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Topic Started: Aug 20 2017, 08:56 PM (22 Views)
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D1:

Talks about flavor. Asks for vote count. Comments on Nofo modkill - timing was great. Explains day's events to Spin.

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i really wish Patrick would say something, but at this point he looks like caught scum since hes not even attempting to defend himself.


(Nothing really of note. Didn't vote.)


D2:

Comments about Patrick and plurality. Has good vibes from Christian for not doing vote counts, says last time he was scum with him he used doing vote counts as a tactic to appear town.

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well things sure got interesting well i was afk. good job whoever killed Merc. looks like we have several good options for Dr to kill, along with a solid lynch candidate in Maddie thanks to Zersch.

for now i will ##lynch Maddie


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im not buying this Maddie bus driver thing, but i do think there is a bus driver.


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good teamwork today by Zersch and Rose. i agree with letting Shadow try and prove his role tonight so

##lynch Vlady

my only regret is that he almost defiantly wont get a chance to show up and say anything. in the sense that i would like the amusement.


(Not much of note, Maddie and Vlady were obvious lynches)


D3:

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good job role blocker(?) not much to do until Shadow shows up or someone claims to have received a note from him.

(probably in response to no one dying)

in response to Zersch asking "what's up buddy?"

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not much, playing Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones and checking on stuff online. have to train my Brushback players, but my team clinched the #1 seed and doesn't have any players at risk of being low on energy so i don't need to change the lineup today.


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Shadow not showing up is annoying. also as i said yesterday i have reason to believe there is a bus driver in play. Mittens has looked bad, but that's not unusual.


Links to Herm's reads from D2. Lynches Shadow. Commented on people thinking Brian is vig.

(Nothing stands out here either, Shadow obvious lynch. Maybe throwing shade on Herm but not sure if that was because Herm had Shadow on town list?)


D4:

Makes I am town post. Says Christian has been unusually quiet.

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well i missed a lot. i don't see Spin lying about his results, but then we get into WIFOM territory. at least Dadd's flip might explain the bus driver thing i thought was going on. i could for sure see Dr as mafia and killing already outed Maddie for town cred, far more likely then Spin lying but still not the best choice to go after. Jamie's claim seems to specific to be fake, especially as the mason part when Shaggy already flipped as something else. i still have an odd feeling about Christian but that's just vibes


anyone have a vote count? im totally lost on where the votes have been going other then Jamie.


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thinking about it some more and i could see Jamie having a real list as scum either with the role hes claiming or as a role cop.

##lynch Jamie


Vote count at the time he lynches Jamie:

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VOTE COUNT DAY 4

Jamie (4/12): TiB, Ahoda, Mittens, Primate, Ben
Christian (2/12): Vic, JJ
Spin (1/12): Mittens
Sock (1/12): Sock
Mittens (1/12): Sock, Jamie
JJ (0/12): Lamps
Ahoda (0/12): Timmah
Dadd (0/12): JJ, Spin, Curtis, Ahoda

in response to Farlig wondering about Jamie's claim saying there is a Strongman in the game. Thinks there is a good chance mafia has one.
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didn't we have 2 people flip BP on day 1 alone?



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2 role blocks last night? JoaT?


so i came into the day not feeling great about Christian, then after Jamie claimed and i thought about it i decided he was the lynch. well i still think Jamie is the right choice Christian hasn't done anything to look any better. for a minute when he voted Vic i started thinking they were scum mates and he was trying to get a new vote started.

(Looks good for Jamie vote. But, did put some shade on Christian a few hours before day ended but didn't switch from Jamie. Also it was Jamie 4, Christian 2 when he voted Jamie so may have thought Jamie was going down and didn't want to look bad not voting him.)


