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I DO NOT APPROVE!!!!
Topic Started: 9 Sep 2017, 08:08 PM (152 Views)
Geraven
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What the literal FUCK is going on with the forum? Why is the Reno-ness being removed from everything?

Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked...Until we close our eyes for good.
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... I thought you left?
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Are you seriously that fucking dense? When you get a brain and want to actually have a civilized discussion you can try again. Until then, I suggest you take a moment to reflect on the state of things over the past 2 years-ish.

We also don't need your fucking approval. In case you didn't realize, you lost any credibility you have with the Crew. Until we complete what we're trying to do, FFL and the Crew are synonymous.

Google it if you don't know what that means.

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Yurei
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To give you more explanation than your recent behavior likely merits...:

Kai approached me, back around the 23rd of August as all the recent threads state, with the notion of doing a Summer Cleaning on FFL, because we haven't updated the forum in literally ever. As explained in my 'Forum Rebuild In Progress' newsy post thing.

Part of the objective was to make the place at least slightly more palatable to visitors and new folks, in direct response to criticisms levied against us by...well, YOU, to start, and also folks whose opinions count for a little more than yours does these days. Kai put me in charge of general board maintenance since he's busy as balls all the time and I'm familiar with Invision's control panels anyways and could do it quickly and effectively. Thus some forum reorganization, ideally to be combined with other initiatives once we all have more time to try and get this place as reinvigorated as it ever gets. Because, as Kai noted, the place has been largely a ghost town with the exception of Black and me running the Cycle for the last however-long-it's-been-since-Vestusio.

You could've been part of that, but you decided to pitch a shitfit and Sever Ties. Spamming up the joint and being an argumentative asshat doesn't help your case. I'm not sure you quite realize just how badly you burned your cookies with your last performance here, Josh. You're not on thin ice - you're underwater already and still sinking.

Until we hear otherwise, Kai is acting as interim Captain around here because he has to. I am acting as interim XO because Kai can't be both at the same time. You are the guy who burned his bridges and left to go have fun on RPGuild at the expense of this place.

So...go. Have fun at RPGuild. Because you've got some explaining, and quite probably some apologizing, to do before anyone here will talk to you seriously again. This post here explaining things to you was a courtesy, because despite your factually erroneous assumptions extending courtesy to folks is something I do that the rest of the usual higher-up staff here isn't great at.

[strike]That said, you've not earned much more courtesy. Thread locked. I'm going to keep an eye on this place and Furnace any new spam you light off in here, Josh. If a post of yours doesn't contain a "Guys, can we talk?" and a desire to try and mend relationships which you - not me, not Kai, not Reno, but YOU - tore up? Then we don't want it, and you don't get to have it.[/strike]

EDIT: On second thought? Nah. I'll leave you this one, as your one place to get your wind out. G'head and rail against my injustice in here. Keep it all in one spot. And because you get to have this one spot, I'ma go ahead and just delete any other spam you throw around. Because perhaps that will show you just how deep the hole you managed to dig for yourself is, Josh.
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Geraven
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Good point. I don't matter. And also, I haven't been roleplaying anywhere, thanks, since you guys kicked me from the Crew. Kinda been dealing with the depression from losing my oldest and closest friends. Not talking about you, Laser. We've hardly been anything since you joined. Nor Elyk, since he's never liked me anyway. Oh wait, I guess I don't have any friends in the Crew, or had. I keep forgetting I was kept around to keep you guys from looking too weak, because you had a fall boy to blame if shit went south.

Now, my issue is that this forum IS Reno's legacy, so to speak. This forum was made to weed out the weak, so to speak. Those who can't take jokes or get butthurt about everything. Yeah, I suppose I can get pretty butthurt when I see people I considered friends talking shit behind my back, like you guys did before I said anything on RPG. But anyway, I have nothing to truly apologize for. Except for not seeing how unwanted I was by the majority of the group. For that, I am sorry. I should have left sooner to avoid this shit. You guys, however, have a lot more to apologize to me for. And if you think you don't, then go read your comments about me on Majisuka. I'm sure you'll understand.

Edit: Also, I'm not leaving here because all my stories are here. I do plan on returning to them at some point. Just trying to deal with my shit. Was I gonna rp on RPGuild? Yeah, to expand my horizons. I thought you guys left to Majisuka? I mean, everyone is there and more shit is going on there. Why even bother fucking this place up?

Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked...Until we close our eyes for good.
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Yurei
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Times change. Lives change. People change.

