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can't be healthy; baby swing
Topic Started: Tuesday Dec 9 2008, 02:16 PM (251 Views)
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Saw this in the paper, pretty brutal stuff. I wonder if this baby will have arthritis by the time it's two.

Edit: Link removed due to Australian Communist Agenda


Edited by King Hiss, Thursday Dec 11 2008, 12:14 PM.

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Guy's, before you even look at this thing, read the below news story from yesterday-

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A Queensland man has been charged for re-publishing on a video-sharing site a viral video of a man swinging a baby around like a rag doll.

The controversial three-minute video had already been published widely across the internet and shown on American TV news shows. The clip can still be found online today.

Chris Illingworth, 60, a father of four from Maroochydore, thought he would share it with fellow users of Liveleak, a site similar to YouTube but focused on news and current events. In two years, he has uploaded hundreds of videos to Liveleak.

His home was raided on Sunday, November 30, by Queensland Police from Task Force Argos, which specialises in combating child pornography and child groomers.

He was charged with using the internet to access and publish child-abuse material and is scheduled to appear in court in Maroochydore on December 18.

It is understood that he had no involvement in the creation of the video, which cannot be published on this website for legal reasons.

The baby is laughing and smiling at the end of the clip, but the video has attracted criticism from child-welfare advocates because of how vigorously the man swings the baby by its arms.

In a phone interview, Illingworth described the clip as a "common interest story" and rejected any suggestions he was a child abuser or interested in such material.

He said that since being charged he could not eat, sleep or work and was worried his children and people in the local community would think he was a pedophile.

"I've had to go down to the hospital, my blood pressure is 160/108 and I'm on blood pressure pills and valium - all because of this," he said.

"Do they realise what pain they put someone through? I could fall over dead over this. I can't even get the office work done. I'm just a zombie."

Queensland Police confirmed the charges but refused to comment, saying it would be inappropriate as the matter was before the courts.

Illingworth said his life changed the moment two officers - a detective chief inspector and a detective chief constable - banged on his door and demanded they search his house.

"I went to turn on the laptop and they got stinking mad, as if I was trying to delete something I guess, and I was just trying to be helpful," he said.

The officers plugged a small black box into his computer and proceeded for an hour and a half to analyse the contents of his hard drive in a search for child pornography.

Illingworth said the officers insisted on visiting his office at a mechanic workshop to examine his computer there. They found nothing, Illingworth said.

Before being taken to the police station, Illingworth was allowed to make one call, which he used to phone the owner of Liveleak in Britain to ask that the video be removed.

He was advised to get a lawyer but declined as he was unable to find one on a Sunday afternoon, he said.

At Maroochydore police station, Illingworth was interviewed without a lawyer. He was forced to provide fingerprints, a DNA sample and a mug-shot photograph.

"They wouldn't let me go to the toilet without them coming with me - I couldn't go anywhere without someone following me," he said.

The officers explained to Illingworth that they traced him using his IP address after someone in Britain reported the video clip to police. Interpol had found the clip was originally uploaded to a Russian website.

"It's going to ruin my f---ing life and everything. I'm 60 years old and what did I do wrong?" Illingworth said.

"I didn't make it, I didn't play with a baby, I just uploaded it [the video clip]. It's nothing sexual or anything else - just a smiling baby."

Liveleak owner Hayden Hewitt has published a video on the site defending Illingworth and calling on members to help publicise the incident and "fight injustice".

"Clearly the behaviour in the video is reckless, but I couldn't say it's abuse," he said.

Colin Jacobs, vice-chairman of the online users' rights lobby group Electronic Frontiers Australia, said public anxiety around the depiction of children seemed to have spiked in recent times, fuelled by politicians and anti-child-abuse campaigners.

"It's now reached the point where any parent would have to think twice about posting a photo of their children to a photo-sharing website," he said.

"Cases like this seem to indicate that we've gone beyond the point of the sensible and entered into hysteria territory."


Now, I think it's a total load of bullshit, but I don't want to see anyone here getting in shit over this either.
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woah am i in trouble for posting that? Delete it please. Don't have time for prison...

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No, it should be fine. You're just linking to a site in the US which streams it, and they don't seem to have an issue with it over there. The guy in the article reposted the video on a website. Different ball game, but something to be aware of.

If you still want to delete it, you can edit your own post. I'll leave it to you to decide since I think it's a total load of shit.
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i loaded it but closed dont want cops raiding my place haha


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Apparently anyone watching that vid is now a criminal.

I'm going to reluctantly remove the link for the sake of protecting all members.

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Police say it is a crime for anyone to even watch a viral video of a man swinging a baby around the room.

Their comment comes after uproar over 60-year-old Chris Illingworth, a father of four from Maroochydore, was charged with posting the video on Liveleak after he stumbled across it on YouTube.

The video, which shows a man swinging a baby over his head by his arms, was broadcast on US television and has been viewed by hundreds of thousands of people on the internet.

But, despite that, Mr Illingworth's home was raided after he posted the clip on Liveleak and he was charged with using the internet to access and publish child-abuse material.

The charge has proven controversial because the baby - reportedly part of a Russian circus family - is laughing and smiling at the end of the clip.

Online rights activists and academics say the case has far-reaching implications for individuals sharing content online, as it is now clear they can be held just as liable as traditional publishers.

Online users' lobby group Electronic Frontiers Australia (EFA) has contacted Illingworth to provide him assistance with fighting his case.

EFA vice-chair Colin Jacobs said the law was a blunt instrument and no blunter than when applied to the internet.

"Any internet user could stumble upon these sorts of 'viral videos', which are a far cry from the organised child abusers against whom the laws are targeted," he said.

"I think that now, Australians could justifiably feel very afraid that casual internet use might bring the police to their door."

Australian laws around the publishing of such material are far stricter than overseas.

Here, news stations have shown only the beginning and end of the clip, while this website has been advised by lawyers not to show any of the clip at all.

In a statement, Queensland police said the term "child abuse material" even extended to clips where the child "appears" to be a victim of cruelty.

The clip, criticised by child-welfare advocates because of how vigorously the man swings the baby by its arms, was created without any involvement of Illingworth, who has published hundreds of other clips on the Liveleak site.
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yep thanks mate, I was about to edit it too. Just read that in the paper. Bit of a crock I say.

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With all the stories coming out the last few days, we'll all be jailed for pedophilia before we see another Christmas after this one.

Cartoons count as child porn, swinging a baby is child abuse, smacking a kid is assault, camera's are getting banned from beaches, where the hell does it end? Everyone's guilty before they're innocent.
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