make the environment heavily entangled within itself.

Even his deck of cards doesn't fuck with reality, in fact, as shown by the clubs creating dissonance, the type of thing that would make it difficult for some screwball to start re-writing the laws of reality, or it would produce chaos, and chaos is not something that can be controlled.

Racially Insensitive would be an understandable presumption, but that's all it is: a presumption and an inaccurate one at that, which I technically can't blame you for. The reason he -- along with his four cohorts -- carry the title "Nigger Lover" is because I'm using the archaic definition, long before it became a racial slur against people of African descent. The archaic definition of 'Nigger' is someone who is extremely ignorant (notice the "ig" "n-ig(norant)-ger) ignorant is an adjective of nigger.

Moving on The Nigger Lovers are people who were once normal, but chose to hide negative feelings and emotions they had within themselves, nearly to the point of where they became IGNORANT about them. Eventually they fell into an alternate dimension known as the Darkness, a melting pot for their suppressed desires, which explains why they possess such jaded, bizarre, exaggerated personalities that embody certain negative attributes they've come to possess.

"Nigger Lover" is merely their reaction to ordinary people they see hiding things about themselves, even trivia,l mundane things--they are enticed by it, excited by it, and go berserk, which is more like a form of internalized rage being projected outwards, thus they give off the illusion of being "in love with a nigger" or an "ignorant person"

Calling them "Nigger Lovers" serves two purposes: #1 to catch the reader's attention, just like it caught yours just now, and #2 to compress their purpose into a two-word package that I will likely have to explain to anyone else who comes across these caricature-styled characters.

Remember, I said this was a type of black/dark/comedy, which is about a lot more than just having a good laugh, it's meant to teach, but not in the traditional sense. Hence, why Dante's Inferno is often referred to as "The Divine Comedy".

Here's the kicker: I'm part black, jackass, but I have the ability to see past my own racial stereotypes and still be creative.
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Laser: Ok...and? Who says I'm smack talking for you? Psh, please. I've missed this part of the Clan Wars. Random OOC bickering that nobody cares for. Well, except me. And I'm currently waitin on Reno to post for my intro thread. So I'm bored til then...

Alu: Just cause you're part black don't mean shit. I'm part black, and look at me! Whiter than a German hunting a Jew. So where you going with that? Oh right, racial stereotypes. And I'm still tryin to see the creativity...

Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked...Until we close our eyes for good.
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You could stage the fight over at RB too if you wanted.
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Alu: Just cause you're part black don't mean shit. I'm part black, and look at me! Whiter than a German hunting a Jew. So where you going with that? Oh right, racial stereotypes. And I'm still tryin to see the creativity...


I don't care if you do or do not see the creativity in it, nor do I expect you to, but as I said before I have a strong dislike for people who make assumptions about my characters. It's one thing to think something, it's another to go shooting off at the mouth and start making insults.

Secondly, me stating my own racial background was done to inform you, that anyone is able to look past their own racial boundaries, see beyond them, and if they're creative enough turn them into something for their own benefit. This is what I did, and I have no reservations with saying that I'm proud of this creation.
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Okay, little one. No need to keep repeating yourself. Still makes you look like a monkey with access to a computer.

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Oh yeah, and get a damn post up already, Reno.

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When I feel like it.
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Just going to point out right now: I will invoke Autochthon's authority if, as is inevitable given your...you-ness...you attempt to claim that this Rage Queen thing of yours just automatically explodes Cee because robot. The woman is an agent of the Lord of Machines, she is very literally operating under a divine mandate, and she is permitted to call upon her boss' mojo directly for two and only two reasons: incursions of Phthysis into the universe, which only occur within the scope of her own storyline or expressly agreed-upon plot threads, and as a response to people who think that 'android' means that basic EMP effects or random technology interdicts mean LAWLWIN. I will allow as that this interdict ability of yours would disrupt most of Cee's Godforged constructs, but you don't get to simply turn on one ability, say "Checkmate, motherfucker!" and assume that somehow proves anything.

Your shenanigans: I am not having them.

Now.

By all means, handle your GT junk. I recall mentioning that I completely expected you to cite the tournament as a reason you couldn't actually follow up on your own challenge. Go ahead, go GT for a bit. I don't actually want to fight you all that much anyways, I just want you to shut the hell up, and it seems that putting a fist where your talkhole used to be is the only realistic way of accomplishing that. If you'd rather call the whole thing off though, go ahead. Maybe by the time you're done, you'll be able to deal with the fact that some people just don't like emotionally-stunted murder generators and the groups they call home.

I get it, I do. You and Guts are fans of Berserk (pretty obvious in Guts' case anyways), Gantz, and things of that nature, where death, despair, and hopelessness are the norm and the best you can aspire to is for your agonizing death to be a little shorter than most folks'. Happiness is life's cruel joke and exists only in fleeting moments, and only to make the mind-crushing horror all the more tragic. That's a thing, and even a valid one. Making an entire group out of it, i.e. the Val'gara, concentrates it too much for my tastes, but even then it's a valid thing, if kinda hard to deal with for people who actually sorta like life. What gets me is that you seem to think that anything else is just the player involved being a big joker and not taking things SRSLY ENF. That anyone who doesn't make every single character they have into an individual incapable of spending his/her time doing anything but coming up with ever more inventively gruesome ways of torturing people to death - preferably innocent people, even better if they're fundamentally decent folk who don't deserve an ounce of the torment they're getting, and best of all if their loved ones are watching whilst awaiting their turn - are nancy-ass baby men who're just asking to get eaten by a flying stomach troll or something.

When you lay it on thick enough, Al, it stops being a thing and starts being a caricature of itself. When you keep laying it on thicker after that, and also somehow continue to play it completely straight, it stops even being a caricature and just turns into either senseless sadism or self-indulgent masochism - or both - depending on what's happening at the time. That's what the Valgs ended up as for me - a group that wallowed so incredibly melodramatically in their wretched misery and existential anguish that it stopped being something I could take seriously. You're plenty good enough at what you do - that being kill, pillage, rape, maim, burn, torment and ruin anything/everything in your path. Thing is...ye do that and nothing but that for long enough, and it stops being cool even if it was ever cool for ye to start with, and in my case it really wasn't.

Now. As for your claim that Cee's Eye of Justice and associated techniques somehow balance out the whole intangible-reality-warper thing...there are sane and sensible limitations on Cee's abilities, just like you claim there are to yours. Difference is, I've laid out those limitations for the Crew before, and will gladly do so again provided you A.) care, and B.) decide you actually want to keep this farce up. The system by which I govern what Cee can and can't steal, and how long it takes her to do so, took up an entire page's text last time, no need to do that again if you're not going to believe me anyways. What's even more awesome is that I'll actually adhere to them, because I know that power mimics are dicey things that need to be treated carefully and with respect - by their players even more than their enemies - if they want to remain a valid character. Given the fact that Thane could steal entire character sheets by ingesting so much as a few hair follicles, if I recall properly, I'm pretty sure I'm the more ethical mimic user here, pal.
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