I know - because he told me so - that Kai had nothing but the highest hopes for you. You poisoned that one, not me. Your viciousness, your unwillingness to work with him, and the spite you gave him for his Training Plan, which he was deeply remorseful for not being able to attend to the way he'd hoped, was what got Kai angry. Right even up until your previous Public Shitfit, he was hopeful and figured you for a standby of the Crew, same as you always were.

Here's the thing though, Josh. There's only one way to learn this game and that is by doing it. Everyone I have ever spoken to - Cort, Reno, Kai, Anshin, Dias, EVERYONE - says the same thing. Kai was going to put you on an accelerated course, devote his best to trying to catch you up. You threw it in his face, threw it in all our faces, over some random comment on Maji I can't even find.

Stop blaming us for your lack of ability. You have been given every chance to improve and have thrown them all away. Until recently, your terrible storytelling and questionable tactical ability wasn't even held against you. Even your miserable posting habits, the two-month delays that were a constant with you, were tolerable if unappreciated.

Your piss poor attitude can take a walk, though. I'm done putting up with it. Kai's done putting up with it. Everyone else is done putting up with it. Here's the sordid, unvarnished truth for you, Josh: nobody wants to play with you anymore. We've all tried. We've all been burned. Every time we tried to prop you up you got bitchy. Every time we tried to teach you, you got bitchy. Every time someone asked you why you did something weird, you got bitchy. You got defensive, nasty, insular, and just plain mean with us.

So we're not going to play with you anymore until you fix it.

Stop smoking fifteen pounds of weed every day. Get some medical help for this depression you've done nothing but muddle through for the last few years. Clean up your act and get your shit together. I said it last time and I'll say it again - this place isn't going anywhere. We may facelift it, but it's our board. If Reno comes back and boots us all off, restores it to its previous state, that's his prerogative as root admin. In the meantime, this is our house and it's about damn time we tidied up a little bit.

Your approval is neither required nor desired.
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Gotcha. Words taken loud and clear. Delete this thread. Its not needed.

*smokes his joint while walking off into the sunset, both hands raised high with middle fingers shining towards Laser*

Edit: and since you seem to forgotten, here.

"LeeRoy would have to throw a punch first, and if his fight with Cee back in the day was any indication I don't know if he can throw punches without having to psych himself up for fifteen turns first. if Jiggler can ever get over his issue with three-sentence shitposts (and bitching at people who razz him on his tendency for three-sentence shitposts) and constantly losing his Internet so he has to three-sentence shitpost from his phone, he's at least capable of throwing a punch."

Three sentence shitposts? I thought I had improved and you wanna throw that out there? I don't recall a single post in our fight, Laser, in which I posted any less than two paragraphs. Maybe a paragraph and a half. Ans yes, I had checked the dates. This was a few days prior to my comment on RPGuild. But, ya know, whatever. Your comments don't matter like mine do, apparently.

Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked...Until we close our eyes for good.
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Yurei
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What are you looking for here, Josh?

For one, that thread was me specifically pulling for you to come out ahead of LeeRoy. Which is apparent even in that specific blurb. LeeRoy has moderately better wordsmithing skills than you do but his actual combat ability is at the level of a fried dumpling. As evinced by the fact that Black basically Saitama'd him with Blythe. But nah, go ahead and continue focusing on the sass.

For two? You're doing exactly what that blurb laments - bitching at people for razzing you on your shitposting. Yeah, sometimes you produce good work - but just as often you wait two months, then toss off the next best thing to a one-liner that says 'pass'. A one-liner that equates to 'pass' is a shitpost, and does nothing but hang up a story for no damned good reason.
You're unreliable, and unreliability is never a useful trait. Reliability and tactical acumen are what Kai wanted to help train you in, and you spat it in his face. So...yeah. Good job, I guess?

For three? You and I can sit here and snipe at each other all the live-long day and it won't accomplish anything save hardening people's positions. I'm trying to figure out where you see the advantage to be had in this conversation. It's mostly just a reprise of the last one, with you blowing fire my way and me sitting here being unimpressed. What's the objective? What's the endgame? Is this really how you think you'll be able to work your way back into folks' good graces?

A tip for you, man: it's not. There's some folks around who're willing to give you a shot yet, who figure you're just in a low point and are waiting for you to pull out of it. Yeah, there are also a few folks who're not so kindly inclined, but if I can exist on a board with Aristocrat on it, you can exist on a board with me on it. But you're not going to get any slack by giving me lip and continuing July's hissyfit.

You want people to give you the time of day again? You want your opinion to hold weight again? Prove that you can woman up, shake Kai's hand, and ask him to forgive your two-month breach of etiquette. I won't make you shake mine. You do you, and I'll do me. But you're going to be doing you solo for quite some time at the rate you're going here, dude.
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Geraven
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I have nothing against Kai. Same thing I said before, his training with me is the wrong way to go about it. Wanna kill me over and over? Than we'll do real matches. Not something hidden away.

