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Should Gauntlet continue to kick our asses on the VOGON InstalKill Server?
Gauntlet 10 (34.5%)
No Gauntlet 19 (65.5%)
Total Votes: 29
GAUNTLET ON INSTAKILL SERVER
Topic Started: Jan 30 2008, 10:10 AM (537 Views)
camper_cootie
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Ok, after playing on the rail server a few times I discovered regular anarchy players there using nothing but Guantlet. While guantlet is a funny weapon to use sometimes, it's almost impossible to get away from when combined with hook. I was on the server with an admin and out of 7 people we were the only two using rail. The guantlet abuser had all the other players using guantlet as well. So the admin asked if anybody wanted guantlet gone. I said yes. WHY HAVE A RAIL SERVER and not use rail? I was for guantlet at one point, but playing on the server more i realize that guantlet never runs out of ammo nor are there any shot delays. I personally don't think it's a fair weapon on the rail server. Either make the server all guantlet or all rail LOL guantlet just tips the scale on what's skilled and what's not.

Now the reason I started this poll is because a player who was beating everybody with only guantlet or with TELE AND QAUD was mad when the admin took away guantlet because he actually had to work at making frags. And today after losing to me a few times he got upset and called me petty because he no longer had the guantlet advantage. This is not meant to be a personal gripe, but I figured I would ask everyone what they think about what the long term advantage to having or not having guantlet is gonna cause. If one person always wins with guantlet, then everybody will use nothing but guantlet to try and keep up. So why have rail? We already have a free for all server where just anybody with a spam finger can win. This is a skill server however, and why continue to allow the use of a non-skilled weapon to dominate?

So with that said, should guantlet stay or go?
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camper_cootie
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Any feedback is also welcome. This was not meant to be a one-sided thing. I see the good and bad of using guantlet or any other weapon. Each weapon has a good use. I mainly just wanted some other opinions. Have a great night everybody.
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4G63
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It's a "rail" server. No need for guantlet. My personal opinion
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AbsolutGorjira
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Hey Camper Cootie,

I'm one of the people who use gauntlet a lot and I think I do okay with it. I had no idea this was ever an issue as I don't think anyone has complained to me before.

When I play, I do it for fun and to blow off steam... not for stats or to be a jerk or anything. I'm not that great a player, but I try to stay aware of what I'm doing and not make others have a bad time.

I started using the gauntlet because I think it's an interesting change in style and tactics. Sure it was kind of funny at first, but I liked having to make myself adjust and stay competitive. After reading so many in-game messages complaining about pretty much *every single other weapon* that any particular person might use, I figured surely I'd never see "gauntlet spam".

I've played games when a bunch of players switch to gauntlet, and they generally seemed to have fun... guess it's not always considered a real weapon so it's interesting to see someone give it a shot.

I understand your points and maybe I've unknowingly annoyed someone.

Should gauntlet be on instakill? I thought the purpose of instakill was for focused low-splash/high-damage weapons -- gauntlet would make sense. If it really is only a rail server, then sure yank it.

If allowed, can it be abused? I say the same thing for other weapon/camp debates. Assuming there's no "funny business", it's up to me to adjust my game and even the balance. A second issue is ping time... rail benefits from a higher ping. Might be hard to compete with rail at 130, so gauntlet can even the balance with the person at 33.

In the end if the gauntlet is removed, somebody will complain about the quad advantage. Take out the quad, complaints about rate-of-fire advantages... etc, etc.

Thoughts?
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camper_cootie
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No, this thread had nothing to do with you. I realize that everybody has a different opinion about guantlet. And yes you are correct. It was an instakill server, not a rail server. They only thing i can say is that with rate of fire set lower than the average excessive server is that it takes time before you can shoot again while somebody is hooking to you with an endless supply of guantlet LOL. I understand the upside to having guantlet and in some servers it can be a challenge to use. I guess I am more geared toward having a challenging game and on this server guantlet provides no challenge.

Don't get me wrong, there is some skill in how you use it, even on this server, but this is all said in one guy's opinion. I'm not the say so on whether guantlet stays or goes, I only wanted feedback as opposed to just bitching because somebody got the best of me LOL :) I can use guantlet and most times get a win so it's not that im at a disadvantage. I just like the new server because it's not chaotic like Anarchy, and it provides a place for my playing to improve. Since Instakill was started, my rail shots have improved greatly on the Anarchy server.

Anyway, thanks for you feedback AbsolutGorjira. I've enjoyed fraggin you on the server and look forward to some more. HAHA!! Have a good night.
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mordockdotcom
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The original suggestion that led to the Instakill server specifically referred to a rail-only server (VIEW THREAD HERE). I've made it pretty clear what my feelings toward the gauntlet are, so I'll spare you the long explanation. (I don't like the gauntlet :P )

Obviously dyn is in no way bound to any one comment here on the forum... especially because there are usually dozens of them. That being said, my support of the new server was based on it being rail-only. I probably wouldn't have been quite so hasty if I'd known gauntlet was going to be included.

Do I still play the server? Yes. Do I still win on the server? Yes. ... Well, sometimes. Do I whine about the guantlet in-game? Absolutely not.

I hate hearing about the "abuse" of any one aspect of a server's rules. Whether it's the MG having too many rounds, or people camping, or a player utilizing quad, or the gauntlet being used effectively, I don't want to hear about. If someone is playing within the parameters of the server, then they aren't doing anything that you couldn't do. It's not cheating, and it's not abuse.

All of that being said, Cootie, I agree with you, and am glad that you have come to realize that the qauntlet has no place on the Instakill server. BUT, I also hope that people aren't running around in-game bitching because they got fragged by someone using a perfectly legitimate weapon.

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Executor
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Rail only - pretty much says it all.
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Levis
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This is true.. I went on anarchy for my first time (no i'm not the regular levis that goes on anarchy, he's using my name.. i'm the ctf levis ;) ) and after a couple runs was easily getting first place because of the gauntlet after i saw someone else using it, I copied them. And to tell the truth.. it was too easy. So I railed a bit more and left. But anyways, i'm agreeing gauntlet is cheap. lol
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mordockdotcom
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I assume that you are talking about INSTAKILL (rail/gauntlet) and not ANARCHY (FFA), Levis.
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Levis
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MY BAD
... lol yea you're right doc
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Firebird
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I actually liked the gauntlet on the instakill server, made the small maps fun.
i vote for turning it back on :D
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irideck
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Ooo, I get to play Devil's Advocate. Whee-fun! Cootie, while I agree that there's considerably more skill involved with the railgun, keep in mind that the server is named "INSTAKILL," not "RAIL ONLY," "NO GAUNTLETS ALLOWED," "SNIPE SOME N00BS" or anything like that.

With that being said, both the gauntlet and the railgun are "instakill"-type weapons. You can also kill players with your hook, but that takes a split-second. In a weird twist of luck, I seem to do it all the time, though not on Instakill.

If you want to have some fun, why not switch to gauntlet yourself and see how many you can nail from behind while they're busy looking for you? :)
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orange_joos
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^^^

wurd lol
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dyn
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Yea, i agree, Gauntlet can be pretty Insta with our default settings. As an added bonus Ms.Gauntlet many times frags campers. :)

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