D5:

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i half wish i had left this for tomorrow to read. at some point Farlig was on someone's list and that made me remember hes playing. Timmah has also been quiet(or im just really tired and forgetting stuff)

people i feel good about

Zersch
Vic
Dr
JJ
Spin

people i feel not good about

Angi
Mittens
TIB
Sock

people i really want to hear more from

Lamps
Primate
Timmah
Farlig
David


in response to JJ asking him where Curtis is on his list:
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im not sure about him, i had him as town going into day 4 but something that didn't happen that day has me unsure.


and then in response to JJ asking: Curtis, Brian, Christian, Ben, David - you didn't comment on any of them.
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i just remembered that something i thought happened night 2 actually happened night 3, so i feel good about Curtis again. Brian is a town read(or 4th(?) party), idk why i didn't list him the first time. i had felt off about Christian going into day 4, and was leaning towards him until the way Jamie acted once people started voting him. Christians posts and claim today don't do him any favors, so i guess both Jamie and him could be scum. im undecided about Ben, he has some quality posts but there mostly stuff that could be said by scum as well as town so idk.

now i need to sleep so i don't fall asleep watching my Nephew tomorrow like i almost did today.


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disappointed not to see any new posts from Zersch. Christian's claim looks worse now then it did last night. if im reading Mittens right then im confused.

kind of have to wait on Zersch before we can do much since he might give Brian someone to shoot and a new flip will change things.


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so there are votes on Ben and Lamps? i have a minor town read on Ben and i don't remember much of what Lamps has done. oh yeah TIB has votes too? im on the fence with him. i have to head out for a few hours now but i will be back way before deadline.


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Lamps and Ben both do look bad for there votes. i think it comes down to Ben jumping from Jamie to Christian.

##lynch Ben


Vote count at the time of im317's Ben vote:
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VOTE COUNT DAY 5

Ben (3/10): JJ, Lamps, Vic
TiB (2/10): Sock, Primate
Lamps (1/10): Mittens
David (1/10): Spin
Angi (1/10): TiB
Mittens (0/10): Sock, Spin
Curtis (0/10): JJ
Spin (0/10): Mittens
Christian (0/10): DR, Curtis


(Ben vote looks good except he cast it when it was Ben 3, TIB 2, so he could have thought a Ben train was inevitable, but that's possibly a stretch. He did list Ben as a slight town read before this, though. Nothing else really except his reads seem "safe" maybe? Also, the post about waiting for Zersch before we can do anything seemed kind of lazy but idk if town lazy or scum lazy.)


D6:

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my thoughts? you people screwed up moving the lynch to Farlig. granted i didn't have a town read on him, but i didn't have a scum read either. i lean scum on Ben and Sock, trying to remember if there was something about either of Primate or TIB that more or less cleared them.


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oh yeah, i was thinking about it during the night phase, and i think David is probably one of the 2 people that could have verified Christian's claim.


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people i would be ok lynching today, in order from most to least ok

Sock
TIB
Timmah
Primate - no clue what you are claiming
Curtis
Angi
Lamps


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i went back over day 5, and i still think David has to be one of the people Christian was looking for. i base that on almost everyone else still alive showing up and saying they didn't believe Christian. i think the only other person who didn't post during that time that is still alive is Zersch, but Christian said he visited Zersch. so i wasn't able to figure out who the 3rd person was. i thought we might be able to at least probably clear someone if we could figure that out. i guess its someone that has been cleared another way? otherwise why haven't they spoken up to clear themselves?


in response to Spin saying he was fishing with above post:
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i was looking for people who believed his claim. as for what it would clear, given that Christian was town and we already had a 3 person SKer team, i would expect those other people to be town. i thought it was at least worth looking at.


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probably not at first. i was looking for people who changed there stance on him after he claimed there were people if he found could vouch for him. i know i checked to see if my character made sense for that.


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well Sock was at the top of my scum list to start the day and you guys are right hes claiming an oddly specific role that seems to only protect from a town role.

##lynch Sock


In response to Primate thinking im317 & Angi think Timmah is scum & vice versa:
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by opposite sides do you mean being on the Ben lynch 2 days in a row? or do you mean being a key swing vote on the Jamie lynch?


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oh. well kind of, hes on my list of people i would lynch today, but hes not my top scum read.


