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Topic Started: Saturday Jun 4 2011, 02:36 PM (470 Views)
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Just had a bit of a splash on a few games and picked this up for PS3.
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While I like the game itself, I'm rather disappointed by the graphics. Not sure if the 360 version is the same, but it has constant texture pop in. While the Unreal engine has that first few moments where the textures all slowly pop up, they are all stable after that. This game seems to run on Carmacks theory of not wasting resources on objects you can't see at that time, but turn quickly to look in the other direction and there's the pop in again. Really annoying in parts.
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Maybe thats why they claimed it would keep your FPS at 60 and scaling detail on the fly on all console/pcs etc some kinda resource optimisation which never works too well in the end.


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Well IMO it fails and looks like shit. I can't believe people are calling this the best looking game on the PS3. If you stand still for a few seconds, yeah, but they should have just ditched the frame rate a bit instead.

I see people saying how much it annoys them on other forums only to get get drowned out by those who think it's fantastic. Perhaps it annoys some people more than others, but it's obvious there is a fair bit of blind ignorance going on over this.

Sorry Mr Carmack, love all your work but there is no way I'd be buying your engine over Epic's if I was making a game for anything other than a high end PC.
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Seems ps3 got the raw deal. Eurogamer have put up their comparison, but I've read elsewhere as well that the ps3 version has issues with texture streaming. The 360 version does as well, unless it's fully installed. Even the PC version seems to be having issues from what reports I've read.

It's impressive what they're doing to keep a steady 60 FPS framerate, but then wipeout hd manages that at 1080p or in 3d... So not as impressive as mr carmacks previous achievements. Particularly if it's making the game look a bit shit.
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I can't stand games that load on the fly, it always ends up looking like crap, or glitching out like Crackdown did and never load the textures up so you're traversing in an invisible walled world.

Has to be invisible to keep the consistent flow of gameplay.

Surprised they capped the FPS at 60 on PC, surely leave it open and let the user tweak it as required like any other game.


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Seems ps3 got the raw deal. Eurogamer have put up their comparison, but I've read elsewhere as well that the ps3 version has issues with texture streaming. The 360 version does as well, unless it's fully installed. Even the PC version seems to be having issues from what reports I've read.
Apparently the problem is greatly improved on the PS3 by installing an SSD. Surely no sane person though would go to that much hassle and cost to remove a second or two of load time for one game? It does raise the question though of how the 360 version can be faster if it's a case of drive speed.
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360 uninstalled is worse than ps3 apparently, but 360 installed fully to drive is better. Apparently there's a splash screen recommending full install on the 360 version.

Why they didn't include a full install option for the ps3 - all of which have a hard drive - heaven knows.
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Does the game install to PS3 HDD? I didn't think the PS3 did that, only dumped saves and updates on the HDD.

Surprised anyone runs games on the 360 without installing to the HDD.. the drive itself is ridiculously loud, and since its known for scratching discs and contributing to the overheating, even more reason to install to the HD.


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Maybe i should install Dark souls to the HDD. Seems to make a fair noise when playing, but then again i am usually wearing my turtles so i can't hear shit and it does provide good white noise for the young lad if he's sleeping

Been thinking about getting one of the new Xbox's but every time i do i think 'why bother'. Mines running fine and there'll probably be an xbox 720 around the corner
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It's definitely worth installing any 360 game to hdd, if you are limited for space just install the one you are playing most at the mo. Improves load times, and reduces wear on the drive.

As for the ps3 - jams, lots of ps3 games have a mandatory install. But rarely do they install the full game (if ever... I can't think of any that let you install the full game)
yo listen up here's a story
about a little guy that lives in a blue world
and all day and all night and everything he sees
is just blue like him inside and outside
blue his house with a blue little window
and a blue corvette
and everything is blue for him and hisself
and everybody around
cos he ain't got nobody to listen to

i'm blue da ba dee da ba die...
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Monday Oct 10 2011, 12:15 PM
Does the game install to PS3 HDD? I didn't think the PS3 did that, only dumped saves and updates on the HDD.
Most of the big games have a mandatory install of 1-4Gb, usually just to reduce seek times for textures. ID got special permission from Sony to have an 8Gb install for Rage. They should have asked for a full install option, but surely you'd think that having all the textures on there would do the trick anyway?
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This is the first thing you see when playing the PS3 version with a regular hard drive-



This is with an SSD-



Still slightly existant, but mostly taken care of.

This is what it does on a PC if you aren't packing serious hardware-



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Ew.. horrible, that would bug me to no end, its almost like a distraction and along the lines of screen tearing issues bugging you as well.

SSD doesn't make much improvement but then again its not like its fully installed I suppose, to me all the textures should be optimised and ready to go on the fly a lot better than that.

The PC version was chunky, Im guessing the guy had it jacked up on high settings to demonstrate.
Edited by JAMSIN, Monday Oct 10 2011, 03:58 PM.


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I have a problem when Im asked to insert another disc. When I do, an error message pops up telling me an update is required but is not available. Then it dashboards me. But starting the game back up with the new disc in works fine.
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played it in the shop after stealing control of some asian kid. Didn't do much for me.

Any reviews? Ideas?

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Monday Oct 10 2011, 09:59 PM
played it in the shop after stealing control of some asian kid. Didn't do much for me.
Well maybe if you didn't 'control' the asian kid and instead used the controller to play the game you might get a better result..

Unless of course you're into kiddie fiddling asians and are after that 'happy ending' then continue as you were you evil evil man.


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You'd be winning if it was a math game the at least
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I have visions of frosty standing behind some primary school kid shouting "now go left motherfucker... Shoot him you little bastard, shoot him"...
yo listen up here's a story
about a little guy that lives in a blue world
and all day and all night and everything he sees
is just blue like him inside and outside
blue his house with a blue little window
and a blue corvette
and everything is blue for him and hisself
and everybody around
cos he ain't got nobody to listen to

i'm blue da ba dee da ba die...
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haha and then push him aside and go "gimme that, this is how you play you little bastard... aim shoot and bam, see.. now that wasn't hard was it you little fuck".



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