But you. Yes, you say you are pulling for me, while simultaneously talking shit about me to your buddies. We all know I can take a joke about myself and dish it back. Or accept it, crack another one on me, and move on. But that was really fucking low, Laser. Especially on a board I had no clue existed. At least my shit to you was able to be seen by you without some other person having to tell you where it was.

And this is the last I'll ever say about this. Don't worry, I'm done now. Delete the thread, close it, whatever. Kai wants to talk to me, he can PM me. But I doubt it.

Edit: Also, in case you haven't been there and noticed, my fight with Lee has been on hold since you Lucha's thoroughly trounced him and made him take a hiatus. I have done no writing since because I've been trying to deal with my shit, though I need to get a post up in case he's back.

Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked...Until we close our eyes for good.
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I'm pretty sure the trainee in every scenario that ever was doesn't get to pick what the trainer does or doesn't do. You're focusing on the wrong part of what it was about. Like I said before, I consider it my fault for dropping so behind on that thread. It happened because you took a few months to respond to the very first post, and I got wrapped up in the few threads I was involved with, in the little time I have for posts.

You literally don't know what I had planned, how the fuck do you know it wouldn't work? It could have been chalked up as exposure training the way laser said it earlier. To give you experience in a long-term game that focused on teaching you to survive with harder and harder scenarios. I used this type of training with someone before that none of you met, but he was a friend of Hota. Went by Cross.

I could say more but I gotta get ready for work. You can keep asking for this thread to be closed all you want, but it's staying open. Easier to keep everything consolidated into one place so there's no confusion or loss in translation.
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So, your plan was kill me over and over again til I learned, right? I mean, THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS. Dude, with how down on myself I am, do you really think that's the best way to teach me?

Then again, you're right. I'm just an eternal trainee. I'm never gonna be better, hell I'm surprised I was kept in the Crew as long as I was. Because when anyone tries to help me, I end up just pissing them off in the end due to me being down on myself.

Dias says that might actually be my strength, that I don't see anything good about me. Because he seems to think (I don't see it) that I'm already pretty good cause of mine and his fight. I keep telling him he's just going easy on me, but he denies it.

Anyway, if you wanna keep this open, go for it. I'm done with the argument that goes nowhere on either side and will just end with me getting banned for speaking my mind. So say what you guys want, this is the last reply from me.

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Yurei
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Jesus fuckmothering Christ on a donkey stampede...

JOSH. LISTEN TO ME. LISTEN TO YOURSELF. Would you want to play with you right now? Listen to the angsty pisspression party you're putting on here. Lordamighty guy, I'm not fucking joking when I say this, all right? Let me make it as starkly plain as I possibly can for you here:

GET. SOME. GODDAMNED. HELP!

I've had friends who needed an informal suicide watch due to depression and anxiety issues. I have a friend who actively tried to suicide. If you're as constantly depressed and unable to function in society as you keep saying you are, stop fucking smoking yourself to death to cope and
GET ACTUAL HELP!

See a fucking doctor. They exist for a reason. I cannot do a thing to help you from here. None of us can. Get off the cannabis, get onto actual medication. Or get into therapy. Stop trying to lash out at me, stop trying to sacrifice your shit because you're feeling low.

Instead? Maybe try and find ways the world can help you to stop feeling low.
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That was a very crude way of explaining it, yeah. Guess we'll never learn whether it would work or not. Did you really think I would be so one dimensional? Of course I know killing you for the sake of doing so would accomplish nothing. I don't train people because it takes time and effort I was never willing to waste on someone that wouldn't appreciate it. That's why I asked beforehand, I didn't tell you you'd be getting the training whether you liked it or not.

The key would have been time. Effort. Trying to figure out scenarios and how to not die prematurely. Forcing you to think inside and outside the box.

If I can teach Marines with questionable literacy how to fix complex weapon and targeting systems, I'm pretty fucking sure I can teach someone to be better at a fucking game they've been playing almost as long as I have.

You wanna throw it in my face? Fine. Fuck you too little buddy.
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Hey, I was trying there, and you said so. I wasn't so down about the training, but cause it was taking so long I got discouraged that you felt I wasnt worth it anymore.

I don't know. My bad on questioning your methods. Not like I'll get that opportunity again. But hey, maybe one day I'll come back and be able to surprise you guys. Who knows.

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LoL Drama.
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Howdy Griff. How's life treating ya?

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Pretty great man.
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Good to hear.

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A blast from the past.
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SHUT UP KYLE! SHEESH!
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