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Case of the mistaken identity
Topic Started: Feb 12 2007, 01:51 PM (684 Views)
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I got this e-mail from the Butch Hartman forum:

CDB,

For posting indecent material on the Official Butch Hartman Forum under
the account name “K9revo”, and for your involvement with individuals
who engage in child predator behavior on the Internet as well as
defacement of Mr. Hartman’s material, your account on the Official Butch
Hartman Forum has been terminated.

Regards,
Zcat6
BHF Administrator


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I don't know how, why, and who decided to put this on me but I know from all my posts and fanarts, that I am innocent. I only use one...and one username "only" on internet forums.

The pics I post on that forum are mainly my Undivided crossover fanarts, that you can regularly see on D.A.

But the one accsation that really..."Really" hit below the belt, was the assumption they made that says that I engage in Child predator behavior. That's the low blow. >:( >:(

I'm hoping the admistrator gets me e-mail and this can worked out, cleared up or whatever. Once it is, then I'm officially leaving that board for good.
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And the hits just keep on coming:

And the hits just keep on coming. I tried to get in contact with Zcat, by signing up under a new username, and talking with him about this. No go... check this:


Mandie_fan,

Your member account at The Official Butch Hartman Forum has been
terminated.

Regardless of what new names or proxy IPs you choose to use, CDB, you
are no longer welcome on this forum -- a direct consequence of your own
choices. We certainly will not try to tell you what to do with your
life, but please do all us actual fans of Butch and his shows a favor and
stay away from this and other boards/sites that genuinely support Mr.
Hartman and his series. Thanks.

Regards,
Zcat6
Admin.




Well at least he said thanks. So know, I'm branded for something I didn't do and for someone (K9revo) who I'm not.

For those of you who are on the Butch Hartman Forum (and Danny Phantom Online) and who visited the threads that I'd made on that site check.. I think you for reading and commenting, especially on my fanfics and the fanart.

Thank you. You can find the same fanfic and fanarts here on Luke's board. Which 10x as better by the way.
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...that's odd. If you use AOL, maybe IPs got switched around and confused.
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Feb 12 2007, 03:12 PM
...that's odd. If you use AOL, maybe IPs got switched around and confused.

I don't know if that happened or not. I don't use AOL.

But even if it did Zcat's not gonna listen nor is she even gonna attempt to try and find out. I tried to talk with and well, look at the 2nd message I got from her.
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Identity theft?
"To give and not to count the cost... to fight and not to heed the wounds... to toil and not to seek for rest... to labor and ask not for reward..."

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Feb 12 2007, 07:09 PM
Identity theft?

I think so, but the admins over there will not let me know. Nor will they talk to me about it. The just banned me completely.
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The saga concludes:

Subject: Clarification, Apology, and Affirmation ( From The Official Butch Hartman Forum )
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:08:18 -0500

Zcat6 has sent you this email from [link]


CDB,

We have run further analysis on your and the user "Krevo"'s IPs, and I have an update on our findings. While one of your proxies matched the Krevo account, we discovered upon additional investigation that this was, in fact, an artifact of your proxy generator. In other words, we realize now that you were probably not the individual who posted recent policy-violating images on the BHF forum, although due to the match, we cannot confirm this completely. Still, because of the discrepancy, we will give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you as innocent of this event. We apologize for any inconvenience.

Regarding your suspension, however, your clear support of individuals who have engaged in child predator behavior upholds your permanent ban from this forum. As I’m sure you can understand, it is both unsafe and unethical to allow supporters of pedophiles onto a forum populated by a large number of minors.

In this instance, and just to make the matter clear since you seem to be ignorant of the situation, there is no doubt as to the predator’s guilt of soliciting kids for online sex and attempted in-person meetings. I have spoken with some of the individual's victims (some girls as young as eleven) and their parents directly and have seen the evidence in the form of lewd and sexually explicit chat logs and emails myself. I will be happy to put you in contact with one of the officers involved in the police investigation if you wish to speak with the authorities working on this case.

Further, your support of “artists” who depict Mr. Hartman’s characters in an inappropriate manner by itself warrants a ban from the BHF forum, as is stated in our rules which I will copy and paste here as an addendum for your convenience.

Again, my apologies for the original accusation. Best of luck with your life choices and chosen affiliations.

Regards,
Zcat
Administrator, OBHF



Here's the response that I'd sent:

I thank you for understanding and for discovering the truth behind this.

I was not aware of Krevo being a member of the forum and nor was I aware of the fact that different users have could have the same IP addresses. I'll will take steps to protect my own IP address and online identity from now on.

As the assumption of me supporting "alleged" pedophilles or child predators. That in itself is entirely false and subject of suit for defamation of character against me and to those whom I assiocate with, and for those unfairly blacklisted on the forum.

I will not take legal action for this assumption. But I ask for a cease of labeling "innocent" people on who support said child predator. I also that "untampered proof be showning of the alleged guilt" of the assumed "child predator" by shown.


