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Topic Started: Mar 19 2008, 06:03 AM (1,124 Views)
Levis
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Can we switch it back to the 3 shot? or make the one shot more powerful? railbfg hits better, is faster.. but can't jump half as much as 3shot lol.
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Kakarott
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I agree bfg 3 shot is mainly why i use it for "jump"
and 3 shot is always better for lesser skilled players but better for advanced players
so i can understand why its limited to one but yea 3 in my opinion is better

kaka
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PAGANEO.COM
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i cant play with this settings :( now, the BFG suddenly has one ball instead of 3 and the ammo right when i have the guy in sight! tells me that im empty on rounds! :(
you should have just change the flag settings not the amo and weapons.
if it is for the spawn camping just bann the ones that do it... dont take it on everyone else

Is the tournament going to be with this settings? i think i wont be able to participate if it is :(

i allready miss the old settings :(
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PAGANEO.COM
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Shooting your own flag is a legal thing i think we allready talked about that in another threat or in chat. Now i cant defend my flag or wait in a corner for the other guy with my flag cause i cant shoot faster.
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mordockdotcom
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Just in case anyone is interested... this is a previous thread on the 3-way BFG same topic.

CLICK HERE TO VIEW THREAD
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mordockdotcom
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For anyone interested, here is an old thread on the same topic:

CLICK HERE TO VIEW OLD THREAD
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Kakarott
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limmited ammo is good bfg should be 3 shot
again i say....

this game especially ctf is not just about shooting you have to have skills in other areas
i.e. binding weapons or switching to whether it be the wheel ...HOOK very importing

gotta multi task yall. i think mg should be gone completely i use it alot my fellow darths do too as well as many others but than again ammo is cut down
so im good

the purpose of limited ammo is to use ur other weapons many people who play use just 2 Max even just 1 outta of 7-8 that are there practice with other weapons
you'll do just find come tourny time my friends
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Skidm@rk
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well flag return can be cool. also i am thinking it is a must when the flag disappears and no one can find or return. i have heard that a few players have camped with flag for almost a whole map(usually around 10 mins) and did not cap when they had the chance!
that is not cool at all especially for players that have a limited time to play. of course this will be an adjustable feature if it becomes necessary to change it.
i prefer the 3 shot bfg myself, but i am open to change. like kakarott says it will increase skill for all. but the thing that i dont like is the vg_campdetect time. that is when you sit in a spot too long your rate of fire decreases. when you are on defense and protecting your flag the last thing you want is no rate of fire.
but lets give settings a try and see where it needs to be tweaked!




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camper_cootie
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Well the issue here, paganeo, wasn't with shooting your own flag. It's when you are shooting the other teams spawn points preventing them from even getting to spawn back on the map. It's a very shitty thing to do and It's unecessary. Like Levis said. You can get more points for shooting players across the map like Skid and I do. You 2 points for defense shots if you're on your own base.

These spawn campers just wanna get quick cheap points.

Anyway, I've said enough. This isn't the first time to start a topic about this.
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Skidm@rk
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we have had many complaints and our options are almost exhausted on this map. i have a suggestion but i dont know how it will work or if it can, but make spawn points totally RANDOM!!?? which means you can spawn on your base, or the other teams base? how would someone like to hook and spawn camp your own teamates???





Skidm@rk
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Redd Norvell
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O.K. I understand for the reasoning on slowing down the weapons, but now a new problem has insued. If you are hiding with the flag, or even guarding your flag, the weapon is so slow and with the ability to run fast, firing your weapon is no longer any use.

Also with all the new AimBot people, and with the fact of the slower fire ratio, they have en even more advantage.

As far as the space maps go, I notice the other night that there were 2 people spawn camping, and after calling them out, Skid kicked them. I beleive that is the right thing to do.

Dyn, I applaud the fact you are trying to make it a better place, but when you are hiding with the flag, it is nearly impossible to defend yourself now. Is there anything else that can be done to help solve this problem?

If there is anything I can do to help out, just ask.

WarMachine[BC]
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Levis
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If that's possible skiddy, do it. lol It's the best solution. I was playing in other maps today and that slow down rate of fire thing is really annoying.
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Dambastrd
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My two cents :mellow:

I am also kinda questioning rate of fire decrease and flag return time. In CTF there usually is someone staying behind at homebase to keep tresspassers (lol) out and the flag safe. If he is just waiting to kill varmints and keep the vermin out, he is penalized for doing his job.

In CTF, some of the best games are 1 to 1 ties, going into overtime and nobody on either team was able to successfully frag the flag carrier...........untill...gotcha. Of course, if it was because he was hiding, (most places are known by the majority of us) it takes away from the energy, but I gotta admit that he/she protected the flag which is what the game is all about.

I believe I also noticed that kickback was reduced along with BFG change, or is it just that with two balls there is less as a result? I agree with the three ball people
(one more and he takes a base ...lol...sorry). Two makes it harder to target because of the spread, and one doesnt give you "one-shot-kills". How bfg is two shot kills?

The admins and "Mighty Creator of all things Vogon" have always kept the fun in while trying to balance the game against annoyinng complications like spawn camping, aimbots, and other situations. They have also made changes from time to time to keep things different. Its what we have come to appreciate bout vogon. I remember the first time I played with the three plasmaball bfg. I stopped using the rockets as much....to this day.

Some changes stick around and others dont. The only way to find out what works is to install then and see what happens. I am going to see how things actually operate. I am sure that if things dont work that someone will bring back what does. :)

And an additional thanks for dyn for staying around when it seemed that Vogon was going to be sunset'd (lights out). And a additional thanks for the folks who helped keep it going through their donations.

Later :)
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=RS=
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Change it all back. am playing like a french soldier big bark no bite (shit)

bye the way how many french troops does it take to defend paris, they don`t know they have never tried ........we did and you lol
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camper_cootie
Mar 19 2008, 05:37 PM
Like Levis said. You can get more points for shooting players across the map like Skid and I do. You 2 points for defense shots if you're on your own base.

These spawn campers just wanna get quick cheap points.


Yeah sometimes i fire across the map too B)
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