(obviously looks bad with Sock vote. Posts about David being able to verify Christian's claim made no sense.)
Edited by J.J., Aug 20 2017, 09:15 PM.
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Conclusions:

D1: Nothing really of note. Didn't vote.
D2: Not much of note, Maddie and Vlady were obvious lynches.
D3: Nothing stands out here either, Shadow obvious lynch. Maybe throwing shade on Herm but not sure if that was because Herm had Shadow on town list?
D4: Looks good for Jamie vote. But, did put some shade on Christian a few hours before day ended but didn't switch from Jamie. Also it was Jamie 4, Christian 2 when he voted Jamie so may have thought Jamie was going down and didn't want to look bad not voting him.
D5: Ben vote looks good except he cast it when it was Ben 3, TIB 2, so he could have thought a Ben train was inevitable, but that's possibly a stretch. He did list Ben as a slight town read before this, though. Nothing else really except his reads seem "safe" maybe? Also, the post about waiting for Zersch before we can do anything seemed kind of lazy but idk if town lazy or scum lazy.
D6: Obviously looks bad with Sock vote. Posts about DAvid being able to verify Christian's claim made no sense.
Edited by J.J., Aug 20 2017, 09:17 PM.
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Interactions/posts re Curtis or TIB:

D1-D3: - Nada

D4: - Nothing

D5:

Lists TIB on reads list under "people i feel not good about" - leaves Curtis off list. When asked (by JJ) he says about Curtis:

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im not sure about him, i had him as town going into day 4 but something that didn't happen that day has me unsure.


(probably talking about the pocket watch) Afterwards he says:

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i just remembered that something i thought happened night 2 actually happened night 3, so i feel good about Curtis again.


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so there are votes on Ben and Lamps? i have a minor town read on Ben and i don't remember much of what Lamps has done. oh yeah TIB has votes too? im on the fence with him. i have to head out for a few hours now but i will be back way before deadline.


D6:

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my thoughts? you people screwed up moving the lynch to Farlig. granted i didn't have a town read on him, but i didn't have a scum read either. i lean scum on Ben and Sock, trying to remember if there was something about either of Primate or TIB that more or less cleared them.


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people i would be ok lynching today, in order from most to least ok

Sock
TIB
Timmah
Primate - no clue what you are claiming
Curtis
Angi
Lamps


D7:

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locked in town: 317, Spin, JJ, Zersch
highly probably town: Drr, TIB, Mittens
neutral: Timmah, Primate, David
would shoot/lynch: Lamps, Angi, Curtis


to Curtis:

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given Mittens claim, if hes telling the truth then i think you are scum 95%.


Claims and talks about giving pocket watch to Curtis.


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Kill list to Primate:
Lamps
Curtis
Angi


D8: only post is to lynch Angi and yawn

D9:

Lynches David in first post.
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David as Godfather with TIB as his scum mate.


D10:

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Benjamin is good. also i think the scum are either TIB and Curtis or a super long con of TIB and Zersch.


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well i figure the godfather is either TIB or Curtis. then the last mafia would be either whichever of them its not, or if hes been playing a major long con i guess it could be Zersch. or do you think its Spin?


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or are there 2 mafia left and Curtis and someone else are framing me, i bet its him and TIB.


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on the other hand that would be an awful lot of long cons for 1 game. so maybe Zersch is the long con and its actually Curtis who is the godfather. his claim was incredibly convenient.


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im not sure with Curtis. i mean as far as i know the pocket watch was fine, but i thought the same about the lie detector. maybe im just a bad inventor?


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so some of you still think im scum, and i understand why. i do question why blocking Dadd makes Zersch town, i mean Dadd did turn out to be town after all. in fact didn't he flip as the person who could redirect roles? maybe im on to something with TIB setting up a fake hated claim and Jamie had scanned Dadd? a mafia jack blocking a possible re-director would make a lot of sense.


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oh yeah that makes sense. i never pictured him as godfather tbh. the more i think about it the more i think its TIB as godfather with Zersch as mafia jack.


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i do question why blocking Dadd makes Zersch town, i mean Dadd did turn out to be town after all. in fact didn't he flip as the person who could redirect roles? maybe im on to something with TIB setting up a fake hated claim and Jamie had scanned Dadd? a mafia jack blocking a possible re-director would make a lot of sense.


(D10 quotes are a bit out of order and he's accusing both Curtis & TIB seemingly equally before he changed tactics and voted Zersch after I think it seemed like im317 would be lynched. )
Edited by J.J., Aug 27 2017, 01:06 AM.
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