Futhermore, I accept you apology for intial allegation. And announced that I've come to the decision that I will not return to both the Butch Hartman forum and the Danny Phantom Online forum.

I will still be an active member and fan of Butch's shows. And will seek membership of other sites of the fanbase.

As well for the fans of my fanfics and fanarts. Tell them that they will be updated on my Deviantart site, and other fourms. For information about them, I can be reached here: cdb2k3@yahoo.com


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This drama is done and I now wash my hands off this and both forums. I
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You what? Lol. You got cleared for the less minor blame, I think - maybe some of the users ganged up on you and created false chats?
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Feb 13 2007, 07:49 PM
You what? Lol. You got cleared for the less minor blame, I think - maybe some of the users ganged up on you and created false chats?

Nah, it's because the people who I assoicate with off the forums. I'm on Deviantart and there's one massive and idiotic Danny Phantom fandom war going on. Apparanetly, to them I faved the worng people's fanarts and got caught in the crossfire.

And oh here's the last e-mail I got:

Thank you for the reply.

I do not wish to burden you with ongoing communications since you seem to have indicated that you are set in your perceptions regarding this matter, but there are a few things which I feel you need to be made aware of before we go our separate ways.

1. I have a seasoned attorney on retainer and have for many years, and have discussed what you call "legal action" issues regarding this case at length. First of all, you cannot "defame" a screen name. Trying to sue someone for this will be thrown out of court before you even start as a frivolous and baseless lawsuit. Persons attempting to file something like this could even be fined for abuse of our justice system. That being said, if the person in question wishes to sue me, I would be happy to put him in touch with my attorney. I would love the opportunity to have his computer hard drives subpoenaed, and all his victims brought to court to present their evidence. We already have an extensive e-paper trail of all his activities from the victims to back up every "allegation." He would be convicted by any jury instantly as a direct result of his solicitation and lewd interactions with these children.

2. The "alleged" allegations are 100% true. I have seen the evidence myself and talked with the victims and their parents as well as numerous police officers at both state and federal levels in this process, as I may have mentioned. I have already given my affidavit and would be delighted to serve as a character witness when the individual eventually comes to trial, as he undoubtedly will. The fact that you claim these "allegations" as false indicates to me that you truly do not have any knowledge of the real situation, and for that you have my sympathy. I wish you enlightenment and an ability to see through the smoke and mirrors.

3. Unless you are a deputized officer of the law, I do not owe you nor anyone "untampered proof" of the attacks on the child victims. These kids have been traumatized enough, and many are in therapy now as a result of the molestation they were subjected to. They do not deserve to be re-victimized by making their trials public. Also, I have been instructed by police to keep all information I have been privy to confidential. You are welcome to believe or disbelieve me, of course, but quite frankly, I owe you nothing.

As you are entitled to follow predators, pedophiles, or anyone else you desire, so I am entitled to take every measure I can to keep my forums safe. This includes removing people who either knowingly or unknowingly support individuals I have seen with my own eyes behave in predatorial fashion. As I mentioned, I would be sorely remiss in my duty to ignore a potentially dangerous situation, especially when I have seen the evidence myself.

One more thing I think you should be aware of. I have been asked to supply screen names of affiliates, which I have done. I am unclear how police intend to use this information. Recognizing the severity and gravity of this issue, I would simply encourage you to evaluate all potential consequences of your chosen associations before you commit yourself into a situation you may find difficult to extricate yourself from later. Just some words of friendly advice for a former member of my forums whom I once admired as a clever and creative artist and writer.

Best of luck to you.


Luke, bless you again for having this forum up. And for being an compent leader and adminstrator.
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What a terrible situation, CDB. Those are pretty radical accusations if you ask me, and I don't blame you for not wanting to go back there. At least you have a home, here. We all know you're not that kind of a guy. :smile:
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Feb 13 2007, 10:17 PM
What a terrible situation, CDB. Those are pretty radical accusations if you ask me, and I don't blame you for not wanting to go back there. At least you have a home, here. We all know you're not that kind of a guy. :smile:

Thank you, luke. That truly means alot to me. :cheers:
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So they think they'll see you in trial soon? ...how old are you again? :P
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Feb 13 2007, 11:35 PM
So they think they'll see you in trial soon? ...how old are you again? :P

LOL, I'm way old enough to not to be told who and what sites I should not be associated with. But legal wise, there's not gonna be anything filled. This issue so far is over and done with.
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I remember a time when that forum was viewable by guests. I checked it out on occasion. Then they restricted access to guests and you had to join in order to see the posts. Well, I thought about joining, but figured I wouldn't really get much use out of it. I can see that I made a good choice. :D
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Feb 14 2007, 07:13 PM
I remember a time when that forum was viewable by guests. I checked it out on occasion. Then they restricted access to guests and you had to join in order to see the posts. Well, I thought about joining, but figured I wouldn't really get much use out of it. I can see that I made a good choice. :D

Defintely, was a good call on your part. It was nothing special besides, hearing from Butch from time to time.
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